Period Blood Buds

Phyto Estrogens
Some people use birth control pills to raise the estrogen level in their plants. This is a personal choice, but it is not mine. These pills are synthetic and cause a lot of trouble for women and generally I have a certain disdain for them.
Menstrual blood, however, is a good source of estrogen and is as organic as the donor. Decreasing other fertilizer levels before introducing blood will reduce the possibility of the blood feeding unwanted organisms in your system. Ultimately, I can say that there is a part of me in every plant I have ever grown.
It is annoying that some, usually young, square men think this is disgusting. Get real. They prefer using bone and blood meal which they know nothing about, other than that it came from a dead animal who had a miserable life and ate less organically than most of the women you know.
Such backwards attitudes aside, menstrual blood is not plant based and is arguably a secondary source to phyto-estrogen. Blue Cohosh is a herb which contains plant estrogens, and I also use this in my flowering formulas. It can easily be introduced in the form of tea, or you can even grow your Kombucha on it.
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WTF??? Who's smoking the period buds?
source: http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/1378.html

**--but im down w/ PMS nuggs, as long as they know wht they are doing

As a woman I wouldn't even think of doing that, if I was a man I definitely wouldn't do that. I mean if you smoked something from someone that used some chic's blood wouldn't that turn your stomach.

Turn the stomach???

Where I live, it would get you shot .... minimum. Could get really fucked over.

Wet

That (using period blood) is down right simply disturbing and disgusting... Im almost puking in my mouth.....

who wants to clean the reservoirs?!

period? why not? you're not dipping your buds into it. besides, they've been doing it for years with bovine blood: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Blood_meal

humans routinely eat blood that's in meat products. think of a nice juicy steak. i like mine medium rare. i like the taste of warm blood and juices. there's also blood sausage, gelatinized blood, i've even seen some african herdsmen tribe drink bovine blood that they tap from the neck of a living cow. tons of people eat blood everyday, probably even you (unless you're vegan). https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Blood_as_food

tons of protein (N), iron, hormones... what's not to like? do you know what the difference between hemoglobin and chlorophyll is? chlorophyll contains magnesium instead of iron. educate yourselves:



the only question i have is how you collect it. menstrual cup?

a more convenient vegan alternative to menses is soy lecithin, which is packed with phytoestrogens. i use it all the time. wouldn't add it to hydro as it causes major foaming. when bubbling up my feed for soil/coco, i add it last and give it just a few minutes to percolate before feeding.

incidentally, humans (postmenopausal women, in particular) use soy for it's phytoestrogens. just goes to show you how interchangeable some animal and plant hormones are. imo, most of the skepticism to bioidentical hormone replacement therapy (BHRT) is from drug companies and the medical establishment, who have nothing to benefit from a natural solution (not unlike medical mj). livestock manure contains estrogens and is used (by humans and in nature) as fertilizer all the time. maybe not specifically for it's estrogen content, but it's in there nonetheless. when you're talking millions of years of plants and animals evolving together in the same ecosystem, it wouldn't be a stretch to think plants can make use of estrogens (and any other hormones) present in the rhizosphere. http://www.reeis.usda.gov/web/crisprojectpages/211480.html

soy lecithin is also packed with phospholipids, which makes up EVERY SINGLE PLANT AND ANIMAL CELL WALL. no, it's not going to get absorbed as a giant phospholipid molecule, but it will get broken down and absorbed. worst case scenario, you get a ton of P out of it.

but, no, wait, none of this is possible! we need permission from all the old school growers on this forum who just can't possibly believe that they haven't thought of this shit in the last 20 years that they claim to be growing. i don't get it. if i was growing for 20 years i certainly wouldn't waste my time with RIU. for what? to stroke my ego? get a life.

enough with my rant. i'm certainly not a grand master grower, but i am smart enough to realize that i don't have to buy everything i feed to my plants in a bottle with a pretty label. sure, i spend some bucks on brand name nutes, but only as a base. all that other b.s. they pile on top of it can be made at home using common, affordable ingredients.

ummmm, how exactly do you collect that without getting your fingers all messy?

no, nevermind. i really don't want to know.

dried banana peels and pee, anyone?

I guess I'm closed minded... but I'm glad I grow my own buds and don't have to smoke her period blood bud.

i can just see jack the ripper plant ) coming out soon

Human blood is way different than animal blood. Hep B, Hep C, HIV, and other blood borne pathogens.... Handling any body fluid other than your own is bio-hazardous. There is a reason why USDA does not allow human blood to be used in agriculture.
Plants have phytoestrogens not the estrogens found in humans. The estrogens found in human blood will not change into phytoestrogen for a plant to use for growth. Phytoestrogens and estrogens are two different things that are not interchangeable. Humans can break down phytoestrogens from plants to produce progesterone output to increase estrogens but plants cannot break down human estrogens into phytoestrogens.
Plus why would anyone that is male want a plant crazy high in phytoestrogen, when you are putting that plant into your body? All that is going to do is cause increase in estradiol and other estrogens which leads to lower testosterone.

bigchingonaboss said:

Human blood is way different than animal blood. Hep B, Hep C, HIV, and other blood borne pathogens.... Handling any body fluid other than your own is bio-hazardous. There is a reason why USDA does not allow human blood to be used in agriculture.
Plants have phytoestrogens not the estrogens found in humans. The estrogens found in human blood will not change into phytoestrogen for a plant to use for growth. Phytoestrogens and estrogens are two different things that are not interchangeable. Humans can break down phytoestrogens from plants to produce progesterone output to increase estrogens but plants cannot break down human estrogens into phytoestrogens.
Plus why would anyone that is male want a plant crazy high in phytoestrogen, when you are putting that plant into your body? All that is going to do is cause increase in estradiol and other estrogens which leads to lower testosterone.

