ndangerspecimen101
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MAKE way for your own little personal OPIUM den!
papaver somniferum poppies :)
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CreepyStevie69
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i was watching some history channel show on drugs and according to that heroin is derived from morphine which is derived from raw opium. so i think it may be a tad difficult to produce your own.
CrackerJax
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It's legal to grow, but not to harvest. If they catch you with sliced pods...ur guilty.
It's not time intensive at all really. once they are ready you make several small vertical cuts not too deep and simply let them ooze for the rest of the day. Then go back and collect the Opium.... it'll brown as it oxidizes....
It's not time intensive at all really. once they are ready you make several small vertical cuts not too deep and simply let them ooze for the rest of the day. Then go back and collect the Opium.... it'll brown as it oxidizes....
CreepyStevie69
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my best guess is "intent"
CrackerJax
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Having harvested ripe pods is intent. There is no good explanation to have them past the flower stage.
shepj
Oracle of Hallucinogens
Not really. Plant > Grow > Cut > Harvest
I don't think you have to worry about people producing opium/heroin domestically as they can in such places as Afghanistan.
Well.. in your house. Yeah.
Maybe it is not as addictive as the media portrays it to be (oh wait.. it's not. Not speaking from stories I have heard either).
Some people do. It is not that hard.
CrackerJax
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Uhhh....heroin is VERY addictive as is Opium. It is well documented.... and well before politics came into play. Just check the history books.
shepj
Oracle of Hallucinogens
Addictiveness Ratings of Various Drugs
"To rank today's commonly used drugs by their addictiveness, we asked
experts to consider two questions: How easy is it to get hooked on
these substances and how hard is it to stop using them? Although a
person's vulnerability to drug also depends on individual traits --
physiology, psychology, and social and economic pressures -- these
rankings reflect only the addictive potential inherent in the drug.
The numbers below are relative rankings, based on the experts' scores
for each substance:"
Nicotine 100
Ice, Glass (Methamphetamine smoked) 99
Crack 98
Crystal Meth (Methamphetamine injected) 93
Valium (Diazepam) 85
Quaalude (Methaqualone) 83
Seconal (Secobarbital) 82
Alcohol 81
Heroin 80
Crank (Amphetamine taken nasally) 78
Cocaine 72
Caffeine 68
PCP (Phencyclidine) 57
Marijuana 21
Ecstasy (MDMA) 20
Psilocybin Mushrooms 18
LSD 18
Mescaline 18
Yes, yes it is documented. Nicotine is far more addictive, spare me the talk. Like I said.. these are not from things I have heard.
CrackerJax
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Yah... I always see nicotine addicts lying in the alleyways.
Uhhh.... do NOT think you can play around with Heroin folks.... it is highly addictive.
Uhhh.... do NOT think you can play around with Heroin folks.... it is highly addictive.
shepj
Oracle of Hallucinogens
Uhhh.... do NOT think you can play around with Alcxohol or Nicotine folks.... they are highly addictive.
Alcohol has a potentially lethal withdrawl..
2cimdma
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Here is some info on poppies https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/149643-persian-white-poppies-dwc-soil.html
Also you dont even need the poppies for heroin. You can make it out of pills containing morphine or even codeine. You can buy Nurofen plus online which contain codeine and have them sent to ya. Then you can get pyridine, chloroform and acetic anhydride(thats gonna be the hardest to get your hands on). Alittle simple chemistry and you got whats called "homebake heroin"
Also you dont even need the poppies for heroin. You can make it out of pills containing morphine or even codeine. You can buy Nurofen plus online which contain codeine and have them sent to ya. Then you can get pyridine, chloroform and acetic anhydride(thats gonna be the hardest to get your hands on). Alittle simple chemistry and you got whats called "homebake heroin"
davesnothere872
Member
I just got a 10,000 seed pack of the Afgan Giant Blue Poppy seeds off of ebay. Me and my buddy are gonna be turning his 3 acre backyard into a poppy field this summer. Gonna till the field and plant around mid-march. Should be a pretty good harvest of OP. Which will be nice to top off the bowls of our Pineapple Express and Grandaddy Purple nugs with. Can't Wait! 
CrackerJax
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3 acres!!! Seriously..... my lord be very careful..... they will crucify you if they catch you. But you will be famous.... definitely make the national news.
ShepJ ... all I'm saying is know ur drugs. If you underestimate the power of Opium/heroin ... you are a prime candidate to find out the hard way. the life ruining family destroying hard way.
An alcohol addict can surprisingly still function well in society....the same for nicotine/caffeine.
Not heroin. Not opium. Just like Meth .... it's a QUICK road to hell ... very quick.
If you don't have mental discipline and RESPECT for Opium .... it will bitch slap you for the rest of ur life, however short that is.
I have smoked it ... and it is wonderful. BUT it is not to be taken lightly..... not at all.
shepj
Oracle of Hallucinogens
I do not agree (this is speaking from family/friend/and personal experience/education).
People who are heroin addicts are more than likely not driving around fucked up, beating their wives, or raping people. They probably aren't out getting pissed off and being violent/vandalistic.
*82% of adjudicated delinquent adolescents had at least one alcoholic parent.
*In 44 - 70% of the reported cases of battered women, the offender was drunk.
*70% of adult women alcoholics were sexually abused as children.
*Children of alcoholic parents are twice as likely to develop their own alcohol problems.
*80% of all adolescent suicides have been reported to be children of alcoholic parents.
*55 - 75% of homicide victims and
* 40% of rape offenders had been drinking at the time of the incident;
* 50% of those who commit sex abuse crimes also abuse alcohol.
*An estimated 480,000 children are mistreated each year by a caretaker with alcohol problems.
I could go on all day. You consider those statistics falling under "function well in society"?
*Alcohol kills about 80,000 (annually)
*Heroin kills about 2,000
Seriously... which is more dangerous? The proof is obvious.
Yes, respect opiates (they are very addictive, the withdrawl sucks, they do affect your life)! They are dangerous, if you use them.. BE CAREFUL!
CrackerJax, I am simply playing devil's advocate (I agree with you, opiates are not something to play with).
davesnothere872
Member
Damn, guess I have been grossly misinformed by a few people then. I was under the impression that as long as they didn't catch us harvesting them, there was nothing that they could do about us growing the plants themselves. I think now we are gonna consider downsizing it and going more guerrilla, instead of out in the open like before. We only want enough of it to smoke it a couple times a month all year long, until next harvest. Any maybe hook up some of our friends, who have only ever smoked the synthetic bullshit op that we have around here.
CrackerJax
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Dave, Just remember that you are raising a narcotic.... and a large grow would be viewed quite seriously by prosecutors if you are caught. It would be dream headlines for them, jail for you. Seriously..... yes, grow discreetly. One of the best ways is to start a real flower garden full of different varieties of regular flowers ... and simply grow your poppies among them. That gives you a reasonable defense.
Besides....what would you do with all that Opium ... It would be pounds of the stuff...
Shep.... you are woefully misinformed about opium. You need to read a bit more about it. Your cavalier attitude towards it is troubling to say the least.
Besides....what would you do with all that Opium ...
It would be pounds of the stuff... Shep.... you are woefully misinformed about opium. You need to read a bit more about it. Your cavalier attitude towards it is troubling to say the least.