Persian White Poppies (DWC, and Soil)

2cimdma

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Thanks for wishing me luck on the outdoors. Yea planting aroung the fences should help with the wind I'd think. Who know maybe growing in rough wind like that will toughen them up and produce some stronger opium. Just like the farmer who was really mean to the onion and now the onion is taking revenge on humans by being very strong on some Wendy's sandwich(its a tv commercial I just saw). Anyways. My plan is to feed them via pump and pond water. I too have well water and Its normally around 6.4 outta the tap and 80PPM's. The reason I grow Persians so much is because I have so many friggin' seeds probabaly around 200,000 seeds of them. They are the first strain I ever grew so I always have the seeds to screw around with. I unlike most people dont really care for Hen's&Chickens though. They seem to take forever to grow.

Your suppose to plant in late fall or early spring cause for one the veg on 12/12(the shorter days of the year,winter months). They flower on the longer days of the year, summer days. So if I were you I would plant as soon as the ground thaws out. If they grow a little big and you think its gonna frost just cover them. I substained so damage due to this. I didnt know it was going to get down to 27 F and it killed a couple of the smaller ones. The biggest ones did ok though. Once you guys start growing please post pics in here I'd like to see.
 

IslandGreenGuy

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Thanks for wishing me luck on the outdoors. Yea planting aroung the fences should help with the wind I'd think. Who know maybe growing in rough wind like that will toughen them up and produce some stronger opium. Just like the farmer who was really mean to the onion and now the onion is taking revenge on humans by being very strong on some Wendy's sandwich(its a tv commercial I just saw). Anyways. My plan is to feed them via pump and pond water. I too have well water and Its normally around 6.4 outta the tap and 80PPM's. The reason I grow Persians so much is because I have so many friggin' seeds probabaly around 200,000 seeds of them. They are the first strain I ever grew so I always have the seeds to screw around with. I unlike most people dont really care for Hen's&Chickens though. They seem to take forever to grow.

Your suppose to plant in late fall or early spring cause for one the veg on 12/12(the shorter days of the year,winter months). They flower on the longer days of the year, summer days. So if I were you I would plant as soon as the ground thaws out. If they grow a little big and you think its gonna frost just cover them. I substained so damage due to this. I didnt know it was going to get down to 27 F and it killed a couple of the smaller ones. The biggest ones did ok though. Once you guys start growing please post pics in here I'd like to see.
Pictures, Sure thing, I thinks it even legal. Who would have thunk it, Me doing something legal. I must be getting old. You would think our water supplys were connected. My wells around the same PH, PPM is 95-110. Good water if you ask me. It is perfect for growing pot.
I think Im out of questions for now, but I'll keep you posted on my progess. Thanks again for everything.
 

grodrowithme

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i got all the stuff to start but im clueless as to were i get seeds and i have yet to start reading up on them and doing my homework but if i knew that it would be a good start. i think i even heard someone mention they were growing McCormic just regular old cooking/seasoning seeds. does that work i mean white persian just sound so much bettr than something you get off the spice aisle at walmart
 

IslandGreenGuy

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i got all the stuff to start but im clueless as to were i get seeds and i have yet to start reading up on them and doing my homework but if i knew that it would be a good start. i think i even heard someone mention they were growing McCormic just regular old cooking/seasoning seeds. does that work i mean white persian just sound so much bettr than something you get off the spice aisle at walmart
I see your alot like me. Page Two of this thread answers your where to buy question. ethnobotanicals.com was mentioned, I used them to place my order. But there are tons of other places out there. I think as far as trusted sites ethnobotanicals.com is the way to go though.
 

2cimdma

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Yes you can do 18/6 but you'll end up with little poppys. They'll be about a foot and a half tall. They will produce opium though
 

IslandGreenGuy

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So, they won't produce pods while growing on 12/12 lighting right? Once you switch them to 24hrs on they will. Is this a good technique?
 

grodrowithme

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im assuming this. they veg on 12/12 and they flower on 18/6. so i would guess you could change from 12/12 to 24/0 and they would probably flower earlier and sooner. i remember on a page or 2 back it was said you can put them on 24/0 as for results let me know.
 

IslandGreenGuy

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im assuming this. they veg on 12/12 and they flower on 18/6. so i would guess you could change from 12/12 to 24/0 and they would probably flower earlier and sooner. i remember on a page or 2 back it was said you can put them on 24/0 as for results let me know.

I wouldn't see why not. Thats what I'm gonna have to do anyway. I going to put them in my pot Veg room to flower and my flower room for them to veg. sounds kind of funny actully.
 

2cimdma

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Yep thats what I do alot of time. That seedlings in this grow are in my weed flower room right now. I'm gonna take some more pics tomorrow after I transplant them. The roots have been poking out of the pellets for a few days now but I just havent time to move them to bigger pots.
 

scragelynugz

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Hey I don't know if you talked about the specifics of growing earlier and I just missed it but I heard that the poppy seeds have to freeze before you germinate them. Is this true?
 

2cimdma

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nope not true. I have taken them directly out of the pod and immediatly panted them and they have germinated. I have never froze them
 

aknight3

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The last picture is of my back yard I got 27.7kg of opium..........Im just screwing with ya I friggin wish that was my back yard.


hahaha thats funny shit, i also wish that were a field close by, thank you for all the information, my next harvest im actually going to start poppies and try it using your info so please finish this thread
 

flashgee

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does anybody know the laws with poppy seeds in the uk,do the seed banks ship them to the uk.would the site you talked about in an erlyer post (ethnobotanicals.com) ship seeds over here. what are the chances of the poppys growing outside in the uk and if the will when to plant them and how long till harvest.
 

2cimdma

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I finally transplanted them lastnight. I put most in peat pots cause some of these will probably be transplanted outside depending on space issues. This is all because of a bold move by my evil wife. She has reclaimed my poppy growroom except for a corner of it. Anyways I also thinned most of them 1 per pellet(the peat pellet they were atarted in). A few I thinned somewhat but I havent chosen which ones to keep yet. In about another week I'll thin out the rest cause they will be easier to tell which ones are the strongest. Still no fertilizer. I will start a very week solution probably next week. Also in a few days Im going to be making some more tea with some Tasmainians and I will show pics and tell you what Im doing step by step. Basically an illustrated cooking show.
 

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2cimdma

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Im not sure of the laws in the UK. In the US they are completly legal. I'm guessing that the sites I listed earlier would send them. They probably are legal for you to get there. I dont really know of anywhere they arent. They are grown alot in garden just cause of there beauty and the seed are also used in cooking/baking.
 

scragelynugz

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This is from wikipedia

In the United States, opium is listed as a Schedule 2 controlled substance by the Drug Enforcement Administration. In addition, "Opium poppy and poppy straw" are also prohibited.[3] However, this is not typically enforced for poppies grown or sold for ornamental or food purposes.[1] There is a common misconception that there is a clear distinction between poppies useful for opium extraction and ornamental or food poppies. It is not difficult to manufacture opium tea with a high morphine content from opium flowers readily available at flower shops.[4][5][6]

So i'm guessing its legal up until the point you slice em open for opium
 
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