Outsider's perception of trump, if you already dint know

lawlrus

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One of the things I have noticed on this site is people choose 'sides' and will never admit when the perceived other 'side' has a good point. There never seems to be any agreement. I appreciate that you can cross that aisle and although you do not support the same ideas as I do you support the ability to freely discuss them.
That's what America is supposed to be all about, so it's sad that it's so rare it warrants your making this statement.

Good point . Your obviously not a trump supporter ,, This thread was concerning " outsider's ". Opinion ,, so you being American doesn't give you the right to decide what is said here,,, if you don't like political debate or in this case opinion, maybe you should steer off the political section of the stoner sites,, sorry but I'm honnest
Honest but not all that bright, apparently. I made a very general statement there, it didn't necessarily apply to this thread at all. But since you're making it a point to be the arbiter of discussion, maybe you should read my post again, specifically the part about how I welcome and encourage political discourse so long as it's respectful. I find conversations with people who have different views from me to be far more interesting than living in an echo chamber where everyone around me repeats what I already believe while ignoring all opposing viewpoints.
 

plantsinpants

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That's what America is supposed to be all about, so it's sad that it's so rare it warrants your making this statement.



Honest but not all that bright, apparently. I made a very general statement there, it didn't necessarily apply to this thread at all. But since you're making it a point to be the arbiter of discussion, maybe you should read my post again, specifically the part about how I welcome and encourage political discourse so long as it's respectful. I find conversations with people who have different views from me to be far more interesting than living in an echo chamber where everyone around me repeats what I already believe while ignoring all opposing viewpoints.
I might not be that bright ? But what I understand is that I don't give a fuck what curriculum you think this discussion should adhere to,,
 

lawlrus

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I might not be that bright ? But what I understand is that I don't give a fuck what curriculum you think this discussion should adhere to,,
Do you even know what point you're arguing here? Or are you just so full of misdirected teenage angst that you're angry at the world and taking that out on my totally innocuous and unrelated posts? Get a grip dude...I'm not even sure what you're so fired up about. What exactly did I say that offended you? The post you originally quoted said exactly what you repeated in your post, so what am I missing here?
 

plantsinpants

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I'm not offended that you came into. This " outsiders " thread and pretty much used your freedom of speach to say how you feel ,,, I did the same ,, I owe you nothing
 

Xiu

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Outsider here, and I'm still shocked to hear someone say they would vote for Trump. Said the same thing about Harper though and a bunch of assholes voted that guy in multiple times.

He seems like a reality tv star who is good at fear mongering.

No clue what else is going on in here. Just voicing an opinion.

Is this an American politics forum?
 

2ANONYMOUS

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poopy pants FACTS

Questioning the value of a college degree? Generations of parents have scrimped and sacrificed to fund their children’s tuitions, priming their progeny’s social and economic ascent. The nation has rewarded our troops with access to higher education; we have provided taxpayer-supported loans to college students; our finest schools have raised billions to provide scholarships for the gifted. A college degree sits aside motherhood and baseball in America’s iconography.

Which is why a new piece published by The Chronicle of Higher Education – “The Great College Degree Scam” — is alarming. According to a report by the Center for College Affordability and Productivity (CCAP), “approximately 6o percent of the increase in the number of college graduates over the last 16 years, from 1992 to 2008, worked in jobs that the Bureau of Labor Statistics considers relatively low skilled – occupations where many participants have only high school diplomas and often even less.” Researchers looked at these figures: In 1992, total college graduate employment was 28.9 million, with 5.1 million (17.5 percent) working in low-skill jobs. In 2008, the number of college grads employed increased to 49.35 million, of which 17.4 million (35 percent) were in fields not normally requiring a college degree.”

“In 1992, there were 119,000 waiters and waitresses that held
college degrees; by 2008, that number had soared to 318,000.”

They cite two examples. In 1992, there were 119,000 waiters and waitresses that held college degrees; by 2008, that number had soared to 318,000. The total number of such workers had expanded by more than 1 million over the same time frame; 20 percent of those new openings were filled by college grads. The same pattern emerges for cashiers; 20 percent of new cashier jobs have been taken by four-year graduates.

From this data, the authors conclude that pushing to increase our college graduate pool is misguided. Also, they say the results show that the productivity of our education system has declined precipitously. That is, what used to require 12 to 13 years of schooling now takes 18 years. Next, they say that we need more young people in the workforce to support our aging boomers; young people should not, in effect, waste their time going to college. Finally, they conclude that employers use a college education as a screen for hiring; the cost is minimal to them, but it’s large to society as a whole. Finally, they conclude that underemployment for college-educated youngsters is not a new and merely temporary problem.
 