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Admittedly, I have very little knowledge on this topic. Please explain to me then, how using a birth control pill has such a measurable effect when fed to plants...

I would say it's anecdotal evidence, seeing that plants grow from a plants growth hormone auxin (they do not use hgh (human growth hormone)) and very very little from phytoestrogens. If you could push estrogens into a plant it would just cause increase feminization not "growth". Think about a little girl that hits puberty. What is contained in birth control pills is low to high doses of types of estradiols or mestranol which are broken down by the liver into active estradiol. Plants do not have a liver to do this. So you are introducing inactive estrogens into the medium. The bioavalibility of the estrogens to the plant are questionable but it will remain in the soil. Personally, there's enough hormones in the foods we eat and even plastic cause estradiol levels to go up that I really would not want one more thing to add to the bunch. Plus remember the people who are saying that BCP work are not most likely doing a clean study, meaning controls, double blinds, etc...

bigchingonaboss said:

Human blood is way different than animal blood. Hep B, Hep C, HIV, and other blood borne pathogens.... Handling any body fluid other than your own is bio-hazardous. There is a reason why USDA does not allow human blood to be used in agriculture.
Plants have phytoestrogens not the estrogens found in humans. The estrogens found in human blood will not change into phytoestrogen for a plant to use for growth. Phytoestrogens and estrogens are two different things that are not interchangeable. Humans can break down phytoestrogens from plants to produce progesterone output to increase estrogens but plants cannot break down human estrogens into phytoestrogens.
Plus why would anyone that is male want a plant crazy high in phytoestrogen, when you are putting that plant into your body? All that is going to do is cause increase in estradiol and other estrogens which leads to lower testosterone.

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1. hepatitis a, b, c, d and even HIV die on contact with air. also, i'd image that one would be collecting it from oneself who would presumably be free of such pathogens. bovine blood could contain plenty of pathogens that could infect humans as well, especially since anything that comes out of the cattle industry is likely to have some shit on it too. as far as i'm aware, hepatitis and HIV can't infect a plant. so again, unless you're dipping your buds in blood, i'm not sure how you'd contract a bloodborne pathogen that is in the soil.

2. phytoestrogens do not get broken down into progesterone. progesterone is not a phytoestrogen. progesterone does not create estrogen. progesterone is actually a precursor to testosterone and an antagonist to estrogen in humans. in other words, progesterone suppresses estrogen. plants don't create estradiol, thus phytoestrongens do not include estradiol. phytoestrogens are preferred these days by patients and physicians because they bind to the same receptor sites as estradiol without any of the health risks of estradiol, which is the "bad" estrogen that causes tissue growth. excess estradiol = excess tissue growth = increased risk for cancer. as phytoestrogens bind to the same receptor sites in humans as human estrogens (including estradiol), and as those receptor sites are very, very specific, it is a reasonable assumption that human/animal estrogens can likely bind to very specific phytoestrogen sites in plants.

3. female cannabis plants naturally produce phytoestrogens. many of the foods you eat naturally contain phytoestrogens. female cows, pigs, and chickens produce estrogens naturally. many livestock/cattle are injected with estrogens. the male human body naturally produces estrogens and needs them to function normally.

4. why would you feed phytoestrogens to a plant? assuming it can absorb them (which is a debate in and of itself), it would presumably support female-specific behavior: fruit/flower/seed production.

bigchingonaboss said:

I would say it's anecdotal evidence, seeing that plants grow from a plants growth hormone auxin (they do not use hgh (human growth hormone)) and very very little from phytoestrogens. If you could push estrogens into a plant it would just cause increase feminization not "growth". Think about a little girl that hits puberty. What is contained in birth control pills is low to high doses of types of estradiols or mestranol which are broken down by the liver into active estradiol. Plants do not have a liver to do this. So you are introducing inactive estrogens into the medium. The bioavalibility of the estrogens to the plant are questionable but it will remain in the soil. Personally, there's enough hormones in the foods we eat and even plastic cause estradiol levels to go up that I really would not want one more thing to add to the bunch. Plus remember the people who are saying that BCP work are not most likely doing a clean study, meaning controls, double blinds, etc...

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to the contrary, excess estrogen causes lots of problems in girls going through puberty was well as mature adult females. excess estrogen can cause menstrual cramps, ovarian cysts, acne, PMS, migraines, cancer, and all kinds of other problems. that's why progesterone can be dispensed without a prescription but estrogen cannot. it's dangerous. that's also why any kind of estrogen therapy in humans, especially one that uses synthentic (powerful) estrogens, is combined with progesterone to keep things balanced. furthermore, synthetic estradiol does not have to be metabolized by the liver to become bioavailable. that's why there are transdermal patches, transdermal creams, and even injections. if it had to be metabolized by the liver first, it would only be administered orally.

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Thats as fucked up as the woman that was brewing beer with her vagina yeast.

I never thought a female plant would need a tampon.

I typically get hard and turned on while gardening and frequently ejaculate into the soil my plants are growing in.

If I add menstrual blood to the pot is there any chance that it will get pregnant and make a baby?

i wanna hear the sales pitch to the dude on the street corner. "yo dawg this shit got my bitches blood in it"