Pandemic 2020

Some countries are starting to lift all restrictions, stop testing and stop reporting on hospital admissions. They are adopting the "what you don't know can't hurt you strategy" looks like to me.

If this study is right, it means that most of the mutations for the variants are happening in immunocomprimised patients that can't clear the virus from their system.

It's a mild 7% death rate.

captainmorgan said:

If this study is right, it means that most of the mutations for the variants are happening in immunocomprimised patients that can't clear the virus from their system.

Narrow transmission bottlenecks and limited within-host viral diversity during a SARS-CoV-2 outbreak on a fishing boat

The long-term evolution of viruses is ultimately due to viral mutants that arise within infected individuals and transmit to other individuals. Here we use deep sequencing to investigate the transmission of viral genetic variation among individuals during a SARS-CoV-2 outbreak that infected the...

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yeah, that was discussed quite a while back, the longer the virus stays active in a person, the more chance a successful mutation has of occuring, and since they have the hardest time recovering, they would be a prime source

Round two of omicron will be worse.

captainmorgan said:

If this study is right, it means that most of the mutations for the variants are happening in immunocomprimised patients that can't clear the virus from their system.

Narrow transmission bottlenecks and limited within-host viral diversity during a SARS-CoV-2 outbreak on a fishing boat

The long-term evolution of viruses is ultimately due to viral mutants that arise within infected individuals and transmit to other individuals. Here we use deep sequencing to investigate the transmission of viral genetic variation among individuals during a SARS-CoV-2 outbreak that infected the...

www.biorxiv.org

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There is an increasing supply of effective antiviral drugs and there will be new vaccines and antibodies that can more effectively deal with new strains, including broad spectrum small antibodies. An effective antibody treatment is as good as a vaccine for the immunocompromised. People are being given a course of antivirals and sent home increasingly, this will hopefully keep hospitalization numbers down. There will be oral vaccines and effective nasal spray ones too as well as new anti viral medications. Long term there is hope for a pan coronavirus vaccine that will last long term and work against the whole coronavirus family of viruses.

Attention needs to be paid to the immunocompromised and this issue has been known about for awhile. That's why antiviral drugs and new antibodies are important, to target those people who breed new variants.

captainmorgan said:

If this study is right, it means that most of the mutations for the variants are happening in immunocomprimised patients that can't clear the virus from their system.

Narrow transmission bottlenecks and limited within-host viral diversity during a SARS-CoV-2 outbreak on a fishing boat

The long-term evolution of viruses is ultimately due to viral mutants that arise within infected individuals and transmit to other individuals. Here we use deep sequencing to investigate the transmission of viral genetic variation among individuals during a SARS-CoV-2 outbreak that infected the...

www.biorxiv.org

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I recall months back one person had two strains fighting it out in him for months.

Yes, You Can Contract 2 Coronavirus Strains at the Same Time: What to Know
After the case study of an unvaccinated older woman found to have acquired both the alpha and beta variants of COVID-19 was presented at this year’s European Congress of Clinical Microbiology & Infectious Diseases (ECCMID 2021), experts confirmed it is possible to have two variants of COVID-19.

On March 3, a woman was admitted to a hospital in Belgium for treatment of injuries from a fall. Following a procedural test, she was found to be positive for the virus, according to a press release from ECCMID.

At the time, she showed no symptoms of COVID-19 but rapidly developed respiratory problems and died 5 days later.
When her respiratory sample was tested for variants of concern (VOCs) using the PCR test, doctors discovered she had two different strains of COVID-19, the B.1.1.7 (alpha) originating in the United Kingdom, and B.1.351 (beta), first detected in South Africa.

“This is one of the first documented cases of coinfection with two SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern,” lead author and molecular biologist Dr. Anne Vankeerberghen of the OLV Hospital in Aalst, Belgium, said in the statement.

“Both these variants were circulating in Belgium at the time,” Vankeerberghen continued. “So it is likely that the lady was coinfected with different viruses from two different people. Unfortunately, we don’t know how she became infected.”

Not the first time dual infection identified

Similar cases of dual infection have been detected, although experts believe the Belgian case is the first documented, so far.
Scientists in Brazil reported two patients had two COVID-19 variants at the beginning of the year — one of them the VOC called gamma.
A teenager was recently treated by researchers in Portugal and appeared to have a second type of COVID-19 while recovering from a preexisting COVID infection.

Fauci: You May Be ‘Done With Covid,’ But Covid Isn’t Done With The U.S.

“You may be done with Covid, but Covid is not done with the United States—nor is it done with the world. We’ve got to do what it takes to get it to be done,” says Dr. Fauci, stressing the importance of boosters and vaccinations.

