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captainmorgan

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Spain did a study that shows only about 5% of their population has been infected, seen similar numbers for the USA. When they open everything up the numbers are going to explode because it's already spread everywhere now. The whole country will become a virus hot spot.
 

Fogdog

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Spain did a study that shows only about 5% of their population has been infected, seen similar numbers for the USA. When they open everything up the numbers are going to explode because it's already spread everywhere now. The whole country will become a virus hot spot.
It could be that we aren't seeing rises right now because coronavirus isn't as active during summer months. Agree with you that there is nothing in place to stop resurgence in infections some time soon.

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schuylaar

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It could be that we aren't seeing rises right now because coronavirus isn't as active during summer months. Agree with you that there is nothing in place to stop resurgence in infections some time soon.

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what we've done is, flatten the curve of the first peak only through mitigation. they need to test and trace; this isn't 1918.
 

Fogdog

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what we've done is, flatten the curve of the first peak only through mitigation. they need to test and trace; this isn't 1918.
I agree but I've given up on this as a national strategy. It's not going to happen other than in some states. Not unless Trump dies from it and a terrified Pence give the reins to a credible expert on the subject.
 

schuylaar

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I agree but I've given up on this as a national strategy. It's not going to happen other than in some states. Not unless Trump dies from it and a terrified Pence give the reins to a credible expert on the subject.
when i was a kid, i thought the worse thing that could happen would be to have someone like archie bunker in charge.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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One teflon Don down and another one to go, this guy should scare Donald! This guy should also make Bill Barr sweat.
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Former federal judge who brought down the 'Teflon Don' steps into Flynn case

New York (CNN)Nearly three decades ago, John Gleeson made his name by successfully prosecuting the man known as "The Teflon Don."

Now he finds himself mixed up in a case tied to the modern-day inheritor of that nickname.
On Wednesday, Gleeson became the latest participant in the turbulent criminal case against President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, after the federal judge overseeing the case appointed Gleeson to oppose the Justice Department's effort to drop it.

An esteemed former federal judge himself, Gleeson, 66, entered the discourse around the Flynn case on Monday, when he and two other former Justice Department officials wrote in The Washington Post that among the steps US District Judge Emmet Sullivan could take would be to "appoint an independent attorney to act as a 'friend of the court,' ensuring a full, adversarial inquiry."
Saying the case "reeks of improper political influence," they wrote that "if prosecutors attempt to dismiss a well-founded prosecution for impermissible or corrupt reasons, the people would be ill-served if a court blindly approved their dismissal request. The independence of the court protects us all when executive-branch decisions smack of impropriety; it also protects the judiciary itself from becoming a party to corruption."
Now, according to Sullivan's order, Gleeson will articulate an argument against the Department of Justice's effort to end the prosecution and will weigh whether Flynn should face a perjury charge for contradictory statements he has given the court.
Former colleagues, contemporaries and friends of Gleeson's -- even some who have expressed sympathy for Flynn's position -- said they expect Gleeson's rigor, intellect and experience to be a welcome counterweight to the tumult of the case so far.
Through a spokesman at the law firm where he is a partner, Debevoise & Plimpton, Gleeson declined to comment for this story.
Known for his boyish looks, penchant for cardigans and sweater vests, and habit of eating tuna fish straight from a can for lunch even as a judge, Gleeson rose to prominence as a federal prosecutor in the Brooklyn US attorney's office in the early 1990s, when he won a murder and racketeering trial against Gambino crime boss John Gotti, known as "The Teflon Don."
"I have never been exposed to someone as prepared, as fair, as impartial, as unbiased and as precise in his language as John Gleeson," said James Gagliano, a retired FBI agent and a CNN law enforcement analyst who worked as an agent on the Gotti case when it went to trial. "John could spell a death knell for a case just in three or four words."
Gagliano was 26 years old when he was assigned to the Gotti case, but "John never treated me like a junior agent. He treated me as an equal and as a contemporary."
Though Gagliano has said he believes Flynn has been mistreated by law enforcement, he said: "When it comes to John Gleeson, there is no one that is going to question his credentials."
In the Brooklyn prosecutors' office, Gleeson served as chief of its organized crime section and chief of its criminal division, during which time he became close with a colleague, Andrew Weissmann, who would go on to become a top prosecutor in special counsel Robert Mueller's office.
Gleeson and Weissmann remain friends, according to a person who knows the men. Weissmann declined to comment.
In 1994, at the age of 41, Gleeson became one of the youngest federal judges after being nominated by President Bill Clinton. When Gleeson first arrived on the bench, some of his former colleagues from the Brooklyn US attorney's office anticipated he might be lenient when sentencing their cooperating witnesses.
Just before his appointment, Gleeson had won an extraordinary prison term for Salvatore Gravano, the Brooklyn mobster also known as "Sammy the Bull," who had been a star witness in the Gotti case.
Gravano, who admitted in testimony to participating in 19 murders, was sentenced to five years after Gleeson argued he had "rendered extraordinary, unprecedented, historic assistance to the government."
In his new role, however, Gleeson was no more forgiving than his black-robed colleagues.
"He wasn't influenced by the fact that as a prosecutor he advocated for leniency for important cooperators. He realized that as a judge he would have to be neutral and form a fact-based and precedent-based view," said Jodi Avergun, a white-collar defense attorney at the law firm Cadwalader, Wickersham and Taft who worked with and later tried cases before Gleeson.
Later in his career, Gleeson would go on to speak out about what he described as the "excessive severity" of the federal criminal justice system, and he became an advocate for alternatives to incarceration.
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DIY-HP-LED

