Pest Infestation, or Nute Related? Found One Little Booger!! Pics

There are some Nute deficiencies going on, but I am concerned about this odd sandy color & leaves distorting in odd ways + some drying out/turning crispy. Brought home some clones a couple weeks ago and noticed the blue dreams looked weird (Leaves hooking downwards as if N toxicity or something?- as shown in Pics, but it was yellowing other leaves sucking the N out of them) Sprayed w/ azamax before bringing them inside & been spraying once/week since. At first I thought it was just not acclimated well(because of the blue dream leaves cupping down wards/doing the claw thing?), but now I don't know

Put sticky traps down last night & found one little pest, but it is WAY too small for me to identify and moved recently so still not able to find microscope/magnifying glass. I'll post pics anyways. Maybe an aphid?

Oh, and forgot to mention, I looked them over for like 2 hours before putting up sticky traps.. Saw nothing.

Don't want to bore you with details, if need to know anymore, let me know please.

I appreciate any & all help!

Forget about the bugs, that is not your issue. They look way over-fed. What are your ppms on nutrient solution or run off?

Thank you, that is such a relief to hear!

Just recently started experimenting with Roots Organics soil line.

I am trying to learn here which is why I ask.. This one is not deficient in magnesium? Toxicity as well? (R/O water w/ no supplements yet) Only 2 of the plants have been fed, not this one.
Ppm Runoff=655
Ppm Nutrient Solution=280 (1/4 strength)
Ph Runoff=6.1
Ph Nutrient Solution=6.5

Maybe Nute lockout?

Okay, based on this new info I would think you have maybe two issues going on. Roots Organics has some pretty good stuff in it that usually allows a plant to go a solid month or longer before needing any nutes. So even though your nutes don't sound that high, it may still be too much for them too early if you have been feeding for awhile.

The second issue is what is probably a cal/mag shortage from using RO water without adding back cal/mag. I'm not sure if Roots Organic has lime added in or not. But you definitely need a source of calcium with RO water so maybe check your bag of Roots and see if there is a calcium source added in.

I would recommend getting some liquid organic cal/mag and watering them with it until the soil is fully saturated (just 5ml per gallon or whatever directions suggest). I would then keep adding a cup of water at a time and measuring the runoff until it was down in the 400 ppm range. You'll have to watch your new growth after that and see if it improves, going back to feeding when it looks like the plant has recovered and is hungry again.

Haven't been feeding very long (only one feeding), but I did just transplant about a week ago, so maybe w/ the nutes in soil to begin with + my feeding is just more than they can handle now as you have said?

Thank you for suggesting to check the bag for lime.. There is none added :/ Don't know why I didn't think to check that, I just assumed it was in all good bagged potting soils lol.

Will the N in Ca/Mg be too much for them (This is something I have always been concerned about) or is that the reason you say to saturate soil w/ Ca/Mg solution then water til ppm is about 400? Will the Ca/Mg stick to the soil so I am not flushing it right on out of it?

I'm sorry for bombarding you with questions, but if you don't mind me picking your brain a bit.. What is the yellow/sandy color on the leaves from? Also, why are some leaves drying out dead with that yellow margin on them? From too much salts building up & sucking moisture from the leaves?

Well if you've only fed them once, I would just start them on cal/mag and see what that does for them. Most nutrient solutions do not include cal/mag because it is assumed it is present in your water so if you use RO water you really need to add some.

Calcium plays a very important role in strengthening your stems and allowing for transport of other nutrients. Include the cal/mag in your nutrient solution and measure the ppm of it all because it does increase ppm and I know the stuff I use has a bit of nitrogen. Also use a low dose of it just when watering.

Without adequate cal/mag you don't get all of your nutrients to where they are needed and you get that rust color and discolored growth.

Unlikely you have a salt build up from only one feeding.

did you add hydroton to the bottom of your pot? 6.1 runoff is low.some would argue and say runoff is not important but it tells me your soil is being buffered down. try upping your ph a little it sounds like you have some kind of buffer in your soil.Does it say its buffered? I second calmag I would go full strength until you see it green up then cut it to half strength and check the ph of your water and nutrient solution even after adding the calmag. 6.5to 6.8 no higher no lower. get it closer to 6.7- 6.8

soil werks best at a ph of about 7.0 .at 6.1 you'll get nute loc out and no matter how much you feed it it will still starve .

pinkjackyle said:

soil werks best at a ph of about 7.0 .at 6.1 you'll get nute loc out and no matter how much you feed it it will still starve .

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Yes, I know. That was the very first time I have Ph'd my runoff on this grow. Most of the strains I am running prefer slightly acidic around 6.6 & grow best in that range, although I am running two new strains I am unfamiliar with so will have to play around with them and see.

I usually Ph my water if needed & nutes & keep good track of my runoff, but i've been working 70-80 hours a week recently and don't really have time for anything unfortunately so have been slacking off with my girls :/ Guess I just need to suck it up & do everything the correct way anyways. Thanks for stopping in & replying man, I appreciate you taking the time to.

Bugeye said:

Well if you've only fed them once, I would just start them on cal/mag and see what that does for them. Most nutrient solutions do not include cal/mag because it is assumed it is present in your water so if you use RO water you really need to add some.

Calcium plays a very important role in strengthening your stems and allowing for transport of other nutrients. Include the cal/mag in your nutrient solution and measure the ppm of it all because it does increase ppm and I know the stuff I use has a bit of nitrogen. Also use a low dose of it just when watering.

Without adequate cal/mag you don't get all of your nutrients to where they are needed and you get that rust color and discolored growth.

Unlikely you have a salt build up from only one feeding.

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Thanks, brother. I was using tap water & just recently switched to R/O, so will have to get that in order.. Time for the cali-magic!

Dr.Pecker said:

did you add hydroton to the bottom of your pot? 6.1 runoff is low.some would argue and say runoff is not important but it tells me your soil is being buffered down. try upping your ph a little it sounds like you have some kind of buffer in your soil.Does it say its buffered? I second calmag I would go full strength until you see it green up then cut it to half strength and check the ph of your water and nutrient solution even after adding the calmag. 6.5to 6.8 no higher no lower. View attachment 3191398get it closer to 6.7- 6.8

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No sir, no hydroton. That's what I thought, i've never had that low of Ph with FFOF even when not paying attention to my water/nute solution Ph. Just checked, the bag doesn't say it's buffered.. Although could be a buffer listed & I would be clueless. Appreciate the help man, thanks for taking the time. I'll start feeding with calmag with a Ph of 6.8 until the runoff gets back up to that 6.6-6.7 range.