PC Case grow - Stealth + Perpetual + LST

ElephantRider said:

FS.. when I was a youth of 22 or so, I learned the most about what's good in psychedelics / nuggs from hangin' out with a few older biker hippies that toured with the dead for years and years. I painted with one of them. He introduced me to a buddy of his that had 100 sheets of North Cali Acid from Leary's personal lab that was hidden in the freezer since the early 80's. I rode that train hard, my friend! This acid was so clean, you could take a nap on it!

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damm u are one lucky man to have gotten that. older people always have the best shit.

HAH! My friends who are scrounging to find pot here would not say the same. We had a MAJOR Cannugget bust here a year and a half ago, or so. The DEA and FBI came in and took 45 people to jail for hauling literal tons of BC Bud BigBud across the border over a span of several years. They had a ton or so in posession (several houses), too. They had been supplying the entire NE US - Maine to Ohio to DC - with BigBud. After that, everyone in the area took cover and the rastas in the ghetto started having a field day selling their formaldehyde-sprayed, schwag brickweed from Mexico again. Lucky me, I have a small-time guy that didn't need to hide with an awesome NL x Hashplant. Unfortunately, he killed that in favor of the strain I have a clone of in my grow. Bagseed, but supposedly killer shit and a NICE looking Indica-dominant.

Wow ER. That acid stash sounds like all your birthdays came at once! If I'm not mistaken, Leary's personal stash was the legendary Owsley acid. I am sooo jealous

It was amazing, my friend. I've got some 300+ tabs in this old body and about 200 of them were that stuff. White blotter paper.. very inconspicuous.. not even really that crusty. But really.. no back pain, no muscle ache, no jaw, no terrible shits. When we ate that, one tab was enough for some 16 hours going STRONG and a nice peaceful sleep near the end. No acid hangover. I truly feel blessed to have met that guy. He was quirky and 12-14 years older, but he had old school class and smarts on it, too. he outright refused to sell to me the first time. I got my first 2 free, but the catch was I had to do them right then. I was with my g/f, at the time, and we were about to go see Nutty Professor in the theaters. Wow. That was one interesting movie!

We had a factory serving all the UK in the 70's but it was busted not long after I started dropping tabs in a huge bust that netted over 6 million tabs. They were also very fresh and clean.
Funny tale about that bust though. It was called operation Julie and took over 4 years to complete, but it should have been done in less than 2 years.
When the drug squad hooked up with local village police to carry out the initial raid, they set off to a remote farm. At the same time, the wife of one of the local cops rang ahead to the farm. She told them her husband was the village cop and he had mentioned he was going to call on them for some reason or other. She asked if they would let him know upon his arrival that he'd left his packed lunch at home
Unsurprisingly, the raid found nothing

While I'm here I've got a quick update that may be of interest to you guys.
Around my garden there is lots of sphagnum moss growing wild so I've been doing some reading and it's most interesting stuff. Kind of like perlite mostly but with a ph 6.5 and built in cal/mag.
So I decided I had to try it and I'm a bit staggered by the results so far. Hence this update.
Got some pics, but the spec is that the plant is now 21 days old and is sitting in my normal soil mix + 20% sphag moss and it's going fookin mental! This is a known strain and it's never done this before.
At the 3rd node I take 5 fingered leaves to be a sign of max health and 7's at the next node means all is rosy in the garden for me. This thing had a 7 on the 3rd node and is now spouting 9 fingered leaves at 20 fooking days under 12/12!!!
I named her Terra after Terra Patrick, but terror now seems more appropriate
Have a look and see what you think.

Thanks for posting that info Sounds good, theres certainly some vigorous growth happening there! You can get it from garden centres too, its used to line hanging baskets. Can you let us know how she develops? Might be worth a try to see what happens.

dam great stories guys.. im drooling over the though of that acid.

wow.. v12 i should have told you before. but ive been using peat moss mixed in my soil for a while now and it works awsome.. the sphagnum is a type of peat moss but i dont think it really matters which type u get. i use this organic kind called better-gro orchid moss. i dont know how u do it but i grind it up with my hands till its kind of powdery, then mix it in.. hope that helps.

Hey fs. Always wondered what your trick was

Cheers CV. It's still going mad. I've got a real fight on to contain it in my little tub

V12 - u are the PC growing God my friend !

I'v just invested in one of these PC growers from Ebay - With the DWC - Hydro system - Which I though would be great for yeild ?
After reading through this whole journal, Im now in 2 minds!

You've inspired me on several of your methods - I know alot of theory but am now about to test this - I'm pretty confident after seeing your results!

However, advice please V12 - Would u say Soil would be a better option or should I see how this DWC system works first? DWC is proven to improve yeild
(Which isn't a major issue as Im only doin this to save money)
What do ya think buddy ?

RedEyeJedi

Hey RedEye
Good to see another UK grower around. Glad the journal helped.
Both mediums have pros and cons. Hydro is out on a few counts for me. It takes me a long time to get the ph and ppm of my nutes correct for hydro and also I'm concerned about the implications of so much water near so much electric! Besides, the way I split my case would require 4 separate containers. The vigorous growth can be a downright menace in such a tight space too.
On the plus side, that growth can be your friend if you know your lst and the nutes only need attention once a week.
If you intend to go for a single harvest like a scrog then it's probably ideal, but for multiple plants at different sizes you should stick to soil.
I'm playing about with a middle solution at the moment. It's called a Hempy Bucket and it may offer all the advantages of both systems. I'll let you know how I get on.