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So, the deaths were all in the plans.

Donald doesn't know if his arsehole is punched or bored, much less what a plan is and doesn't have the vaguest idea of how to carry one out, or the even the ability.

Government by sociopath, you're talking about a guy who bankrupted a casino, lost his family fortune, went 9 billion in debt, screwed everybody he came into contact with and corrupted the rest. The best predictor of future behavior is past performance, yer screwed.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Spain did a study that shows only about 5% of their population has been infected, seen similar numbers for the USA. When they open everything up the numbers are going to explode because it's already spread everywhere now. The whole country will become a virus hot spot.
The whole country IS a virus hotspot and the red states who open stupidly with no testing will catch on fire, Darwinian selection will be a factor moving forward, Trumpers don't like no stinkin masks, IT AIN'T MANLY!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This is about election cheating in 2020 as well as revenge and retaliation, Donald wants to smooth the way for Mike Pompeo's senate run, he has a problem about breaking the law. Donald has fired an awful lot of IG's to hide his mismanagement and crimes. He not done firing yet either, Fauci and others in the public health sphere are all on the line as Donald digs in.
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Trump ousts State Department watchdog
Democrats blasted the Friday-night dismissal as an assault on the rule of law.

President Donald Trump has removed State Department Inspector General Steve Linick and replaced him with an ally of Vice President Mike Pence — the latest in a series of moves against independent government watchdogs in recent months.

Trump informed Congress of his intent to oust Linick, a Justice Department veteran appointed to the role in 2013 by then President Barack Obama, in a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Friday night.

The president said he "no longer" had the "fullest confidence" in Linick and promised to send the Senate a nominee "who has my confidence and who meets the appropriate qualifications." The executive branch is required to notify Congress 30 days ahead of time if it intends to remove an inspector general.


Trump's move infuriated Democrats who say he's trying to circumvent oversight of his administration, undermining the ability of other branches to hold him accountable. The move follows Trump's anger at being impeached, but it also comes as the White House struggles to combat the coronavirus pandemic just months before the presidential election.

“The president’s late-night, weekend firing of the State Department inspector general has accelerated his dangerous pattern of retaliation against the patriotic public servants charged with conducting oversight on behalf of the American people," Pelosi said in an statement. "Inspector General Linick was punished for honorably performing his duty to protect the Constitution and our national security, as required by the law and by his oath."
Rep. Eliot L. Engel (D-N.Y.), chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, called Linick's dismissal an "outrageous act of a president trying to protect one of his most loyal supporters, the secretary of State, from accountability."

