Pandemic 2020

DIY-HP-LED said:

Think about that, for every 10,000 people who catch the virus (these are only reported cases, not the real number of total cases) perhaps 2,000 people will require hospitalization, a day, in Florida alone, of those between 500 and a thousand will die, a day. Ditto for Texas and other red states, including California, but I expect they will hammer on the brakes, especially in hot spots. Most of these red states don't have the healthcare or public health infrastructure to cope and are already overwhelmed, this will drive the mortality rate up.

Supportive steroid therapies to deal with clotting issues are the only thing that will mitigate the mortality rate at this point, convalescent plasma will help some, though it's like a fart in the wind compared to the scale of the crises. Masks, sensible policy and NPRs will help the most.

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topcat said:

California is solid Blue.

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Fogdog said:

There is still a lot of red state in rural and the southern quarter of CA.

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topcat said:

That's bound to happen, especially with over 40 million people. Katie Porter did the impossible by flipping a solid red Orange County seat in the House. She makes me proud. Farmers and the poorly educated across the nation tend to vote against their own best interests.

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Fogdog said:

I agree that California, as of this moment, looks to be controlled by Democrats for the foreseeable future. The same thing is happening in Oregon. Even Republican leaders in OR say this, which is why they have switched to the tactic of boycotting the legislature rather than allowing a bill authorizing the use of taxes in the form of a carbon tax to drive the switch away from fossil and other black or brown sources of energy.

My impression of southern CA may be biased by accounts of how conservative it was. Maybe things have changed but as late of 2011, the people I worked with in San Diego were quite conservative. I've since lost touch with those people but they are still around. Just a couple of years ago, they had a health crisis because the SD city council was delaying funding for public toilets. An epidemic of Hep A broke out in area where there were a lot of people experiencing homelessness. That was about as dumbshit-conservative of a move as any Trump has made.

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DIY-HP-LED said:

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DIY-HP-LED said:

Amid COVID-19 Surge, U.S. Stuck With ‘Same Horrible Choice’ As In Start Of Pandemic | All In | MSNBC

hris Hayes: “We could have found our way to some form of normal life. But we did not do what was necessary to get there. So, we are stuck…back with exactly the same horrible choice we had fourteen weeks ago.” Aired on 06/26/2020.

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schuylaar said:

Dick Cheney says WEAR A MASK. #realmenwearmasks
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Cheney said in March that the US must address its health care crisis in order to restore the economy, as some of Trump's allies pushed to reopen the country despite the threat of the coronavirus pandemic.
"There will be no normally functioning economy if our hospitals are overwhelmed and thousands of Americans of all ages, including our doctors and nurses, lay dying because we have failed to do what's necessary to stop the virus," Cheney wrote on Twitter.
In April, Cheney pushed back against a false claim by Trump that he has "total" authority to decide to lift restrictions governors have imposed amid the coronavirus pandemic.
"The federal government does not have absolute power," Cheney tweeted at the time, though she did not mention the President explicitly.
The Wyoming Republican invoked the 10th Amendment to the Constitution in her tweet, saying, "'The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.' United States Constitution, Amendment X."
Cheney is not alone in calling for mask-wearing. Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, whose state of Florida has seen a recent surge of coronavirus cases, said Wednesday that "everyone should just wear a damn mask."

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