You are stupid. Did you even read my posts. I bet you failed reading comprehension really badly. This is not the place to ask sideways questions about your inbred status from your maternal uncle Dick and mommy
"Many people have said over cloning will result in a reduced potency. I was one of the few that said it is impossible, that the biology shows if this did happen, it would be 1 in many million."
This is the very first sentence you made.
"The trouble is that many people including some growers I know personally have claimed potency loss. I even tried some from a friend who called me over just to prove his point. Indeed he was right."
Your second sentence literally says potency loss is correct.
"Those folks like myself who take smaller clones and do not use sterilizers never experienced potency loss and vice versa."
Vice Versa meaning those who do take larger clones will experience potency loss.
You're specifically talking about potency loss and how you learned about chimeras and then continue onto cloning and etc, etc.
I've read all your posts. I do read, I know how to read.
What you don't know how to do is back up what you're saying with actual evidence. Not "I smoked with a friend."
No. That isn't evidence.
If what you're suggesting is that a chimera can have an effect on potency then you are right but I already stated that previously.
"These chimeras arise by spontaneous or induced mutation of a nuclear gene to a dominant or recessive allele. As a rule one character is affected at a time in the leaf, flower, fruit, or other parts. This seems to be what you're referring to as a mutation. It does say it can affect one character but is this necessarily always going to be a loss in potency? Couldn't this chimerism result in an increase in potency potentially?"
Taken straight from my first reply.
You're just changing your claim to not look stupid. Through your grape information and further discussion of chimera you come to the conclusion that not excessive cloning but clone size and sterelizers result in chimeras which result in loss of potency...but you still haven't actually shown that clone size, sterelizers, chimeras, or any of these things affect potency. You keep beating around the bush and explaining all the terms to me like I'm some sort of an idiot or something.
I totally understand what you're saying and I even fucking agree with you but you won't answer my original question to your original assertion and conclusion that by taking smaller cuttings you're avoiding potency loss...which you haven't proven. The chimeras can literally result in a billion different genetic make ups which may or may not affect potency, you said that yourself in this very thread.
So, besides smoking with your friends where is the proof that any of this leads to lowered potency? Stop avoiding the question and just answer. If you don't know or your claim isn't that it lowers potency then admit you don't know or that your OP is wrong. If you DO KNOW please share with me the emperical evidence that proves this. A simple lab test on a chimera clone compared to a non-chimera from the same mother would clear this up right away but I doubt you have that.