Pandemic 2020

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injinji

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So your business is a “throw the keys in a bowl” type thing? :o! Or shuffle board tournament nights (Florida right)? Sorry just trying to add a bit of levity to your situation which sounds like one of the hard hit business’s and that sucks for people that depend on them to live :(. If your lucky enough to be able to stay away for a bit that’s probably not a bad choice. Good luck and stay safe!
We rent out space for events. Most weddings and birthday parties. And yes, I only worked one day a week while we were shut down. I'm lucky in that my wife makes damn good money in retirement, so I can walk away if I choose.
 

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EU agency says omicron pushing COVID-19 out of pandemic phase
Marco Cavaleri, head of vaccine strategy for the European Medicines Agency (EMA), told reporters on Tuesday that that the natural immunity conferred by the highly-infectious omicron strain may be fast-tracking the progress towards endemicity.

“With the increase of immunity in population – and with Omicron, there will be a lot of natural immunity taking place on top of vaccination – we will be fast moving towards a scenario that will be closer to endemicity,” Cavaleri said during a media briefing, according to Al Jazeera.

When a virus becomes endemic it means a population has gained enough widespread immunity — either from infection or vaccination — that transmissions, hospitalizations and deaths will start to go down.

Reports from South Africa, where omicron was first detected, have indicated that while the variant is highly-infectious, it does not result in a corresponding spike in hospitalizations and deaths. Another South African study released last month found that omicron may reduce infections caused by the delta variant by building cross-immunity to different strains, an effect that has not been observed in many other mutations of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

During his briefing on Tuesday, Reuters reported that Cavaleri also expressed doubts about the necessity for a fourth COVID-19 vaccine dose, telling the reporters that such an approach was not "sustainable."

"While use of additional boosters can be part of contingency plans, repeated vaccinations within short intervals would not represent a sustainable long-term strategy," he said.

"It is important that there is a good discussion around the choice of the composition of the vaccine to make sure that we have a strategy that is not just reactive ... and try to come up with an approach that will be suitable in order to prevent a future variant," he added.
 

schuylaar

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ok, i found your post that actually has a name in it....
well, my original statement stands, they want people to get back into the labor pool, they have no intention of extending social assistance to healthy people who can work, and just don't want to. jayapal dropped it because she realized it was a bad idea to keep people on "welfare" when they don't need it, and are just being lazy.
there's no reason to "address this"...it's a dead issue, they're just not going to reinstate unemployment benefits to people who have no medical reason not to go back to work, this was never intended to be a permanent change, and it went on far too long already in my opinion.
i think that's a good strategy, Roger.
 

schuylaar

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Covid everywhere. My lady is off work for at least a week because 2/3rds of the employees have covid so they closed down. One old guy that works there is a covid denier claiming it's a hoax but he's been taking ivermectin. Makes no sense and apparently he's now in the hospital with covid.

My lady's sister, husband and one of her sons all have covid. The sister and son were both vaccinated and just have mild symptoms. The husband didn't get his first shot until recently and is now in the hospital with a tube down his throat. When he was taken to the emergency room the sister said it was packed like a zoo with people sitting on the floor.

A good friend, his wife, and son all tested positive and have mild symptoms. They were all vaccinated as soon as they could get the shot.

My vaccinated niece that lives in Brooklyn had mild symptoms and tested positive. She's going to be OK. My sister's husband is going to get tested today as he's sick. I was talking on the phone with another friend yesterday and he knows a dozen or so people all sick with a couple of them in the hospital and will likely not survive due to age and poor health.

The neighbors next door are all sick. We were at the grocery store yesterday and there are people not wearing masks in public.

It seems that those that have been vaccinated are avoiding any serious sickness while those that were not are developing severe cases.

I'll be ready and willing to get a second booster shot if and when they become available.
Covid everywhere and death you say? I wonder if this is Omicron? @Roger A. Shrubber says it's time to get off our lazy asses.

used to be a time when 1300 dead every day was pearl clutch/smelling salts. and now..?
 

OG-KGP

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I'm reading all over how new Fauci leaked emails all point to a lab leak, a virus that couldn't happen in nature, and how fauci was trying to hide or dismiss this info, even talk of him editing documents released to the press to deny this.

