Overwatering in DWC?

JohnDoeTho said:

What's the idea here? I'm actually in the proccess of insulating my buckets.

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Insulates them from the floor! Hot in summer and cold in winter. It helps you get less root zone variation in temps..

JohnDoeTho said:

Well supposedly each of those lights is compareable to a 600w hps...... we will see..... I'll take 16 a piece instead of 12 total hehe.

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They've been saying that for a decade, I have yet to see a LED panel compete with the comparable HID.

They do make awesome veg lights though.

Dr. Who said:

Insulates them from the floor! Hot in summer and cold in winter. It helps you get less root zone variation in temps..

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That depends, most floors are cooler than the ambient temp.

There is a guy on here that actually used the cold flooring to keep his temps down, passively.

Dr. Who said:

Insulates them from the floor! Hot in summer and cold in winter. It helps you get less root zone variation in temps..

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Ooooo I gotcha, well I'm in the basement the floor stays cool year round. But the room i built is fully insulated and raised up off the cement floor.

Enigma said:

That depends, most floors are cooler than the ambient temp.

There is a guy on here that actually used the cold flooring to keep his temps down, passively.

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I actually wish I didn't raise the floor and I was on the cement.....

Enigma said:

They've been saying that for a decade, I have yet to see a LED panel compete with the comparable HID.

They do make awesome veg lights though.

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I'm hoping to make you and my local dimwit buddy(not trying to compare you two in anyway) a believer.....the fact that I've already seen the bud sites swell is promising.

At 800$ it seems pricy, but near full output until it dies and a minimum 5 year life expectancy coupled with energy cost reduction it actually ends up being cheaper in long run if it performs

I will say it seems they have come a long ways in the technology over the last couple years. When I'm trimming I can feel the heat and intensity on my head and neck, very compareable to my buddy's 600w HPS. Through all my reading my guess is a slight hit to yield while a good boost in flavor and potency with getting proper ratio of spectrum.

I've already experienced burning from too
Much lumen at 9 inches in distance.

Edit: had to be burning from too
Much light and not heat as I have a laser gun that measures heat at the surface of where ever you pointed and it was never above 80.

Even at 15 I get serious canoeing, so far it's seemed best about 20" away, and during veg I noticed if I brought it about 4 feet away it seemed to add a millimeter of node spacing lol

DAMN! MAN 1 millimeter!! better redo the room rip that shit down right away rebuild.

Hehe, I actually wanted more spacing. I just started flowering and I can tell they are going to have no problem filling the stalk. I never got much of a stretch period that I could tell, maybe I ruined it in the midst of my o2 level problem.

My plants are only 24 inch tall.... but I think we might set a record....

My buddy from same mother is a solid 4 foot tall, but not tight noding like mine, and not even any bud on bottom half. So we will see!

plants that are very bushy many heads can sometimes hardly stretch even if strain prone to at flower first weeks, due to same energy for 1-4 heads, or to 35 heads energy distribution, so each head grow llittle bit take power of what less head would grow tall, short bushy tight node better than tall big internode, for me anyway, it's ok.

With shorter plant energy is not expended as much by the plant to transport liiquid up through itself against gravity compared to tall plant. Shorter plant have that much more energy to put to other things, like buds.

This my belief, I no read it.

Johnei said:

With shorter plant energy is not expended as much by the plant to transport liiquid up through itself against gravity compared to tall plant. Shorter plant have that much more energy to put to other things, like buds.

This my belief, I no read it.

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Well if you have the setup to utilize it could be beneficial. Ad in maybe add some mid level
Lighting. And there's a happy medium, I would think you want a good root structure to absorb water and nutrient and a thick enough stalk to carry it all. So in my case I am hung in both category's. Where as my buddy although double the length has about half the stock diameter and a 1/4 of the root structure, at least as of 2 weeks ago.

Johnei said:

With shorter plant energy is not expended as much by the plant to transport liiquid up through itself against gravity compared to tall plant. Shorter plant have that much more energy to put to other things, like buds.

This my belief, I no read it.

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I would agree, I'm thinking based on your lighting and how far it can penetrate is how long you would want your set of internodes your planning on flowering.

Bigger fatter trunk always make more junk.

Enigma said:

That depends, most floors are cooler than the ambient temp.

There is a guy on here that actually used the cold flooring to keep his temps down, passively.

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It depends on where you are located in the continental US too.
So that's a big factor.