Paranoid Question About Keeping an Online Grow Log...

I know this may sound a little paranoid, but has anyone EVER heard of someone getting caught growing because of an online journal type deal??

Literally NO ONE knows about my grow except me, but I keeping having paranoid thoughts that the popo might be keeping an eye on websites like this, and log IP's of users to see their location. Is there any chance of this happening? Has it EVER led to someone's arrest before?

i have heard of this befor...its why i just started my journal...no pics no proof...

Started your journal? Or do you mean ended?

I'm one of those people that will start thinking about something (like the cops busting in my door because some cop is surfing this website, and somehow logs IPs of users), and then starts to run away with it, thinking of the worst possible scenario. I'm really debating about just deleting my grow journal, but I really, really want the incite for any future grows I do (if any). Has anyone ever heard of people getting caught? Can any hard-core techies out there tell me if it is even possible for someone outside the administration of this site to obtain IP's of users and derive their location from that info?

if they really want to get u, yes they can but dont worry its very rare because it takes time and effort to track u down once they track u they will need a warrant to search ur house & all that just for a few pics u posted up... i dont think so... they may end up wit nothing

Interesting question, I wish I knew that answer as well. Some research is required.

I'd love some input from an admin or a mod on the site - I thought I remembed admin and mods being able to track the IP's of the computer where a user's post came from, but I wasn't sure if this site was able to do that.

Any more input from anyone? I'm sure ALOT of people are curious.

I Would Say If They Cant Put Ur Face With The Pic+ur Ip They Wouldnt Have Probable Cause. Evidece Would Be No Good Off This Site. Lots Of Here Say And Speculation

Well as a technie, I can get the Ip address from anyone here. All I would need to do is post a message with a picture thats hosted on my server. My server would log your IP, find your refferer (rollitup.org), then proceed to try and grab as many public cookies as I could and log them. I could then later go through the process of looking through the cookies to identify who you actually are (I dont know if you Test_pilot, or videoman,etc based on your ip, thats where the cookies come into play)...

The likely hood of this happening? I don't think its very likely unless your posting a grow journal of 30+ pound yields. Thats a lot of time, money, and effort to do that, as well as the manpower. Joe Bob the LEO doesnt have the required skills to do such a thing. Your talking way up there DEA type shit.

So is it basically safe to assume that the odds of being tracked down because of posting a grow journal on here in which you grow 5-10 plants is pretty slim??

It just seems like if the cops really wanted to track down a few growers, this would be a great way find people. I mean, honestly when you think about it, isn't it kind of dumb of us to post pictures of our grows online?

eh, maybe I'm just being way to paranoid? I just value my freedom.

Whos To Say Someone Here Isnt Just A Poser And Post Someone Else Pics

I, being a computer person will break it down for you. You WILL feal much asfer after reading this.

Chances of the "popo" tracking you are slim. Want to see why? "http://ipaddress.com/" This will give you your local ISP from your ip address which they can track VERY EASILY and rather quickly. The problem is that in order to "log" these ip's they need the be a mod of the forum.

True, you can (if using a wireless network) easily intercept any encrypted or non encrypted data and prove (even without pics buddy). All the police need is probably cause to issue a search warrent on you.

Ok so lets count the odds that he police somehow have a suspicion that you're growing marijuana. They need to log you ip, trace to your isp, obtain billing information to you and get a warrant just to "maybe" catch you. Btw its not a cheap process for them to go through for nothing. What makes this site safe is that in some countries it is entirely LEGAL to grow marijuana so the chances of them randomly screening people with ip's they obtained (how ever, with mod access).

You wont get cought doing this unless you go telling people "Hey I live in a country were it's illegal and hers my ip so you can trace me"..

What Would They Get The Warrent For? Unless Your Alreadt Under Investgation They Wont Bother They Would And If You R And Your On Here Postin Pics Then Your An Idiote. They Would Have To Build A Case Against You Like We Heard Befor Takes Lots Of Time

Actually even if you post pics they cant prove unless your an idiot and show YOU and the PICS.. Maybe the pic was taken were its legal to grow.. they have no proof.. and no warrants can be gotten if they think your growing.. kinda like if you get pulled over speedign and the cop wants to see in your car.. lock the doors and get out liek he asks but refuse to let him search your car without a warrant.... part of the law actually. just dont be an ass about it when they ask... lol to obtai nthe warrent they will need a probable cause..

and under investigation my ass.. they will look at your power bill and see the times the power goes up and down to see a pattern to get the warrant.. and when they search your house your screwed.. but again.. some places are legal aso pics prove not a god damn thing. unless you say "hey I took these pics HERE were its illegal..".. lol

i have a shop attaced to my house power and my bill averages 1100 i pay it no questions asked they do come out twice a year to do a power reading but outside away from my house ass long as you pay your bill the power company doesnt care its when you dont pay is when they look in to you.

Here's the deal. Put all these incidents in a list:
Cop w/technical knowhow
Superiors who will give go ahead
judge who will grant warrant for (hopefully) faceless pic
All the previous going on where cops have jurisdiction over you
Enough of the previous to be big enough dickfucks to ignore MUCH more easily observed, proven, AND prevented/solved crimes to bust someone for 5-10 plants. (whadda you gonna get 2-3 pounds max?) -or-
Enough of the previous to be not LAZY. (youve seen the tummies on those guys)
And finally, make all of the previous a COincident = aint gonna happen

And oh yeah if you live in the country = mega "aint gonna happen"

I felt safe here
1, being a very small grower and
2, this site is in Canada and I am not in Canada.
I do wish the moderators or rollitup would respond and answer about has anyone ever been busted or has the law ever tried to subponea for records ehre.

In my opinion it better to be safe then sorry.Why risk it? No grow journal for me or pics posted.

gardenandcats said:

In my opinion it better to be safe then sorry.Why risk it? No grow journal for me or pics posted.

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Well i am willing to bet pictures have helped you, and anybody else, on their grows.

Besides if risk is to be avoided at all costs, you might want to look at car fatality/injury rates next time you go to McDonalds.

My view is "nothing risked, nothing gained"... it feels good to help others and receive compliments! besides if we all hide it will be illegal forever... fuck that

You people fail to realise even WITH pictures.. unless you ca nprove without a doubt the picture (in question) is in illegal territory to grow. Becasue I could fly my lazy ass out to lets say ampsterdam and grow frigen plant.. take al lthe pics I want and come back to the US of A and the picture doesnt all of a sudden become illegal in any way, shape or form.. now does it? Now if they can without a doubt prove the pic was fro myour house now thats another story but why take a pic liek that (walls, floors, etc..) juet a pic of the plant with a dirt background is good enough.. who cars if your face is in it? It's no proof to them at all. period.

iwir3d said:

I could fly my lazy ass out to lets say ampsterdam and grow frigen plant.. take al lthe pics I want and come back to the US of A and the picture doesnt all of a sudden become illegal in any way, shape or form.. now does it?

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Good point...

Fact is the internet is screwing w/ the government in this forum just like it is across the net... TOO MUCH INFO

You gotta remember they have to pay/find/train people. and those people have to sift through huge amounts of potentially misleading data. Case in point, look at the quality of workmanship in airport security... yeah they got more people but most of them are not highly motivated/highly trained/both.
Read a report a while ago, where dept. homeland security snuck 7 out of 7 items onboard that should have been caught.

Thats also why governments who legislate (make laws ) too much WILL fail (with the humans of today... i read sci-fi). You can make a million laws, but you cant enforce them without stepping on WAY too many toes = revolt. And if you make laws and DONT enforce em people will eventually vote in a different government. And it all stems from our limited capacity to
ANALYZE all this information.