Engel claimed: "I have learned that the Office of the Inspector General had opened an investigation into Secretary Pompeo. Mr. Linick’s firing amid such a probe strongly suggests that this is an unlawful act of retaliation."

A Democratic congressional aide said Linick had launched an investigation into Pompeo’s alleged misuse of a political appointee to perform personal tasks for him and Mrs. Pompeo. The State Department did not respond to an inquiry about the allegation.
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DIY-HP-LED

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Another example of red state political suicide, another Wisconsin election in November, people in masks lined up at few polling stations risking their lives to vote Trump out. Anger wins the day in such situations, it overrides fear, a mother will fight a bear to protect her child, fear is forgotten and the focus narrows to the objective, protect the child. People will vote to not just protect themselves, but their families as well, they will fight to the death for the same reason.
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Texas Supreme Court halts expansion of mail-in voting during pandemic

The Texas Supreme Court on Friday halted the expansion of mail-in voting in the state during the coronavirus pandemic.

The court issued the stay after Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) asked the Lone Star State's top court to take action in a letter earlier this week.

The state Supreme Court has set oral arguments in the case for Wednesday.

Democrats and voting rights advocates have pushed for mail-in voting to be expanded during the pandemic, while Paxton has repeatedly argued that large-scale mail-in voting will lead to rampant voter fraud and corruption.

"Among the State’s highest and most profound interests is protecting the integrity of its elections," Paxton wrote Wednesday. "To advance that interest, the Texas Legislature requires almost every voter to vote by personal appearance at a designated polling place, where trained poll workers confirm the voter’s identity before issuing him a ballot."

On Thursday, the 14th Court of Appeals of Texas upheld a previous ruling by a Texas state judge that deemed mail-in voting acceptable during the pandemic.

The Texas Supreme Court has not weighed in on the merits of the case, but its decision Friday means the initial ruling will be blocked until an appeal for that case moves forward.
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schuylaar

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this is bad news..like very bad- now try to ignore. Trumpy*, old chap, i do believe the ball in in your court.


The U.S. Navy says 13 sailors from the USS Theodore Roosevelt who had apparently recovered from the coronavirus and had received negative test results have now tested positive for a second time.

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schuylaar

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Another example of red state political suicide, another Wisconsin election in November, people in masks lined up at few polling stations risking their lives to vote Trump out. Anger wins the day in such situations, it overrides fear, a mother will fight a bear to protect her child, fear is forgotten and the focus narrows to the objective, protect the child. People will vote to not just protect themselves, but their families as well, they will fight to the death for the same reason.
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Texas Supreme Court halts expansion of mail-in voting during pandemic

The Texas Supreme Court on Friday halted the expansion of mail-in voting in the state during the coronavirus pandemic.

The court issued the stay after Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) asked the Lone Star State's top court to take action in a letter earlier this week.

The state Supreme Court has set oral arguments in the case for Wednesday.

Democrats and voting rights advocates have pushed for mail-in voting to be expanded during the pandemic, while Paxton has repeatedly argued that large-scale mail-in voting will lead to rampant voter fraud and corruption.

"Among the State’s highest and most profound interests is protecting the integrity of its elections," Paxton wrote Wednesday. "To advance that interest, the Texas Legislature requires almost every voter to vote by personal appearance at a designated polling place, where trained poll workers confirm the voter’s identity before issuing him a ballot."

On Thursday, the 14th Court of Appeals of Texas upheld a previous ruling by a Texas state judge that deemed mail-in voting acceptable during the pandemic.

The Texas Supreme Court has not weighed in on the merits of the case, but its decision Friday means the initial ruling will be blocked until an appeal for that case moves forward.
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can't anyone request a mail vote? during normal times seniors do it all the time at least in florida..
 

Fogdog

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this is bad news..like very bad- now try to ignore. Trumpy*, old chap, i do believe the ball in in your court.


The U.S. Navy says 13 sailors from the USS Theodore Roosevelt who had apparently recovered from the coronavirus and had received negative test results have now tested positive for a second time.

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"Testing is overrated"
 
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