Most media is saying to prevent harm from blaming china. If this is true, its down right disgusting.

 

captainmorgan

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The lab leak has been the most likely theory from the start and not really a revelation. The problem with the wet market theory was that there were no outbreaks of covid in the areas of the farms where all the animals come from. The spread seems to only comes from the wet market area which is close to the lab in a city of 10 million. My main question has been, is it a deadly virus that evolved in nature or was it engineered to be this deadly?
 

OG-KGP

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The lab leak has been the most likely theory from the start and not really a revelation. The problem with the wet market theory was that there were no outbreaks of covid in the areas of the farms where all the animals come from. The spread seems to only comes from the wet market area which is close to the lab in a city of 10 million. My main question has been, is it a deadly virus that evolved in nature or was it engineered to be this deadly?
The revelation is that our government knew and hid it and lied about it to the people.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but follow the money. All these insiders who invested in phizer and moderna when the vaccine was being made. Sold to the governments around the world and got rich from it.

I really hope that it never comes out that this was manmade and leaked on purpose. For profits at the expense of people lives all around the world.

If fauci knew, and our government knew, and simply hid this from the people, this makes me not trust the government or the shot even more than I already do.
 

OG-KGP

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@hanimmal

I see you laughing, but no opinion. Just hear me out. I know you don't entertain any thoughts outside your own. From the looks, these leaked emails are fact. And it totally could be factual that this was covered up, at least the origins.

What if this is true? Im not talking about russian propaganda. What if it was true that fauci and our government knew the origins and lied to the people?
 

HGCC

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I would have to ask why it's on fauci, it's a bit suspect as he seems to have been used as a boogeyman on the right, reporting on that isn't part of his job AFAIK. He might receive information like that, but doing anything with that would be over in national defense/department of homeland security I would assume.
 

OG-KGP

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I would have to ask why it's on fauci, it's a bit suspect as he seems to have been used as a boogeyman on the right, reporting on that isn't part of his job AFAIK. He might receive information like that, but doing anything with that would be over in national defense/department of homeland security I would assume.
Obviously, someone made or told him to deny and not report. He is the face of all this, maybe a pawn. I would sure like to know the truth is all. And why they hid this info.
 

hanimmal

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@hanimmal

I see you laughing, but no opinion. Just hear me out. I know you don't entertain any thoughts outside your own. From the looks, these leaked emails are fact. And it totally could be factual that this was covered up, at least the origins.

What if this is true? Im not talking about russian propaganda. What if it was true that fauci and our government knew the origins and lied to the people?
Yeah I am laughing at the leaps that are being made about some leaked emails. Sound familiar?
Obviously, someone made or told him to deny and not report. He is the face of all this, maybe a pawn. I would sure like to know the truth is all. And why they hid this info.
Or people reported everything and propagandists pretend like there is some cover up that their cult swallows like it is the truth and paint into some conspiracy, when they have the information that they are saying is being covered up and looking at it like it is some cherry picked ink blot test.

So our highest paid and ranking virologist hid the truth and lied to the world, and I'm a conspiracy theorist? What does that make Fauci?
Making a little over $400k a year is real boogey man money huh? How much do you think he could make on the private market making bio weapons or some kind of shit for one of the weapons companies if he really wanted to be some evil scientist?

The revelation is that our government knew and hid it and lied about it to the people.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but follow the money. All these insiders who invested in phizer and moderna when the vaccine was being made. Sold to the governments around the world and got rich from it.

I really hope that it never comes out that this was manmade and leaked on purpose. For profits at the expense of people lives all around the world.

If fauci knew, and our government knew, and simply hid this from the people, this makes me not trust the government or the shot even more than I already do.
I also laugh that people are so in love with the 'lab leak' theory always jump to China and Fauci and ignore other labs that have had issues around the time that the outbreak occurred.
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And the Trump administration was in charge at the time, and you jump to blaming it on Fauci. All sorts of bullshit cuck logic. It's a story as old as time. Dictators fuck up something that the public at large has to endure, and to deflect blame they smear the scientists who were telling them they were fucking up the entire time.
 
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