Pam McColl

Medipuffs

Well-Known Member
This new article states somebody is threatening her; that is unfortunate and is not good for any debate. She has an extremist point of view and doesn't accept listening to reason or empirical evidence, regardless of these facts her personal safety should never be in question. It is a shame this debate has come to a point where this is a tangible aspect of the conversation.

"I find that upsetting. I'm not going to be intimidated," she said. "I wish this country could just calm down and discuss this situation calmly and find a way to move forward." [what a fucking hypocrite]

Canadians and parents do not want to see marijuana promoted to their kids and storefronts are a form of advertising, said McColl, whose group wants to protect the rights of children to live in a drug-free world.[sick Canadians shouldn't have to die for your personal religious beliefs to be taken to override the charter of rights and freedoms. Educate your children and foster an environment where they trust your actions and teachings so that you have the means to empower your child to live in the world as you want them to see it, it is naive to believe you can shift everyone's opinion to align with your own]

"We don't want to have drugs pushed on anyone and we're very, very cautious of claims made of benefit," she said. [compassion clubs are for sick Canadians, retail marijuana is a completely different beast but sick people who want relief and now. I am living, breathing proof that cannabis is a health product when respected and utilized for its beneficial properties]

"This is the problem with medical marijuana — the claims some people are making about it with no evidence in science."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/shop-owner-disguised-drug-trafficking-business-as-medical-marijuana-shop-police-1.3179910

This is akin to a political topic you have no personal relationship with but you have a moral issue with so you hop on your soap box and shout until your blue in the face hoping to convert people to your stance.

Unfortunately stupidity is contagious, therefore she needs to be debated and instructed time and again until she either realizes that we are not going away or that she can spend her time and energy promoting a cause that will gain traction with the majority of Canadians. In regards to medical cannabis, the horse has already left the barn
 

Mr.Head

Well-Known Member
I'm so tired of the "I was threatened with violence" crowd that uses this to further their personal goals. Where are the police? Where are the charges? Where is the abuser!

They are never caught, yet this boso gets more air time because she was threatened? Seems fair.

The best thing to do is to not engage people with fundamentalist beliefs that aren't open for debate. The best thing is to ignore them, or say things like "ahhh little Pammy is at it again" like they are children. The message isn't going to hold water if the person delivering it is a laughing stalk.

Public debates do nothing in these situations people that know better already think she's an idiot. She stands more a chance to convince idiots of her point of view rather then change her own. See Bill Nye debating that crazy southern dip stick about jesus riding dinosaurs. That did nothing for Bill or his cause, he debated an idiot. People already knew was an idiot. Bill lent credibility by debating that idiot.

To debate an argument so stupid is to say that argument is worth debating. Would a public debate on flying pigs be good? Most people know pigs don't fly, but I bet some smooth talker could convince a few idiots that pigs do fly without any evidence. If given enough air time and wearing a fancy enough suit.
 

Medipuffs

Well-Known Member
you make a valid point, debating is futile if it has no ability to further your position. therefore, time is really the only catalyst to a palatable solution. let her promote her position to the point it produces negative consequences to her goals. the unfortunate thing is, there are a lot of mentally susceptible voters out there and not qualifying the voice of insanity with one of reason can lead to insensible folks being led to dishonest conclusions.
 
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