PC Case grow - Stealth + Perpetual + LST

v12xjs

v12xjs

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Cheers Uber. Appreciate that.
I'm feeling a better now. Got the scales so I know what I got for sure and it was close enough to the 21g target weight.

Granita just seemed to promise a bit more.

5.6g for the main top is not my pb but very respectable. The others ranged between 1.3g and 2.7g with a final overall 20.9g.
There are a couple of popcorn buds missing in action, but I left a few stalks on to act as handles so the final weight is probably about 20g for the full harvest.

Here's some pics of the big fight weigh in:
 

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anonymous.toker

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Just read through the whole journal. Great info v12, thanks for putting so much into the journal. You've got me eyeing some of the cases I have sitting around here but I think I'm going to try and score an old server case from work and start putting a rig together.
 
UberSmoker

UberSmoker

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Awesome. I doubt I will harvest anywhere near as much for my current grow, but this gives me hope for the next one. Great job man.
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Thanks annonymous.toker
It's a long read huh? Use a case with a front door if you can find one.

Cheers Uber
You'll do fine. Get the first grow done and you'll see how easy it is.
 
jpipe

jpipe

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Wow is all I can say, that was amazing. Just read from start to finish. + rep, and you are the fucking man!
 
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needhelp

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i FIM before for the multiple tops but i didn't know LST would have such an effect on it.... what is your take on LST vs. FIM.... do you see FIM as less of a quality method then LST... do you think it puts too much stress on the plant and wastes time in waiting for recovery... am i answering my own questions while i'm asking them.... ha
 
floridasucks

floridasucks

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sweet harvest v12.. i bet it feels real good to finally have that stash tin full.

btw.. i got 2 more flowering plants from my friends pc in Querkle's tank. ima put up some pics now
 
ElephantRider

ElephantRider

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I can't rep you, but I would if I could! That rules, bro. 20g with another 20 a few weeks away? Is that about right?

Any possible way anyone could convince you to go one more plant on this post so you really get to see the 'perpetual' aspect?
 
floridasucks

floridasucks

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ElephantRider said:
I can't rep you, but I would if I could! That rules, bro. 20g with another 20 a few weeks away? Is that about right?

Any possible way anyone could convince you to go one more plant on this post so you really get to see the 'perpetual' aspect?
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i agree with ER i think you should document one more grow, plus well get to see a diff strain right? or is pandora the same strain as granita?
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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needhelp said:
i FIM before for the multiple tops but i didn't know LST would have such an effect on it.... what is your take on LST vs. FIM.... do you see FIM as less of a quality method then LST... do you think it puts too much stress on the plant and wastes time in waiting for recovery... am i answering my own questions while i'm asking them.... ha
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I love both methods but just for my system FIM is less well suited than LST. For me FIM comes into it's own for taller plants where 4 - 6 large colas are needed or for scrog setups. FIM also does best with a veg stage. In my system time is of the essence so stressing a plant and knocking it back a week is not helpful.
Just my 2 cents though.
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Hey ER & fs
I think you guys just want some bud porn until yours is ready :)

Pandora is different genetics to Granita. Would you believe she is a cross between Jack Herer, Ed Rosenthal SuperBud and hashplant.
Like I could turn that shit down :)

Pandora is much more stretchy than Granita was so maybe there is some value in showing you guys the grow. It's a new strain to me too so I guess we could learn together.
Remember though that I now have a stash tin full of bud. I'll update when I can be bothered :)

I'll root through the pics I have up to now and see if I can do a little background on where I'm up to.

But no more bedtime stories after this one!
 
SketzoH

SketzoH

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WOOOOOHOOOOO!!!

