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Budley Doright

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Omicron has completely changed what we thought we knew about COVID-19, given how quickly it develops in the body, causes symptoms to emerge and infects others. And that means the tools we have to try to contain it are no longer as effective.

Read in CBC News: https://apple.news/AFx56NzCbRz-NEOVJGDck5A
Just another example of if your not vaxxed your an idiot and should not take up a bed needed by the intelligent people. I was kind of understanding re the apprehension of the vax at first but still got the shot because I felt it was the right thing to do. But now!!!! If you don’t get it then stay the fuck out of the hospitals stupid fucks, just die at home wallowing in your feedom. I have ordered an O2 meter just so I’m not needlessly going to the hospital until actually needed, god forbid :(. Hopefully it will relieve some stress of not knowing if I’m wasting their time and a bed :(.
Or a chair which seems likely at this point lol
 

CunningCanuk

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Just another example of if your not vaxxed your an idiot and should not take up a bed needed by the intelligent people. I was kind of understanding re the apprehension of the vax at first but still got the shot because I felt it was the right thing to do. But now!!!! If you don’t get it then stay the fuck out of the hospitals stupid fucks, just die at home wallowing in your feedom. I have ordered an O2 meter just so I’m not needlessly going to the hospital until actually needed, god forbid :(. Hopefully it will relieve some stress of not knowing if I’m wasting their time and a bed :(.
Or a chair which seems likely at this point lol
I agree 100%, the antivaxxers should own their decision.

The O2 meter is a good idea. We’ve had one around the house since I first read about happy hypoxia and we regularly check our O2 levels.

Stay safe, Budley.
 

CatHedral

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FREEDUMB! The guberment is coming for the unvaxxed, roll up yer sleeves or drop yer pants, yer choice! :lol:
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If you do both sleeves and pants, the shots cancel! :bigjoint:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Just another example of if your not vaxxed your an idiot and should not take up a bed needed by the intelligent people. I was kind of understanding re the apprehension of the vax at first but still got the shot because I felt it was the right thing to do. But now!!!! If you don’t get it then stay the fuck out of the hospitals stupid fucks, just die at home wallowing in your feedom. I have ordered an O2 meter just so I’m not needlessly going to the hospital until actually needed, god forbid :(. Hopefully it will relieve some stress of not knowing if I’m wasting their time and a bed :(.
Or a chair which seems likely at this point lol
The main thing is to avoid it while the hospital system is swamped, we don't need to add to the burden. However, we are gonna get this thing sooner or later and it might be best to party with the college students a few weeks after a boost! In other words, time when you get infected with this shit, make it at a time of your choosing. That's how I see it so far, getting infected with this is always a bad idea, but we have little choice about that, but perhaps we might have more choice about when.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Read this collection of covid research posted on twitter, but be warned that all this info together is rather alarming to say the least.


Yep, it sure is scary, but we can't do anything about it than most of us aren't doing already: vaccinate, boost, wear a mask, limit social contacts, avoid large crowds and try to get as healthy and strong as we can for the inevitable ordeal/ or bad cold.

I still believe the milder and shorter the case, the less damage done, that's just common sense, but it's also backed up by data. Hospitalization rates compared to the number of infections are low and vaxxed people seem to have milder cases of a shorter duration. Perhaps along with being vaxxed, a mild covid infection can prime the immune system for omicron.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not down playing the seriousness of this, especially for the vulnerable and unvaxxed, but the boosted are doing well against it. I figure those who are boosted will get omicron as their immunity wanes over the spring and summer, the severity will probably depend on how far out they are from their booster. If one is gonna get this shit, it might be best to await until the hospitals aren't overrun and there are lot's of therapeutics available. We probably won't get boosted every 6 months unless vulnerable.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Just another example of if your not vaxxed your an idiot and should not take up a bed needed by the intelligent people. I was kind of understanding re the apprehension of the vax at first but still got the shot because I felt it was the right thing to do. But now!!!! If you don’t get it then stay the fuck out of the hospitals stupid fucks, just die at home wallowing in your feedom. I have ordered an O2 meter just so I’m not needlessly going to the hospital until actually needed, god forbid :(. Hopefully it will relieve some stress of not knowing if I’m wasting their time and a bed :(.
Or a chair which seems likely at this point lol
I really like that link. I was reading the article on how alcohol causes cancer and that was a really interesting article. Do you use oxygen for breathing ? I am not sure what the fuck is going on out there right now. My husband just told me that the Covid Zar said we should be isolating right now. My anxiety level is back at April 2020 and I double mask everywhere I HAVE to go. A surgical under a KN95. Good call on getting your emergency kit up to date. Don’t let your guard down. Even stepping outside your door to get the mail.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If you do both sleeves and pants, the shots cancel! :bigjoint:
So far it's just a proposal to the provinces and territories who control public health policy, just like in the states. They can pass laws to mandatorily vaccinate their populations, if they don't have them already, just like in America, they have the constitutional power to do this. We may have little choice if the hospitals become overwhelmed and the situation becomes more serious. However at the speed this thing is moving through society, I'm not sure how much good that will do, but we must try to limit the spread until we can get everybody who wants a boost or vaccine can get one. Dragging reluctant assholes out of their houses and jabbing them can wait, maybe they will become vaccinated the natural way or dead.

