Peaceful protests...are they effective?

meowmix

meowmix

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No. I don't think so anymore, but at this point, anything else is terrorism.

lol I love Ridley, I been watching this guy since the primaries. Fnny when the retard waddles up to the camera and explains how fucking stupid he is lol.
 
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PadawanBater

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Rob Roy said:
What is the "right" way for people to gain their freedom? Protest? Political process? Both? None? Let the government decide what your body is for.

Watch this video, and comment.
http://ridleyreport.com/video/2010/mar/idyllic_scene_precedes_marijuana_bust_nashua_nh
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Nonviolent revolution.

Think Gandhi style - you state your "demands" - make it national so everyone knows what you want - make sure you have a ton of people on your side, which requires organization, which in my opinion is the hardest thing to do, getting everyone to agree on specific goals - then demand action. If enough people are in agreement about an issue and demand action, all it takes at that point is determination. Also, you would need strong leader figures within the movement refreshing the morale and rallying the people, if these leader type figures were to be targeted or assassinated, since there would be massive emphasis on nonviolence, they'd become martyrs for the movement, just like MLK.

A HUGE PROBLEM is manipulation of the information people get. There is no regulation for facts. They can just lie, so everyone thinks they all have the facts because they saw it from this place or that place... We need to devise a way for people to obtain correct information. That should be one of the top priorities. With correct information, and information you can trust, you can make an intelligent informed decision about important issues.

But that's the way to go in my opinion, nonviolence, organization, set of goals, massive people, leaders, correct information.
 
meowmix

meowmix

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I agree, but it isnt going to happen. Everyone knows the mass media is full of shit and that 90% of the politicians are employees of the huge banks, corrupt as fuck. Yet these fucking retards choose to believe them and walk around arguing FOX vs CNN all day long. It's like mcdonalds, everyone knows its the worst shit anyone can eat, but they feed it to their kids all day. Worse even, there are people that DONT know these things lol. It couldnt be done, short of setting off EMPs everywhere disabling television and radio, but then how is the revolution formed ? lol


PadawanBater said:

Nonviolent revolution.

Think Gandhi style - you state your "demands" - make it national so everyone knows what you want - make sure you have a ton of people on your side, which requires organization, which in my opinion is the hardest thing to do, getting everyone to agree on specific goals - then demand action. If enough people are in agreement about an issue and demand action, all it takes at that point is determination. Also, you would need strong leader figures within the movement refreshing the morale and rallying the people, if these leader type figures were to be targeted or assassinated, since there would be massive emphasis on nonviolence, they'd become martyrs for the movement, just like MLK.

A HUGE PROBLEM is manipulation of the information people get. There is no regulation for facts. They can just lie, so everyone thinks they all have the facts because they saw it from this place or that place... We need to devise a way for people to obtain correct information. That should be one of the top priorities. With correct information, and information you can trust, you can make an intelligent informed decision about important issues.

But that's the way to go in my opinion, nonviolence, organization, set of goals, massive people, leaders, correct information.
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meowmix

meowmix

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Think about this. Violent Revolution. Every gun toting mofo and constitution loving (the ones that actually read and understand the constitution) man takes up the best weapons mass amts of ammo they can afford, go to the capital, to execute all of the known tyrants (plenty to be found) and off em. Kill them in their back yards, all kinds of crazy ass shit.

If you did not set off EMPs everywhere first (LOL right) youd have another grass roots army (not to mention most(cause some would be doing the right thing) of the assigned military) taking out the revolters. These other guys would be convinced you were white Al Qaeda or something for sure.

The odds are with this violent revolution though imo still. There is another way. I think youd have to form a large secret society and collude to take over and take out financial institutions and basically replace the current corporatocracy. I like this way the most for sure, and itd work if you did it, might take a long fucking time. Itd include everything from marrying in to families to working key jobs, breaking plenty of laws, trading inside knowledge etc. Itd be a lot of like minded people, working under the radar, but dedicating their entire lives to the project, probably knowing they will not see the end goal.

I think that actually might have better odds than the violent revolution lol, just cause itd be a smaller group of people for the most part, not blatantly setting off flags as to their progress, what they are doing, and what their goals are.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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PadawanBater said:
Nonviolent revolution.

Think Gandhi style - you state your "demands" - make it national so everyone knows what you want - make sure you have a ton of people on your side, which requires organization, which in my opinion is the hardest thing to do, getting everyone to agree on specific goals - then demand action. If enough people are in agreement about an issue and demand action, all it takes at that point is determination. Also, you would need strong leader figures within the movement refreshing the morale and rallying the people, if these leader type figures were to be targeted or assassinated, since there would be massive emphasis on nonviolence, they'd become martyrs for the movement, just like MLK.

A HUGE PROBLEM is manipulation of the information people get. There is no regulation for facts. They can just lie, so everyone thinks they all have the facts because they saw it from this place or that place... We need to devise a way for people to obtain correct information. That should be one of the top priorities. With correct information, and information you can trust, you can make an intelligent informed decision about important issues.

But that's the way to go in my opinion, nonviolence, organization, set of goals, massive people, leaders, correct information.
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Certainly manipulation of facts is an issue. It has kept certain benign substances illegal for all these years.