Go v12 your the man glad youve decided to carry on with pandora :D

I personally would like updates of sketzoh junior aswell ;) haha
 
ElephantRider

ElephantRider

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Sweeeet! I've never had the superbud, and a buddy of mine said Jack was better than anything he'd ever had. I have been smoking a NL x Hashplant in this area for some 5-6 years, now, as a regular smoke. It's been fabulous and, having had plenty of NL in my days, the difference is really nice. It's a much milder, more euphoric high, for me. I love what the Hashplant brings to the table. :)
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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ElephantRider said:
Sweeeet! I've never had the superbud, and a buddy of mine said Jack was better than anything he'd ever had. I have been smoking a NL x Hashplant in this area for some 5-6 years, now, as a regular smoke. It's been fabulous and, having had plenty of NL in my days, the difference is really nice. It's a much milder, more euphoric high, for me. I love what the Hashplant brings to the table. :)
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I guess I know what seeds you are going to grow next :)
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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A thought occurred to me with regard to needhelp's question on my choice of methods and the reasons behind those choices. Maybe it will help you guys to understand my system a little better and assist in forming your own setups.

The biggest breakthrough I ever made in terms of pc case growing was nothing to do with cultivation techniques. I realised that I could get by with modest amounts of weed. In fact when I thought about it, a gram a day was actually more than enough. Once I knew I only needed 350g/year, growing in a pc case was actually a viable option.
Once you understand this principle, maximising yield becomes a secondary consideration. My job is to churn out average yields day in and day out.
The reality of this can be seen in the difference between a hobby gardener and a commercial market garden. Where the hobbyist grows the largest pumpkin or cabbage, the market gardener is concerned with getting lots of high quality smaller fruits for the least amount of effort.
I can pump nutes into a plant to get an extra gram or 2 but I risk nuteburn and losing half the crop or more in order to gain a minimal amount and this risk is too great. The same goes for topping or FIMming. If the timing is right then I can gain a small amount but if it's wrong then none of the tops will develop fully and I lose more than I ever stood to gain.
If you need more than a PC can give then you need to look elsewhere for a grow cab. Most of the problems I see on here are from people who use too much light or too many nutes. Just put more plants in a bigger cab! Everyone seems to want to better the 1g/watt thing but I only aim for a quarter of that which is far more achievable and much less risky.
As a result, I'm much more concerned with correct temps, getting the ph right and ensuring that the plant has an environment where it can thrive on it's own.
Any form of stress is counterproductive to that aim.
 
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needhelp

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v12xjs said:
A thought occurred to me with regard to needhelp's question on my choice of methods and the reasons behind those choices. Maybe it will help you guys to understand my system a little better and assist in forming your own setups.

The biggest breakthrough I ever made in terms of pc case growing was nothing to do with cultivation techniques. I realised that I could get by with modest amounts of weed. In fact when I thought about it, a gram a day was actually more than enough. Once I knew I only needed 350g/year, growing in a pc case was actually a viable option.
Once you understand this principle, maximising yield becomes a secondary consideration. My job is to churn out average yields day in and day out.
The reality of this can be seen in the difference between a hobby gardener and a commercial market garden. Where the hobbyist grows the largest pumpkin or cabbage, the market gardener is concerned with getting lots of high quality smaller fruits for the least amount of effort.
I can pump nutes into a plant to get an extra gram or 2 but I risk nuteburn and losing half the crop or more in order to gain a minimal amount and this risk is too great. The same goes for topping or FIMming. If the timing is right then I can gain a small amount but if it's wrong then none of the tops will develop fully and I lose more than I ever stood to gain.
If you need more than a PC can give then you need to look elsewhere for a grow cab. Most of the problems I see on here are from people who use too much light or too many nutes. Just put more plants in a bigger cab! Everyone seems to want to better the 1g/watt thing but I only aim for a quarter of that which is far more achievable and much less risky.
As a result, I'm much more concerned with correct temps, getting the ph right and ensuring that the plant has an environment where it can thrive on it's own.
Any form of stress is counterproductive to that aim.
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well put... puts a lot into perspective
 
green thumb matt

green thumb matt

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sweet job man. I have an almost exact grow going on. Looks like u had a hybrid little more on the indica side. How much more did height increase in flowering?
 
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