ORGANOCIDE...killed my plants?

Strangest shit.....considering ive used oranocide for years without problem. Until this year... approx 3 months ago i had a spidermite outbreak. I treated with a full strength organocide dip (3oz per gal).....first time i dipped instead of spraying thinking id cover more space....woody kush...grape ape..& GSC died right after about 2 days. (bearclawed & shriveled up). I chalked it up to me dipping instead of spraying. & moved on & re- aquired the kuts i had lost. Switched to grand evo, killed everything & life was good......until about 3 months later i caught powder mildew do to my half ass veg. Room. In attempt to avoid using eagle20, i figured i would SPRAY with organocide..........now heres the kicker...the same strains that i lost last time....are dying again this time. Same strains..... coincidence? Maybe..... am i using it wrong? Maybe....but i havent changed anything & this year is the only year ive had problems with it.
Is it possible these particular strains are sensitive to oil based sprays? Thats what im starting to think.
But this shits really got me thinking twice about oil based sprays......

Thoughts?

Cold pressed neem oil is your friend

I've been using it as my prime defense

for years

its organic, systemic, and an oil

Im bout to just can oil based sprays in general....

Eagle 20 in early veg for PM prevention...
& grand evo for pest control.

Im more so just venting....

Lactoserum, kombucha, or activated EM1 will handle your PM with zero downside.. Unless you spray with the lights on.. Then the light intensity will crisp your leaves. Neem and/or pepper tea for the mites

iHearAll said:

Lactoserum, kombucha, or activated EM1 will handle your PM with zero downside.. Unless you spray with the lights on.. Then the light intensity will crisp your leaves. Neem and/or pepper tea for the mites

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even better, get the 10K metal halide bulb, the one loaded with UV, it kept my grows free of PM for a yr and a half, i wasn't 100% sure it was the reason until i stopped using the bulb (had to cut down to a single bulb) annnnnd poof the last two grows have been a struggle with the PM.

and use predator mites for your spider mites, cleanest, most efficient, and the least amount of work too, not to mention you don't have chemicals on your shit, and you don't have a bunch of dead mites in your shit either.

Lacedwitgame said:

Im bout to just can oil based sprays in general....

Eagle 20 in early veg for PM prevention...
& grand evo for pest control.

Im more so just venting....

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get the 10k bulb, run it in an open air cooled hood, with the intake coming IN through the hood.
works like magic, i was shocked and amazed.
ran it for three grows, and the last two were in the wettest warmest tropical winter CA has had in my lifetime.
no pm, not even a speck.
UV is used in aquarium tanks, hospitals, and meat packing plants/butchers.
works like a charm.

greasemonkeymann said:

even better, get the 10K metal halide bulb, the one loaded with UV, it kept my grows free of PM for a yr and a half, i wasn't 100% sure it was the reason until i stopped using the bulb (had to cut down to a single bulb) annnnnd poof the last two grows have been a struggle with the PM.

and use predator mites for your spider mites, cleanest, most efficient, and the least amount of work too, not to mention you don't have chemicals on your shit, and you don't have a bunch of dead mites in your shit either.

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Im fortunate enough to have predators and oribated breeding in my soil bin.

iHearAll said:

Im fortunate enough to have predators and oribated breeding in my soil bin.

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oh helllll yea, the compost mites are actually damn good at eating allll sorts of insect larvae from the soil.
those lil guys are badass
sadly for me they don't do a whole lot of shit for the spider mites i get though, at least not in comparison to the specific mites i get from my buddy.
Those guys are badass burly lil mites, they can pick plants clean in nearly no time at all
but the fallacis species in particular, those guys are hungry and ready to go man, they are like rabid dogs

greasemonkeymann said:

oh helllll yea, the compost mites are actually damn good at eating allll sorts of insect larvae from the soil.
those lil guys are badass
sadly for me they don't do a whole lot of shit for the spider mites i get though, at least not in comparison to the specific mites i get from my buddy.
Those guys are badass burly lil mites, they can pick plants clean in nearly no time at all
but the fallacis species in particular, those guys are hungry and ready to go man, they are like rabid dogs

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I still get spider mites on my poppies. Damn drug addicts. But indoors the completion doesn't last in the spider mites favor. The soil mites are truly amazing to watch. I find myself having a seat with a magnifying lens for 15 minutes at a time

iHearAll said:

I still get spider mites on my poppies. Damn drug addicts. But indoors the completion doesn't last in the spider mites favor. The soil mites are truly amazing to watch. I find myself having a seat with a magnifying lens for 15 minutes at a time

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you are saying you get the spider mites INDOORS on your plants and you don't need to worry about that?!
if so, that's truly amazing, sincerely.
you attribute that to the soil mites?
man, my compost and wormbin are crawling with soil mites, and they don't seem to do a damn thing with the spider mites i get
maybe you have a special specie of the predator mites.
i know that the environment, temps and humidity are what influences the effectivity of the mites, but that would be badass man.

greasemonkeymann said:

you are saying you get the spider mites INDOORS on your plants and you don't need to worry about that?!
if so, that's truly amazing, sincerely.
you attribute that to the soil mites?
man, my compost and wormbin are crawling with soil mites, and they don't seem to do a damn thing with the spider mites i get
maybe you have a special specie of the predator mites.
i know that the environment, temps and humidity are what influences the effectivity of the mites, but that would be badass man.

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i still worry about it. but i dont ever see mite damage on adults. only the occasional solo cup plant gets attacked. i imagine i get a bigger variety of critters in large containers but when i use a little cup it may contain pathogenic mites. i notice that the soil mites and the predators dont crawl up the side of pots. because they cant? idk

As far as mites & pests go....this grand evo has been kickin ass...

iHearAll said:

i still worry about it. but i dont ever see mite damage on adults. only the occasional solo cup plant gets attacked. i imagine i get a bigger variety of critters in large containers but when i use a little cup it may contain pathogenic mites. i notice that the soil mites and the predators dont crawl up the side of pots. because they cant? idk

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hmm, well, i know for a fact that the predator ones do, those guys track down and kill every single mite on the plant, eggs too. so i know they can go wherever the reg mites go

These predator mites..californicus (or whatever)....say they need temps between 75- 88 degrees....could they hold up in a sacramento heatwave?