UncleBuck

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In 1992, total college graduate employment was 28.9 million, with 5.1 million (17.5 percent) working in low-skill jobs. In 2008, the number of college grads employed increased to 49.35 million, of which 17.4 million (35 percent) were in fields not normally requiring a college degree.”
you claimed "most".

you just proved me correct and yourself a liar.
 

Fogdog

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Fog dog seriously what many do not know that its coming close to a correction year for everything
Trump is by far the best choice out of all of them and why ??? cause he is really one of us he is tired of the corruption, and knows what needs to be addressed
What strikes people odd is a person of his nature
I am sure the people of USA want change they thought they would get it from Obama but again he sold himself out
Trump will make change and bring back companies that left long ago he will lure other countries to invest in usa,, other then many selling off and writing off there loses
USA currency is not going to remain world currency much longer
and i think people want truth n justice instead of corruption that has run non stop in us policies

And fog to think NAZI was that bad have a look at history
1. Biggest genocide in history of the world (Native Americans)
2. Slavery
3. Horrible treatment, including murder, of many minorities, including, at times, Chinese, Japanese, Irish, German.
4. Suppression of labor unions and any kind of dissent, e.g., Bonus expedition, wobblies, Eugene Debs, and countless others.
5. Long-term policy of assassination, e.g., MLK, JFK, Lincoln.
6. Rule by non-productive parasites
7. King of environmental destruction--in the long run, that is the worst crime.
8. First to use and develop nuclear weapons and power--just who do you think started the Iranian nuclear program?
9. Absolute corruption, aka campaign contributions.
10. A heartless, thoroughly corrupt, medical establishment
11. A vast gulag of its own citizens, victims of its so-called justice system.

I could go on forever. Yes, if humanity survives the American empire, it will be remembered as the most reckless, heartless, vicious empire in history.
Ok, let me tick off the conspiracy theories you so humorously advocate:

Holocaust never happened
Moon landing faked
9/11 twin towers brought down by inside job, not jet crashes and jet fuel fire (who do you say is responsible?)
Free Mason/New World Order conspiracy to take over the world (or has already?)
JFK assassination was an evil plot by somebody in power? (who do you say is responsible?)
Lincoln assassination was evil plot by somebody in power (who do you say is responsible?)
MLK assassination was an evil plot by somebody in power (OK, you've got me in agreement there. I maintain it was a white supremecist faction in the south. What is your theory?)

You are warped dude. I'll just start with your being an apologist for the Nazi SS. Pause for laughter --Moving on from hysterical laughter --
One minute you write a diatribe about Putin and his domination of the US. Then you say the US is the evil empire dominating the world. Neither is true but if they were, both can't be true at the same time and that seems to be your position. Sorry, you just invalidated everything you've written or ever will write.

US Gulags, really? US prisons are bad but the Gulag under Stalin was matched in it's barbarity only by Hitlers Jewish Death Camps of the Holocaust. Oh yeah you selectively deny that one. Out of all the weird ass theories that require standing on ones head and playing records backwards, you deny reams of data and eyewitness accounts. Stunningly obtuse logic you have sir.

But I will say, you are one funny mixed up dude. Keep it up. Try shorter sentences though.
 
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Fogdog

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That’s right. No judge, no jury, no conviction; just straight to execution. America has set another precedent in their tyrannical march toward empire when they openly assassinated an American citizen and government patsy, Anwar al-Awlaki, and his teenage son on the suspicion of terrorism. Paul Craig Roberts laments “Now the US government not only can seize a US citizen and confine him in prison for the rest of his life without ever presenting evidence and obtaining a conviction, but also can have him shot down in the street or blown up by a drone.” Isn’t this the reason America claims to be knocking off dictators around the world — the deliberate killing of their own citizens?

But Awlaki was a bad apple because the intelligence community said so. What’s most telling that America will continue this wickedness is that almost every US lawmaker turned a blind eye to the grotesque violation of Constitutional rights. Only Ron Paul said that assassinating an American citizen without charges is nothing less than an “impeachable offense”. Too bad most of the country cheered the Awlaki killing as a “victory” in the war on terror, indicating that it is now an acceptable tactic. Americans beware: you may be moved from a secret watch list to a secret kill list in this brutal empire.
What about drone wars >>??? There poopy pants

Unprovoked wars without authorization, accountability, or independent oversight only seem to be escalating; and with little resistance. The US Congress no longer votes to “declare war”. They simply give the Commander in Chief broad “authorization” to use force against specific nations. However, even that is not broad enough in the rapid pursuit of empire. Now, joystick warriors directed by the CIA and Pentagon have targeted at least three countries with “unauthorized” military strikes; Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia. Even worse, they waged a full-scale war for regime change and resource plundering in Libya without any authority inside the United States. Under the NATO flag, which is 75% funded by the U.S., they flew over9200 strike sorties in Libya to illegally topple Gaddafi. Drunk with success, the bloodthirsty empire marches on to their next preemptive targets, Syria and Iran. Quick morality check: unprovoked killing and stealing as a first resort is still wrong, right?
You never answered my question. Your Trump, the guy you pound the drum for, is he going to stop all the stuff you go on about in the above post?
 

ttystikk

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How can anyone support that shit sipper?
Well thanks for solving a minor mystery; I'd heard that there was a nationwide spike in hospital admissions of people claiming to have been sent back from the future to kill Donald Drumpf(!). Unintended consequences, but still funny!
 

