Outdoor to indoor transplant HELP!!! w/Pics

xvlilxjessivx

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PLEASE HELP IM A NEWBIE AND IM FREAKING OUT :wall:

It was getting too cold for the outdoor harvest so I decided to try to bring 2 of the immature plants inside. Bad idea? I transplanted them into Foxfire Farms Ocean Forest which was mixed with perlite. The girls are pretty big, a little over 5 ft each, and had a hard time standing on their own in their new #7 pots.

The girls are on a 12/12 light cycle under a 600 watt HPS bulb in a 4.5x4.5 room. There is both intake and exhaust and the room stays around 82f with the lights on and 77f with the lights off.

I had to dig them out of the soil outside, but do not think I damaged any roots, and I checked the tap root on each and it was fine. I watered after transplanting and everything was looking good last night.

It has been about 15 hours since the transplant and one of my plants looks NEAR DEAD! It is SUPER droopy and the leaves are turning on their sides. The leave color is normal, but I am starting to notice some dimpling on the leaves, no dryness though, just dimples between the veins. This plant is showing signs of flowering, but doesn't have any buds yet. Will I be able to fix it? How?

The other plant that had developed some decent size buds is starting to droop but not as bad. Is this one going to look like the other soon?

Is this stress? How do I fix it?????
 

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the widowman

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keep them well watered. they should be o.k. if you brought a good root ball in with the plants. also its not recommended to bring plants inside as you will bring pests in as well. keep well watered until they recover. hope it works out for you.
 

ThomJefferson

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they're shocked and i'm guessing you'll lose them. You can't do that to plants and expect them to survive -the roots cannot be disturbed during the flower process.
 

ThomJefferson

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If you back them from the light like way far off, you might get them to pull through. Ifthey recover, move them into the light a bit each day over 4 days..
 

xvlilxjessivx

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I only have about 5 more inches to move the lights up, would moving them to the sides of the tent so that they are not directly under the light make a difference? Right now the light is about 6" away
 

xvlilxjessivx

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So I have an update! The two girls are starting to pull through. However, they look A LOT better in the morning at the start of the light cycle then at night at the end. By the evening the leaves that were perky in the morning are drooping again. Any ideas on what is causing this or how to fix it?
 

the widowman

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So I have an update! The two girls are starting to pull through. However, they look A LOT better in the morning at the start of the light cycle then at night at the end. By the evening the leaves that were perky in the morning are drooping again. Any ideas on what is causing this or how to fix it?
cool temps make a plant droop. :bigjoint:
 

xvlilxjessivx

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thats the weird thing... their drooping under the lights. When the lights are on the room is at 78f to 80f max. During the dark period the room is around 68f to 70f. In the morning before the plants have gotten much light the leaves are all standing up and there is no drooping, but after the plants have been under the lights for awhile in the warmer temps, they start to droop. I know that humidity can cause droopiness... my humidity is around 45%. Is this too high?? They are in their flowering stage.
 

norcalkronic

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too much water will also make plants droop. make sure you allow your soil to dry out... in my hot region i water once a day. you probably shouldn't have to do more than that.

it could also still be related to stress. if so, it should stop within a week
 

xvlilxjessivx

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So far ive been watering once every 3 days. The soil is still semi moist until then. I've been waiting til my finger pushed all the way down is dry. Im a short girl with small hands, so a better gauge would probably be 2". I have them in Ocean Forest w/ Perlite added in at a ratio of about 1-5.

I think the problem IS stress. Can I give them anything to manage this stress or would that be too much for them after the outdoor-indoor transplant? I had them on a feeding schedule of cool bloom every other watering outside. Should I continue this now that they are inside? Or could this potentially stress them out more?
 

xvlilxjessivx

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a LOT better today. The plant that was already flowering is growing new bud sites and really filling back in from all of the leaves she lost. The other plant that looked like it had switched into flower but had no buds now has little bud sites with little white hairs growing out of them.

The plants were deffinatly shocked. I have been watering them every 3 days, and tomorrow I am going to give them their first dose of nutes since they've been indoors, it will be their 7th day and I am going to give them cool bloom. I will tell you how they handled it. I'm a little worried to overdose them or shock them by giving them the nutrients, but it looks like they are ready and need them.

Does anyone have any advice about this?
 

norcalkronic

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start with small doses. if you see yellow leaves at the bottom of your plant, gradually increase the dosage. if done perfectly you will have no yellow leaves. it is very important that you ph your water after your nutes are added. as the plant gets bigger it needs more and more nutes. during the first month of flower it was also need a lot of nutes. cut back on the nutes the next 2 weeks and use no nutes the last 2 weeks. ive found that my plants need a grow-bloom transition formula (an even npk) for the entire first month of flower. they use lots of nitrogen during these weeks.
 

norcalkronic

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Note: it is very difficult to have no yellow leaves so expect some but go for none. in order to do this you must learn your specific strains needs. i remember watching a video by greenhouse seeds where they claimed to never take or let a leaf fall off. they had perfectly green leaves throughout.*

*some leaves all the way at the bottom die due to lack of light this is not possible to reduce without additional light or a light mover. these leaves have symptoms that vary from nut def.
 

xvlilxjessivx

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Thought I'd give you guys some updated pics. Thanks a bunch norcalkronic for the nutrient info! I'm still working out all the kinks from the transplant, but I think they are looking a lot healthier! The leaves aren't as yellow as they appear in the pics either!
 

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growinman

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:confused: I 've many times brought plants inside in the fall to help them finish... I 've never had a problem like yours; I always had them in pots already. That leads me to believe me to think that it's for sure your roots and the stress, as I am sure you and everybody else already thinks.

There's a problem that I did have, however, and I will never bring one in the house again. As the widowman said, 'also its not recommended to bring plants inside as you will bring pests in as well.' I learned the very hard way about The Borg(spidermites) and I had them for almost a year before I finally shut everything down and moved my grow.....I dont care what you hear, if you get them bad ever they are almost immune to everything and all's you can do is "control" them----and when you finally give up on all else and use Avid or Floramite, do it by the book or the generation following the existing eggs will be immune(I KNOW). With any luck you dont do other growing in your house, just happen to have that tent available.........:blsmoke:

Sorry about the mite preaching-------if I hear "pests".........:o:shock::cuss::wall:

Something I do when I transplant up for stress and shock is use B-1 Root Stimulator with the first watering....... It's always worked for me but I cant say I 've heard anything positive here in the threads to back me up... And you may be to late for that to do any good at this point? The ffoc soil your using is the only soil I ever use. And it's already "hot" when it's freshly planted in, especially if they were in nothing similar outside.

I am willing to bet they'll pull through too if you stick to what your doing and give those roots a chance to accept thier new enviornment and keep your eyes on the watering as you are.

So my main point was about the pests......if you do other growing you'd better nuke that tent and everything around it before any use in the future----and if those are just going into flower you'll soon find out: you dont have the pests natural preditors in there......

Great Luck to you!!!:bigjoint:
 

xvlilxjessivx

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I'm a little worried about the pests now haha, but I do plan on completely cleaning the tent before any new plants go in there. I haven't seen any signs of any pests yet, I have neem oil ready... is that an ok preventitive measure, and if so does anyone know good dosing for flowering plants?
 
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