Thanks V12,

I think I will test out the hydro for my 1st time and if I succeed with it I may continue - sounds like I may have an easier time with soil though?!
I'll be following your threads fom now on buddy - like I said in my previous post - u are a PC growing god and proved many of my friends wrong in all
your methods - 1st being the PC grow start to finish - a friend said "no chance" Thanks for proving him wrong on that 1 - the next thing is 12/12 from get go - the same friend said "No chance, they would die due to no veg period". Again - u proved him wrong! and lastly the perpetual side of it - he said u cant grow plants of different stages in the same room! And AGAIN - u proved him wrong! Very impressive! lol =)

I will be keepin a grow journal and let u know how I get on with mine aswell - I'v joined ur forum too (I hope u don't mind?)
I'm just pleased to have found someone who is producing good results with PC growing!

RedEyeJedi

Hey RedEye.
LOL. Glad I helped shoot your buddies down. Hope you had some money on the bet
Look forward to seeing your rig.
Thanks for joining up to the forum too. I haven't worked out how to send you an activation email just yet but your account is live.

v12XJS, if you don't mind I'll also sign up to your forum when I get a new 'Hush' account set up. I see you have Elephant Rider there already , btw RedEye, ER's another good PC case grower and his 'client/server model' thread is well worth reading through.

If I can chip in here, I was wondering how practical DWC would be in a PC case!...... BUT I reckon it could just be done, I have seen it done in a tiny bedside cabinet in the past so its JUST possible maybe. You certainly get far more vigorous growth with DWC and all you are really talking about is a pump and airstone, those roots LOVE being in water One day I have promised myself I'm going to do true aquaponics, we keep fish anyway and to be able to see them nibbling away at roots and feeding them with thier waste is incredible, I have seen amazing results with the plants suspended above the tank and the roots gently swaying about as the fish swim around them .... sorry wandered off topic there! So many different ways of growing the herb.

Anyway, good luck whatever you do.

Hey CV. I'd love to see you over on the micro forum. Anybody with an interest in micro is most welcome. Hopefully it's only an interim measure until RIU give us our own section, but it's nice to have a place we can call our own.

I have some Hydor Ario immersible pumps that fit perfectly into my 1 litre pots and they are utterly silent in comparison to normal fish tank pumps. In use they sound like you are sitting next to a glass of lemonade as the only noise you hear is the fizz of the bubbles
Previous experiments with 2 plant scrogs in a single tank were most promising but changing out the res was a nightmare once they got established. Now I have a mother plant outside and can take cuttings I may stick one in behind my hempy experiment. I think it would be easier to control a clone as it will switch to flowering faster than a seedling would.

You sound like floridasucks trying to combine a pet with a grow
It sounds amazing though.
Check out his Querkle thread in the Toke n Talk section. Absolutely wonderful stuff!

DWC sounds like fun, but my issue with it is that, if you have 3 plants in there.. 3 strains, say.. and they all have different nute requirements, you're shot because they share a res. Like v12, here, I'm going to experiment with hemptiness. It's the perfect hybrid of soil and hydro, really. Also, if I'm not mistaken, you can use moss in perlite.

V.. sorry I haven't been active on the other board yet.. I'm quite swamped at work.

I'm only doing 1 strain at the moment, "Ice Cream" - My friend is doin my cuttings - they should be ready for the DWC in about a week - Although I do have fish aswell -
That method sounds cool CV, not experienced enough as yet though - I'm hoping DWC will teach me basic hydro growing (This is my first attempt indoors)
I grew a lovely plant in my Mrs's Parents garden last year - Her dad has MS so it was a perfect opportunity to put my little bit of knowledge to the test.....

She gave us a healthy 9 ounces and a Q - She stunk too!
I stressed her badly at the beginning! fed her far too much! But the rain we had helped me flush her (luckily)

She had red stems right till the end though - (She was very stressed, I bet she hated me for ages - but didnt half taste lovely) lol

Now, its got to a point where people round my way a charging £10 per gram for damp, under-cooked and nowhere near nice to smoke -

The sad thing is - it works! So, had they had left it for few more weeks it would probably be spanking smoke!

Greedy B@$74RD$!

Thats why I'm now here!

Thanks for makin me feel welcome though guys!
I'm sure I'll be needin some advice soon ! lol

I know those prices and despair at how good it could have been too
You will love your ice cream. It is naturally red stemmed so no change there. And they love lst

np ER. I'm just gonna try getting my head around phpmail.

I got hold of some Ice cream not so long ago off the same friend who's giving me the cutting! (Gorgeous bud, lovely taste!)

Yeh, I loved it! lol

Quick question V12 - do u think I could manage to get 2 plants flowering at the same time with dimensions like this, L503mm x W243mm x H555mm ?

The DWC system can grow 3 but I'm not silly, I know these babies don't stay small with hydro (Even with LST)
I would love to do the perpetual thing like u, but am not clued up enough yet! Im gona go with what I know so far - so 18/6 with the lights for 3 weeks (start LST after 2 weeks, if possible) then 12/12..

My greenthumb is itching now, can't wait to get started!

Sounds like a nice big case you got RedEye. 2 Plants should do fine in there, but I agree with you that 3 would prolly be a waste of a cutting/seed.
Your veg/flower plan sounds like a winner too.