This is going to have serious long term consequences for our healthcare system, if you read the Captain's post on the long term effects of covid. It is going to cost a lot of money and in Canada taxpayers foot the bill for the unvaxxed, both in healthcare costs short and long term as well as other costs, because many will be unable to work. A lot of people like teachers and nurses who were thrown under the bus by their governments, especially in the states, are quitting en mass.
 

CunningCanuk

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I really like that link. I was reading the article on how alcohol causes cancer and that was a really interesting article. Do you use oxygen for breathing ? I am not sure what the fuck is going on out there right now. My husband just told me that the Covid Zar said we should be isolating right now. My anxiety level is back at April 2020 and I double mask everywhere I HAVE to go. A surgical under a KN95. Good call on getting your emergency kit up to date. Don’t let your guard down. Even stepping outside your door to get the mail.
We’re back to acting the same as we did this time last year too. We are only going out if we absolutely have to and getting most groceries delivered. It appears my daughter will be back in school in a week or so but until then we are doing everything we can to limit our exposure.

I told the story about a group of my daughter’s friends getting together to celebrate New Years (we didn’t let our daughter go). A couple of them have now tested positive.

Go figure.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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We’re back to acting the same as we did this time last year too. We are only going out if we absolutely have to and getting most groceries delivered. It appears my daughter will be back in school in a week or so but until then we are doing everything we can to limit our exposure.

I told the story about a group of my daughter’s friends getting together to celebrate New Years (we didn’t let our daughter go). A couple of them have now tested positive.

Go figure.
Can’t be careful enough these days.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You keep sticking to your mild theory but here's a statement from the Finland government.

Gov’t announcement on long covid during omicron surge.
Finland:
This will be a widespread chronic illness
Can affect kids
Can infect brain and lead to cognitive impairment
Will impact workforce and economy
Will impact healthcare system
Like I said, we will have little choice, mild or not, when the boost wanes, omicron will come. Best to delay it until the hospitals are in better shape and the unvaxxed are either immune or dead and there are more therapeutics available. If you have a better plan, let me know.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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We’re back to acting the same as we did this time last year too. We are only going out if we absolutely have to and getting most groceries delivered. It appears my daughter will be back in school in a week or so but until then we are doing everything we can to limit our exposure.

I told the story about a group of my daughter’s friends getting together to celebrate New Years (we didn’t let our daughter go). A couple of them have now tested positive.

Go figure.
Omicron changed the game, it will be too difficult to control with NPI's, we can only hope to slow it down using individual action to protect ourselves. However the booster will wane by this spring and there is an inevitability about this wave that we never had before and the experts are reacting accordingly. We have a duty to protect ourselves for as long as we can to protect others and the healthcare system from being swamped. If one is gonna be exposed, it is best to be recently boosted and I can't think of a better way to be exposed than to have a kid in school! I believe the experts are coming around to vaccine bolstered and herd immunity and other than trying to protect the healthcare system, we won't see too many restrictions. If they determine omicron produces a low hospitalization rate among the vaxxed, they will open up more. It's endemic now and other than improved boosters by next fall and therapeutics in the meantime, I don't see many other options.

We are still in better shape than were were with no vaccines and treatments.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Can’t be careful enough these days.
Just being careful may no longer be enough, especially if you have to work or have kids in school! This one kinda looks inevitable Amber, but it would be best to get it when either recently boosted, or later when there's some slack in the hospitals and more therapeutics are available. I'm not sure how many more boosts we will get until they have an improved booster, I'm guessing they will give one in the fall and winter like a flu shot, cause it will most likely be seasonal.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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My "get me through the winter" boost is due is 10 days and 2 hours! Yep I'm counting the hours and hunkered down. If I get this thing I want the hospitals empty and the staff to have lot's of experience with it and therapeutics available. Being able to be tested early will help too I suppose, avoid the rush and go where they ain't, right now that would be the hospital!
 

captainmorgan

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My point is stop calling it mild,it's anything but mild.

A quote from a omicron victim.

The Covid I have is "mild". The pain? Worse than broken bones, kidney stones, pancreatitis, and unmedicated childbirth. Not "just a cold". Mild like a mild bear attack. Literally feels like a bear is gnawing my bones. OTC pain meds = NO relief. Worst time I've ever had.
 
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Dr.Amber Trichome

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Just being careful may no longer be enough, especially if you have to work or have kids in school! This one kinda looks inevitable Amber, but it would be best to get it when either recently boosted, or later when there's some slack in the hospitals and more therapeutics are available. I'm not sure how many more boosts we will get until they have an improved booster, I'm guessing they will give one in the fall and winter like a flu shot, cause it will most likely be seasonal.
What the fuck are you saying? I am not getting this shit. I have come this far without getting infected and I am not going to now. Why do you think you know so much and give bad advice . Are you a doctor ?
 
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