outdoor growing in the cold north

Mr.Marijuana420

Mr.Marijuana420

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NorthofEngland said:
Yeah
That's why, after I flip my lights to 12 and 12 (indoors) I have to turn on the taps in my bath - BECAUSE FLOWERING HAS 'SOMETHING TO DO WITH MOON CYCLES'.
And you say other people are stupid...?

Blue spectrum lighting will still instigate flowering if dropped to 12 hours - so that's another issue that you're wrong about.

Maybe you should try reading a few books?
Or just staying quiet to avoid exposing how totally imbecilic you are.

Post any supporting evidence that backs up your statements.
You cant do it because YOU ARE THE STUPID one.
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It all has to to with winter coming, the plants goal is to finish its reproductive cycle and make a next generation of seeds before winter. so ANY environmental changes occurring as winter approaches will further initiate flower. Have you ever grown outside? wtf do you mean turn the taps on you bath this makes no sense. Maybe you should do a little reading into basic growth of plants in general, it might broaden you horizons a little bit, then maybe some of this will make sense. Truth be told I don't think theres a person on these forums who thinks you have any idea of what your talking about because of your shear demeanor..

oh and on a side note, Ive had plants initiate flower dropping from 18 hrs, to 15. so there goes your "theory"

sorry to prove you wrong
 
elkamino

elkamino

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I sure don't understand why people bicker in these forums. I mean WTF, we're just farmers trying to get shit figured out right?:bigjoint:

Anyway, google a dude Dr. Gr33nThumb215 to see what's possible with light dep in a greenhouse. Light deprivation triggers early flowering and is accomplished by either moving plants inside or pulling a tarp- either manually or with a garage door opener or a commercial version. A 12-hr night will trigger the girls to flower whenever you start, and they're then able to finish earlier. Since they're finishing under a more-overhead sun they end up stronger/denser too. But heat and humidity can be tough to manage under a hot summer sun when you're hiding plants under a light-proof tarp. So its a brilliant idea but inevitably either expensive or time-consuming. For folks far from the equator though it might be worth it. Good luck.
 
Mr.Marijuana420

Mr.Marijuana420

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elkamino said:
I sure don't understand why people bicker in these forums. I mean WTF, we're just farmers trying to get shit figured out right?:bigjoint:

Anyway, google a dude Dr. Gr33nThumb215 to see what's possible with light dep in a greenhouse. Light deprivation triggers early flowering and is accomplished by either moving plants inside or pulling a tarp- either manually or with a garage door opener or a commercial version. A 12-hr night will trigger the girls to flower whenever you start, and they're then able to finish earlier. Since they're finishing under a more-overhead sun they end up stronger/denser too. But heat and humidity can be tough to manage under a hot summer sun when you're hiding plants under a light-proof tarp. So its a brilliant idea but inevitably either expensive or time-consuming. For folks far from the equator though it might be worth it. Good luck.
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Im not bickering I was just stating what I know, North of England was all uptight because I called him stupid. Well sorry. if u say plants NEED to go below 13 hrs to flower, then yes that is a stupid statement. U should of seen the pm he sent me afterward, he was ready to drop the gloves,
 
getawaymountain

getawaymountain

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i have several strains that start to bud at around 13 1/2 to 14 hr days in early july they start to bud naturally and are done early sept 8 weeks budding time
 
sssam420

sssam420

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think i'm gonna go with papaya and swiss cheese from nirvana apparently they finish flowering by at latest end of september and are highly mould resistant and suitable for the kind of climate i'm in and already have a couple master kush mothers although i know theyre not suitable and will probably get bud rot or frost damaged but hay ho i have them there so might aswell give it a shot lol . appreciate all the advice :peace:~sssam420
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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Keep clones under 24 hours of light they will flower if you throw them outside with 14 hours of available sun!
 
crazykiwi420

crazykiwi420

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NorthofEngland said:
Why?
Indica are more likely to have dense bud clusters - dense clusters are more prone to bud rot.

Indica's do not start flowering with more hours of sunlight per day than Sativas.

I see no particular reason why Indicas should be chosen over Sats, in this situation.
But I'd be interested to know your reasoning on the subject.
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I have to disagree that indicas don't start flowering earlier than sativas. Most indica dominant strains can flower under 14/10 and sativas 13:30/10:30, the more equatorial sativas under 13 hours.
Over here in NZ I had pure indicas flower 15th of jan and african sativas not even showing hairs in mid feb.

I do agree that it doesn't matter what genotype, there's plenty of fast flowering pure sativas; Ciskei from Tropical seeds is a 65 day landrace sativa.
 
rollingafatty

rollingafatty

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My recommended strains for northern areas where we get frost mid October. I have only used nirvana-shop strains. White Widow, Wonder Woman, Super Skunk, PPP, Citral, Papaya.. All finish 1-2weeks before frost if planted near trees that reduce light hours by half an hour in the morning and half an hour at night.
 
steelheadguy

steelheadguy

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Did you strategically place them by the trees to get this reduce light effect? or was it by chance? By how many weeks do you think this speeds things up?
 
rollingafatty

rollingafatty

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steelheadguy...If you are surrounded by 20-30ft of tight tree cover all around your site, it's just a natural effect. It will take roughly half an hour for the sun to get high enough to start penetrating the tree cover to actually illuminate your grow area. Same effect near dark. Gets dark roughly half a hour before the sun drops below the horizon.

My experience is that planting in heavy tree cover puts plants into flower 2-2.5weeks before the exact same strain in open pasture land. In Turn, finishing 2-2.5weeks sooner. Trees also protect from high winds and can protect from very light frosts in the fall. trees hold small amounts of ground heat.
 
Liddle

Liddle

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my suggestion is too get whatever strains are avaialable and every year do a seed crop. that why every year thy get a little more climatized. thats what alot of people do
 
josh b

josh b

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That is true but then again more sun is more bud,more roots more fruits ect !
Easy sativa, purple maroc,maroc, freezecheese89 are all good finishers for the uk so i guess these would finish that bit beter in the us ect
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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getawaymountain said:
i have several strains that start to bud at around 13 1/2 to 14 hr days in early july they start to bud naturally and are done early sept 8 weeks budding time
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I've heard tell that a few Iranian crosses will do that. Early Grizzly's too. Gotta love those girls that give it up early. Which strain(s) did you use to get your girls going so early?
 
getawaymountain

getawaymountain

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Rob Roy said:
I've heard tell that a few Iranian crosses will do that. Early Grizzly's too. Gotta love those girls that give it up early. Which strain(s) did you use to get your girls going so early?
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our stumbleweed ( iranian x seawarp) , seawarp, swamp skunk ( s.s. early bud x early wonder skunk ) sea dragon ( red dragon x seawarp) all start to bud in early july and are done by early to mid sept the other strains we use start in late july and are done by late sept
 
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