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PC Case grow - Stealth + Perpetual + LST

v12xjs

v12xjs

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Just a quick update on where I'm up to ATM.
I've harvested Terra and I've also given a couple of girls away, so things are decidedly quiet for me right now. Here's a pic of the 3 girls that are left and also the latest recruit. HempyGoneWrong is looking really promising with another 2 or 3 weeks to bulk up :)
 

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Carolina Green Bud

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v12xjs said:
Hey Green Bud
The plants usually take 3 - 5 weeks to show sex. A dry run with free seeds is a good idea but if you decide to go for it I'd definitely suggest feminised seeds. With mixed seeds you will half your yields at a stroke.

I've have seen the case in your link a couple of times & I wouldn't buy it personally. The 2 grows I've seen it used with have had such bad heat issues that 1 doesn't seem to use it any more and the other has to remove the door every time the lights come on.
I was also asked to look at a grow journal on youtube featuring the same case, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7jxGlGka9Q
The plant in the vid seems to have grown sideways and away from the light which no plant will do. The buds that are touching the side of the case and are getting no light are also as well developed as the rest of the plant. That never happens either. Finally if you compare those buds to cfl and hps buds you can tell pretty easy that the plant was grown under a hps.
If the guy who markets them doesn't even use it to make his own sales material, then perhaps it's best to follow his lead and use something else yourself.
Please don't expect anything even close to 2 -3lb a year out of a case either.
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V12,
I just want to say, that you are great about answering questions. Your thread, and willingness to help are awesome.

No question the youtube video was staged, but you know that's marketing. And yes, 3-4 pounds a year is crap..

But, I wonder why the person you knew had a heating problem with the unit? What is different about the circulation and lighting than the unit you are using?

I mean, if you are inside your house, and you are running an air conditioner, and you have a fan circulating air in and out of the unit, why would overheating be a problem. Maybe it's just an issue at your location. (You from down under?)

I'm in the SE US, and we run our air conditioning full blast. I promise you it hasn't been over 75 F degrees in my house all summer. Outside we hit 100 F last week.

Do you mind taking your plants out of the case and getting some shots of the inside, fan lights, etc.

Thanks again M8
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Hey Green Bud
Thanks for the kind words.

There's an album in my profile called case. Have a look through there, you should find what you need.

The thing with temps is that the room temp is going to be the lowest the case will be, so for you that means it will not get below 75F even when the lights are off, which is already higher than the plants want. Unless you have perfect ventilation and remove all heat as it gets generated, the temps will rise considerably from there when the lights go on.

I'm not going to do a full breakdown of problems & possible solutions for that unit as I have an issue with vendors who blatantly misrepresent their products. Personally I would rather have 3rd degree burns than publish anything that may assist them to fleece good people out of hard earned cash.
If you are still considering buying it you should really be putting your questions directly to them.
Sorry if that sounds a bit shitty. It's not meant as a dig at you.
 
UberSmoker

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v12xjs said:
Thanks Uber.
Good to see you m8. Hope you get your rig back up & running soon.
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No problem :lol: it's good to be back mate. Just replaced the mylar in the rig as it got damaged in transport.

I also have to add an intake fan soon, as the new place is a lot warmer than where I was living before, and temps are frequently around 85F at the moment when the CFL is on.

I'm gonna make a smaller internal carbon filter this time and add some dummy ports to the back of the case so it is fully stealth instead of looking half finished.

I will definitely be posting a new journal to the PC Growers Gang and PC and Micro Growers Forum once the upgrades are done so keep an eye out for it.
 
cerebralvibrator

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v12xjs said:
Hey Green Bud
Thanks for the kind words.


The thing with temps is that the room temp is going to be the lowest the case will be, so for you that means it will not get below 75F even when the lights are off, which is already higher than the plants want. Unless you have perfect ventilation and remove all heat as it gets generated, the temps will rise considerably from there when the lights go on.

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v12, Looking good mate :-) HempyGoneWrong is coming on a treat.

Just a thought on temps in a PC case, would it be possible to fit a glass heat shield right below the bulbs? I mean it could be bought cut to size to fit, but I guess it depends where the fans are pulling from? I'm considering of doing this in my small cabinet as I'm also struggling with temps atm!

CV.
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Thanks again Uber. I'll be watching out for the new journal.

Hey CV
Just for info, glass doesn't have any insulation properties, so it will transmit any heat from the bulbs straight through to the plants. I assume it's use in cooltubes is due mostly to the fact that it will not melt if the fans give up the ghost.
For best heat shielding properties, polycarbonate is the obvious choice as it is a much better insulator and will therefore contain more heat. At 2mm thickness it will not block any of the 2700k or 6500k light and will also allow a little of the UVB to get through to the other side, which I'm pretty sure is a good thing.
There's a guy on fleabay UK who cuts it to size. Mine was about £3 delivered. Just search on polycarbonate sheet.
 
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Carolina Green Bud

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v12xjs said:
Hey Green Bud
Thanks for the kind words.

There's an album in my profile called case. Have a look through there, you should find what you need.

The thing with temps is that the room temp is going to be the lowest the case will be, so for you that means it will not get below 75F even when the lights are off, which is already higher than the plants want. Unless you have perfect ventilation and remove all heat as it gets generated, the temps will rise considerably from there when the lights go on.

I'm not going to do a full breakdown of problems & possible solutions for that unit as I have an issue with vendors who blatantly misrepresent their products. Personally I would rather have 3rd degree burns than publish anything that may assist them to fleece good people out of hard earned cash.
If you are still considering buying it you should really be putting your questions directly to them.
Sorry if that sounds a bit shitty. It's not meant as a dig at you.
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Didn't take it as a dig. You don't like the product, and I appreciate the advice. I did check out the album on your case.
 
RedEyeJedi UK

RedEyeJedi UK

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Still looking good V12 - I love the way all your buds look - so fruity looking!!
I'm glad for my extra space now - I could never have kept it under control like you do in a PC case!
"Short Rider" far from ressembles its name! LOL :)
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Greets DW. Hope the weather perked up for your outside girls. Bet they are looking sweet bby now :)

Cheers redEye
Glad you picked the tent. Specially lucky given the problems with the strain you chose.
Landed on your feet though. I might start calling you GoldenBalls after this :)
You jammy bastard :)

Stuff is still rolling along as usual in the case. Had some teething troubles with the new bulb but they seem to be in hand. Gave a few plants up too but the 2 revegging plants have come up trumps and things are looking as they should.
Got some pics by way of update. Figured I'd post up some shots of how they all fit in there so here's a snapshot of how they go in there with the temp/humidity gauge.
There's a couple of canopy shots too. In one you can see the bud behind the fan. It's a 92mm fan so the bud is around 4 inches. If you look hard you can see the one next to it is even bigger! :)







 
dopewear

dopewear

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those are some great pics v. you got another beauty on your hands! i just post new pics today of mine if you care to take a look
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Cheers fs.
Looking at that monster you have in your sig I'm thinking you could claim some International Carbon Credits for it soon :)
DW isn't far behind you either ;)
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Just checkud up on the girls and the case looked really awesome tonight.
I'll let the pics do the talking:





Pc case grows with cfl's FTW!!!:)
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Thanks guys.
I gave away a couple of good looking girls to good causes recently or there would be even more going on :)
The girl in the middle is half way through her flush and will be cut in the next week, the others are planted to finish every 2 weeks after that, so there's 14 weeks supply tucked away in there :)
 
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