Pandemic 2020

Joe: I believe in U.S. exceptionalism; that’s why this crisis hard to accept | Morning Joe | MSNBC

The Russian response to the pandemic has been as bad as the American one, hard to know how many dead because you can't trust anything that come out of the place. It's safe to say the Russians are gonna get hammered by this too.

Gottlieb on cruises and the idea of herd immunity

Former FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb comments on cruises and herd immunity in the age of the coronavirus pandemic.

Here is your next crises, China is gonna move on Hong Kong and wipe out their democracy there, Hong Kong is a major global financial hub because of the legal system used there, a left over from the British. Xi sees his chance with a weak American president and the country on its knees because of his incompetent response the covid -19, to take over Hong Kong militarily. We have a lot of Chinese Canadians who were hedging their bets with properties in Canada, but air travel is banned and they can't get out. Canada should help them, Hong Kong has one of the lowest infection rates in the world, so charter flights back should be no problem along with isolation protocols.

China is gonna take over Hong Kong soon and if it embarasses Trump enough, there could be trouble, America is very vulnerable and not ready to take on China right now, not with Trump. America owes trillions to China and a lot of PPE comes from there as do the feed stocks and chemicals for most drugs, including those that might be used to treat covid-19. China has got America over a barrel and Uncle Sam is in a bad strategic and tactical situation with China thanks to Donald. Donald can't play checkers, much less chess and these guys play go.

Donald needs a distraction too and a war is a good one, Donald is probably looking for one with Iran, China is too strong and Donald is a bully who picks on the weak.

you blend in the blue to fight red or make whiter- you don't just leave it because it looks..blue..you know, he makes a pretty shitty woman

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext
who would have guessed.

now their gonna and say its anti trumper conspiracies

Gond00s said:

now their gonna and say its anti trumper conspiracies

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Gond00s said:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext
who would have guessed.

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the proven prophylactic is zinc.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Here is your next crises, China is gonna move on Hong Kong and wipe out their democracy there, Hong Kong is a major global financial hub because of the legal system used there, a left over from the British. Xi sees his chance with a weak American president and the country on its knees because of his incompetent response the covid -19, to take over Hong Kong militarily. We have a lot of Chinese Canadians who were hedging their bets with properties in Canada, but air travel is banned and they can't get out. Canada should help them, Hong Kong has one of the lowest infection rates in the world, so charter flights back should be no problem along with isolation protocols.

China is gonna take over Hong Kong soon and if it embarasses Trump enough, there could be trouble, America is very vulnerable and not ready to take on China right now, not with Trump. America owes trillions to China and a lot of PPE comes from there as do the feed stocks and chemicals for most drugs, including those that might be used to treat covid-19. China has got America over a barrel and Uncle Sam is in a bad strategic and tactical situation with China thanks to Donald. Donald can't play checkers, much less chess and these guys play go.

Donald needs a distraction too and a war is a good one, Donald is probably looking for one with Iran, China is too strong and Donald is a bully who picks on the weak.

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needs new thread. I hope you don't mind if I hijack your post into one on this topic.

schuylaar said:

the proven prophylactic is zinc.

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nah just pure weeed

A diversion.

Fogdog said:

needs new thread. I hope you don't mind if I hijack your post into one on this topic.

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I figure it will deserve a thread soon, it could be a hot topic, China going after HK will be very bad and will put heat on Trump. If donald has a problem he always seems to make the wrong choice. America doesn't need this shit at this particular moment and especially with this POTUS, the pandemic is enough for now.

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A diversion.

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I remember that by Doug Clark And The Hot Nuts about 1969

hillbill said:

I remember that by Doug Clark And The Hot Nuts about 1969

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Yeah, 1965. But these lyrics are different.
Edit: A cover of that song, but with augmented lyrics and a different tune.

Chris Hayes: Trump Has Failed Us, But We Shouldn't Fail Each Other | All In | MSNBC

Chris Hayes: “This pandemic is a challenge and test for our federal government, which has thus far failed us. But it is also a challenge for us, for our society about what we value and who we value, and how we express that we are looking out for each other.” Aired on 05/22/2020.

Here is how Trump is helping with super spreader events, singing praises to the Lord while packed into pews. Murder for a POTUS, plain and simple
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Trump slams governors, demands they open houses of worship ‘right now’

KEY POINTS

• President Donald Trump on Friday demanded that governors reopen churches, synagogues and mosques “right now,” threatening to override them if they do not do so by the weekend.
• Trump said at a veterans event earlier Friday that he would soon issue a “very strong recommendation” on reopening churches. “We want our churches open, we want our places of faith, synagogues, we want them open,” the president said then.
• More than 1.58 million cases and at least 95,052 deaths from the coronavirus have been confirmed in the U.S. so far, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

President Donald Trump on Friday demanded that governors reopen churches, synagogues and mosques “right now,” and threatened to “override” state leaders’ restrictions if they do not do so by the weekend.

The surprise announcement marked the president’s latest attempt to ramp up the political stakes surrounding the country’s coronavirus recovery efforts. He is facing a tough reelection fight against apparent Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

Trump said it was an “injustice” that some state leaders have allowed “liquor stores and abortion clinics” to stay open amid the Covid-19 pandemic while closing houses of worship.

“It’s not right,” Trump said. “I’m calling houses of worship essential.”

“If there’s any question, they’re going to have to call me, but they’re not going to be successful in that call,” Trump said of state leaders.

“The governors need to do the right thing and allow these very important essential places of faith to open right now, for this weekend,” Trump said.

“If they don’t do it, I will override the governors.”

But it’s far from clear if Trump has the authority to do so.

States, not the federal government, have imposed harsh restrictions on residents and businesses to try to slow the spread of the coronavirus. The White House has only released guidelines for states and regional leaders to follow as they combat the disease.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, when asked what authority allows Trump to override a governor’s rules, did not provide a specific provision.

Instead, she said, “the president will strongly encourage every governor to allow their churches to reopen – and boy, it’s interesting to be in a room that desperately wants to seem to see these churches and houses of worship stay closed.”

A reporter in the room quickly objected to that characterization, saying that he is a churchgoer and would like to attend services again but questions remain about whether places of worship are being asked to reopen too quickly.
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More "helpful" action by Trump along with starving ya out. His "numbers" are gonna be HUGE and with enough rope he will hang himself. The higher the numbers the easier oversight will be and the more damage to Donald when he refuses to cooperate. This might be the cost of liberty, this time around, it's often exacted in blood and misery.
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DOJ warns LA officials stay-home extension may be 'arbitrary and unlawful'
(CNN)A Trump administration official wrote in a strongly worded letter Friday to Los Angeles officials that he was concerned that the mayor and county health director were taking "an arbitrary and heavy-handed approach to continuing stay-at-home requirements."

The letter from Eric Dreiband, assistant attorney general for the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, came in response to comments from Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who had asserted in a "Good Morning America" interview last week that the city will "never be completely open until we have a cure" for the coronavirus, which has claimed more than 3,600 lives in California...

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