Fogdog

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How can anyone support that shit sipper?
Dam funny that. Thanks. Like ttystikk, I had no idea where drumpf came from but now I know yet one more worthless fact that pleases me.

I have no idea why anybody supports him. We have a few floating around here that do. @nitro harley for one but don't expect his reply to make sense.

Loved the line from Trump's son regarding the value of his name:
I don't know if it brings stability or viability but I imagine certain people feel that.
 

testiclees

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Got to love the College grad in debt and flipping burgers right lol what ever poopy pants but one must ask do you need a degree to flip burgers only in usa you do
not only does USA screw everyone they even screw there own youth

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303618/Massachusetts-McDonalds-demands-bachelors-degree-years-experience-cashiers-job.html
All the imbeciles with feces on their breath fancy the phrase "poopy pants". Idiots say the silliest shit.
 

testiclees

Well-Known Member
Ok, let me tick off the conspiracy theories you so humorously advocate:

Holocaust never happened
Moon landing faked
9/11 twin towers brought down by inside job, not jet crashes and jet fuel fire (who do you say is responsible?)
Free Mason/New World Order conspiracy to take over the world (or has already?)
JFK assassination was an evil plot by somebody in power? (who do you say is responsible?)
Lincoln assassination was evil plot by somebody in power (who do you say is responsible?)
MLK assassination was an evil plot by somebody in power (OK, you've got me in agreement there. I maintain it was a white supremecist faction in the south. What is your theory?)

You are warped dude. I'll just start with your being an apologist for the Nazi SS. Pause for laughter --Moving on from hysterical laughter --
One minute you write a diatribe about Putin and his domination of the US. Then you say the US is the evil empire dominating the world. Neither is true but if they were, there can't be both at the same time and that seems to be your position. Sorry, you just invalidated everything you've written or ever will write.

US Gulags, really? US prisons are bad but the Gulag under Stalin was matched in it's barbarity only by Hitlers Jewish Death Camps of the Holocaust. Oh yeah you selectively deny that one. Out of all the weird ass theories that require standing on ones head and playing records backwards, you deny reams of data and eyewitness accounts. Stunningly obtuse logic you have sir.

But I will say, you are one funny mixed up dude. Keep it up. Try shorter sentences though.
@2ANONYMOUS is the most creepily freakish toxic discharge ive crossed paths with on riu.
 

Fogdog

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@2ANONYMOUS is the most creepily freakish toxic discharge ive crossed paths with on riu.
I'm collecting a laundry list of his conspiracy theories. It's laughable yet creepy I'll agree. Weirdos like 2A believe the most outlandish conspiracy theories based on the most flimsy narrative yet deny something that is well documented.

Witness: New World Order plot to dominate the world. Uh well because he says so I guess.
vs
Holocaust never happened in spite of reams of documentation, physical evidence and eyewitness accounts. Nope faked all of it.

Best line to describe these serial conspiracy theorists: “People low in trust of others are likely to believe that others are colluding against them,”
from: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/11/conspiracy_theory_psychology_people_who_claim_to_know_the_truth_about_jfk.html

Oh well, its reassuring that he supports Trump and not my guy.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I'm collecting a laundry list of his conspiracy theories. It's laughable yet creepy I'll agree. Weirdos like 2A believe the most outlandish conspiracy theories based on the most flimsy narrative yet deny something that is well documented.

Witness: New World Order plot to dominate the world. Uh well because he says so I guess.
vs
Holocaust never happened in spite of reams of documentation, physical evidence and eyewitness accounts. Nope faked all of it.

Best line to describe these serial conspiracy theorists: “People low in trust of others are likely to believe that others are colluding against them,”
from: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/11/conspiracy_theory_psychology_people_who_claim_to_know_the_truth_about_jfk.html

Oh well, its reassuring that he supports Trump and not my guy.
Good article.
 

lawlrus

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I'm not offended that you came into. This " outsiders " thread and pretty much used your freedom of speach to say how you feel ,,, I did the same ,, I owe you nothing
....okay, glad we're on the same page

2ANONYMOUS, good lord dude, have you considered upping the meds?
 
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