DIY-HP-LED said:

. . . . . . . . . .Attention needs to be paid to the immunocompromised and this issue has been known about for awhile. That's why antiviral drugs and new antibodies are important, to target those people who breed new variants.

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The problem is that the places with millions of folks with HIV are also the places with really low vaccine rates. We are having a hell of a time getting it under control in 1st world countries, so there is almost no help for the 3rd world.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Fauci: You May Be ‘Done With Covid,’ But Covid Isn’t Done With The U.S.

“You may be done with Covid, but Covid is not done with the United States—nor is it done with the world. We’ve got to do what it takes to get it to be done,” says Dr. Fauci, stressing the importance of boosters and vaccinations.

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Too bad nobody told Dougie.

CunningCanuk said:

Too bad nobody told Dougie.

'We are done with it:' Doug Ford says Ontario is moving on from COVID-19

Ontario Premier Doug Ford says he strongly discouraged the idea of any new COVID-19 restrictions or retooling of the vaccine passport system after next month, saying the public is “done with this,” alluding to his doubts about the efficacy of third doses and the rift vaccination has caused...

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a few days ago i didn't know who doug ford was...and i'm nostalgic for those days....
but at least i have someone to mention when Canadians start to get uppity about our politicians, now

Chinas zero covid policy and lock down in Hong Kong has failed, thousands of cases a day of omicron.

There’s no containing omicron.

captainmorgan said:

Chinas zero covid policy and lock down in Hong Kong has failed, thousands of cases a day of omicron.

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They'd better hope their vaccines work, cause it's a country of virgins, there could be a major PPE shortage soon, as a billion of the fuckers come down with covid over a couple of months! There could be supply chain issues for whatever comes out of China this spring as the country goes down sick for a couple of weeks. Let's hope their vaccines work, or we've been selling them mRNAs.

CunningCanuk said:

There’s no containing omicron.

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I wonder how they deal with internet influencers who spread antivaxxer disinformation and tell folks the government is evil and out to get them!

DIY-HP-LED said:

They'd better hope their vaccines work, cause it's a country of virgins, there could be a major PPE shortage soon, as a billion of the fuckers come down with covid over a couple of months! There could be supply chain issues for whatever comes out of China this spring as the country goes down sick for a couple of weeks. Let's hope their vaccines work, or we've been selling them mRNAs.

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this would be a great opportunity for American companies to get their shit together and deliver domestic products to all kinds of manufacturing and production companies... maybe quit talking about independence from markets and start actually doing something about it?
it could be possible to come out of this in a better position than when we went in...i've never trusted Chinese technology, they're just blatant and unashamed about intellectual theft, and they've attempted to steal both private industry secrets and government secrets for years...lets start making our own chips, and they can eat theirs...

Roger A. Shrubber said:

this would be a great opportunity for American companies to get their shit together and deliver domestic products to all kinds of manufacturing and production companies... maybe quit talking about independence from markets and start actually doing something about it?
it could be possible to come out of this in a better position than when we went in...i've never trusted Chinese technology, they're just blatant and unashamed about intellectual theft, and they've attempted to steal both private industry secrets and government secrets for years...lets start making our own chips, and they can eat theirs...

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Most advanced chips are made in Taiwan and that is a vulnerability, security for them though, clever bastards!

Chip manufacturing is being ramped up all over the world, north America and Europe and governments are encouraging it. As AI and robotics come more into to play cheap labor becomes less important, you can make shit here, as long as machines do most of the work. There have been mass layoffs in China over this and China is starting to experience a labor shortage, demographic issues and can't restart population growth easily. Right now there are mega bailouts and bankruptcies going on there as corruption and mismanagement come home to bite.

Ottawa police warn of arrest for 'anyone blocking streets'
Police in Ottawa on Wednesday warned truckers blocking downtown streets that they could be arrested if they did not leave the area as authorities look to bring an end to protests over COVID-19 restrictions.

"You must leave the area now. Anyone blocking streets, or assisting others in the blocking streets, are committing a criminal offence and you may be arrested," police said on Wednesday in a notice to protesters.

"You must immediately cease further unlawful activity or you will face charges," they added. "The people of Ottawa are being denied the lawful use, enjoyment and operation of their property and you are causing businesses to close."

Also on Wednesday, police were ticketing some vehicles that were blocking parts of the city's downtown area, according to Reuters.

The police action comes just one day after Ottawa Police Chief Peter Sloly resigned amid criticism about his handling of the protests.

Sloly had also been accused of bullying and volatile behavior toward senior leadership.

Police added on Wednesday that now that the emergency policy has been put into use "anyone coming to Ottawa for the purpose of joining the ongoing demonstration is breaking the law."