I agree that nonviolence is the way both ethically and tactically.

The people up in New Hampshire are using nonviolence to try to gain many freedoms. There is quite a movement going on and it's growing.
 
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max420thc

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this is a easy one . after thinking long and hard about it .
to destroy this government is easy. it is already happening.
the beast we are fighting needs money to survive . its not getting enough money to feed the beast right now so it is so desperate it is monatizing the debt even.
the beasts revenues are down right now SEVERELY .the BEAST derives 80% of its revenue from consumerism . in other words when you go out and buy things they get a tax from it.
whether its a fuel tax or a income tax or a social security tax. it ALL comes from you spending money.
JUST STOP SPENDING MONEY all of us.
the tea party appears to enjoy over 40% approval rating amongst the general population.
if 40% of this population just stops spending money . (and for the most part we have) its just a matter of time before the governments printing of money destroys the value of the currency making their purchasing power junk(everyone else who is holding dollars too)if your money is junk your power is junk.
we are on our way to bring the beast down actually .just spread the word. dont buy anything you do not need and be prepared.
this is going to put the general population under extreme stress. like the bear at yellowstone who is used to getting fed by the tourist . when one comes along that does not give a free hand out to the bear the bear does not understand sometimes gets mad and eats the tourist because he cut off his free hand out. that is how ghetto people think .
the crime has already started off, the stupid killing one another. chicago cant even keep up with blood supply right now because of all the shootings and stabbing in chicago.
the cost of living increase's have stopped on social security . obama thinks hes going to pay em off with a 250 dollar check or some shit.
the real inflation is around 6%. that is just to start right now. what happens to them old people when inflation hits 20% from all these idiots printing worthless dollars?what are the POOR going to do with a 400 dollar welfare check when a loaf of bread costs 200 bucks?you think it cant happen? it is going to happen.
every time you can put your hand into the governments pocket DO IT right now.drain them dry and make them print more money.
just keep that pressure up on em and it will bankrupt them and their power.
it is a simple effective plan. it requires no one shooting someone else.
it will create large amounts of poverty and crime in the citys though.
oh well. ANYTHING IT TAKES TO GET OUR FREEDOM BACK.
 
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max420thc

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think about this. 50% of US children are being fed on food stamps. what happens when those food stamps are not enough to buy food?
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Actually the founding fathers (always THE source) gave you a non violent way of creating a revolution.

It's called the ballot box.

Failing that, the "superdads" absolutely believed in violent revolution if the first option doesn't work....
 
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max420thc

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new jersey . virginia and mass proves you can still vote them out.
the primary is where you can pick some true constitutionalists at.
like peter schiff in conn. running for dodds old seat.JD Hayworth is running against progressive john mccain in AZ.
rand paul is looking good in kentucky.nevada is pretty libertarian in alot of things. im nor sure what the candidate is like running against dingy harry .
but reid has already lost that seat.
the republicans will pick up indiana without a doubt.
the face of the democrat party pelosi . waxman wrangle. reid . boxer fienstien . boxer is in trouble even in cali. frank. these are all perfect representatives of the democrat party.
all of them in one spot look like a fucking freak show. you could sell tickets of you had em all cooped up at a carnival side show.
spectre is DONE in PENN. its going to be a complete slaughter in 7 months.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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The Dem's know they are going to lose seats in 2010. They don't think they will lose a simple majority though.

The next step will be SWEEPING (Obama loves that word) new Immigration Laws. This will be done in time to shore up the 2012 national election.

It may work.
 
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max420thc

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yea..that will make tons of people happy legalize 25 million people who broke the law to come into the country .
 
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PadawanBater

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So you guys think something magical is going to happen in Nov?

Reps will win seats, Dems will lose seats. This exact same game will be played exactly as it is today, and I have a feeling you guys wont be able to call the bullshit for what it is then because the motherfucker claims the red color.

Cracker still supports Bush...
 
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max420thc

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we shall see.if it is bull shit ill call it bullshit.
several libertarians are running on the republican ticket right now. people who uphold the constitution .
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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It will slow down the beast we call the govt.

It will take a "supermajority" to correct the damage. Unlikely, which means you are all very screwed in a most permanent way.

Yup, it can happen. Misery can be permanent. The ship can be sunk. It's definitely listing severely to one side.

It seems to be the "plan". It's working....all too well.

Careful what you wish for, you are about to get it.
 
londonfog

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PadawanBater said:
So you guys think something magical is going to happen in Nov?

Reps will win seats, Dems will lose seats. This exact same game will be played exactly as it is today, and I have a feeling you guys wont be able to call the bullshit for what it is then because the motherfucker claims the red color.

Cracker still supports Bush...
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I pretty much cancel out anyone who would still support Bush...OK if you voted for him but to still support that failure reveals how blind one can be. One main reason I can't stomach these teabaggers ( unless its for the entertainment value ). They are really stuck on stupid:o.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Yah, if you say it often enough.... it becomes true.

Like govt. health care.

You'll see.... I will last laugh... of course.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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When you sell an ounce of weed which costs 20 bucks for 300.... you are going to make yourself a target of LEO.

Pretty simple.
 
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