Petrol prices - well worth reading copy&past and e-mail to every1

marley'man

marley'man

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See what you think and pass it on if you agree with it

We are hitting 123.9 a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying 2.00 a ltr. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certainday campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn'tcontinue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT,whoever
thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.

Please read it and join in!

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned usto think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to takeaggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place
not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, weconsumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see theprice of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not
purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.


If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!

Now, don't wimp out at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send ittoat least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to atleast ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the
message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reachedover THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and
pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... ..

THREE HUNDRED MILLIONPEOPLE!!!

Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(andnot buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of ussends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt,
all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within thenext 8days!!! Acting together we can make a difference . If this makes
sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE
It's easy to make this happen. forward this email, and buy yourpetrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc. i.e.boycott BP and Esso.

rep please
 
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ViRedd

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~lol~ ... So, you want Esso to sell to the Chinese and the Indians, the gasoline that would normally go to you? In your country, about half of what you pay for "petrol" goes for taxes. But then, you make up for it with your "free" medical system. :roll:

Vi
 
medicineman

medicineman

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ViRedd said:
~lol~ ... So, you want Esso to sell to the Chinese and the Indians, the gasoline that would normally go to you? In your country, about half of what you pay for "petrol" goes for taxes. But then, you make up for it with your "free" medical system. :roll:

Vi
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Yeah and we don't even have that here in the "richest" country on the planet, Shameful.
 
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HotNSexyMILF

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The gas is going to prolly level off and go down a bit after the summer this year anyways.. the gas will be hiked even higher next summer... unless of course we attack Iran.. then it'll just keep going up..

All the gas companies are owned by the same head honchos anyways..
 
DMGIX

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ViRedd said:
~lol~ ... So, you want Esso to sell to the Chinese and the Indians, the gasoline that would normally go to you? In your country, about half of what you pay for "petrol" goes for taxes. But then, you make up for it with your "free" medical system. :roll:

Vi
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This link shows an example on what we pay in the UK. Duty goes up with increases in product price. Shitty thing is VAT is added to the total not the price of the product.

Price of Petrol in the UK - PetrolPrices.com
 
cocoxxx

cocoxxx

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has anyone noticed a significent rise in there electric bills compared to this time last year???
 
DMGIX

DMGIX

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cocoxxx said:
has anyone noticed a significent rise in there electric bills compared to this time last year???
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yep, there going up 40%(UK) by the end of the year. Taking average family bill to £1400pa....WTF? god know what gonna happen to gas bills?:spew:
 
medicineman

medicineman

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Hey, has anyone but CEOs gotten a significant raise in the last 12 months, hell has anyone gotten a raise period? My theory: every time something goes up, we should get a comparable raise, let's try and sell that Idea,~LOL~.
 
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pandabear

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think about it like this, prices are high because of Chinas usage. however China does not want the USA and any other country to hurt finacially because instead of buying chinese products all our money will go to the oil companies.

China just announced that is it going to begin taxing gasoline & oil to reduce chinese demand so the prices will go down.

If China is with us, then who could be against us?:blsmoke:


u never want your customer to be broke right? thats 101 dealing

if your best customers money is going else where and you have a way to stop that , you definatly will cuz you want you customers to spend thier money on you, specially when your customer would prefer to spend the money on you:mrgreen:

any 2 bit dealer knows that:mrgreen:


now you are saudi arabia sure you love makin all this money in the high price of oil but if you over charge your customer too long they will start looking for and finding alternatives. so even they are with us and want to drop the price for fear of losing thier best customers:blsmoke:


therefore oil prices will crash by spring when obama takes office because there will be no wars. (or presumably no war and thats all it will take)
 
pandabear

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plus if you wanna do that boycott as per the post I think the email should be catered to Americans since they use the most oil.
 
Twistyman

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medicineman said:
Hey, has anyone but CEOs gotten a significant raise in the last 12 months, hell has anyone gotten a raise period? My theory: every time something goes up, we should get a comparable raise, let's try and sell that Idea,~LOL~.
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I'll tell you Mr. MM..the only raise I get is how far they push it in.........
I'm fed up paying taxes and then giving subsidies & incentives to oil companies, only to get hit by high prices..I know peeps will say...world market prices.........
well how about we don't put any oil ON the world market.....unless...SURPLUS..capitalization has started the practice of selling off shit to make money so that the people who PAID for it have to buy it back...How F****d up is that ???
 
medicineman

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therefore oil prices will crash by spring when obama takes office because there will be no wars. (or presumably no war and thats all it will take)

I wish. But I fear not. The world is not that simple. In fact I doubt Obama will have any impact on the price of oil. I'd like to see nationalization of the oil industry and removel of profit from oil. It's like any other commodity, the greedy traders get involved and the price goes through the roof. If there were a fair profit act set to the COLA index, then Capitalism might just work, but as all can see, it is runaway thievery, with every thief trying to outdo the other.
 
undertheice

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medicineman said:
I'd like to see nationalization of the oil industry and removal of profit from oil.
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here we go again. if there is a problem, let's just nationalize it. charity, education, health care, petroleum products.... the list seems to expand daily. government interference has caused many of these problems and yet you would have them take over the whole shebang. i suppose then we could all just curl up into the fetal position and let the state coddle us until we all died of boredom and neglect.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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undertheice said:
here we go again. if there is a problem, let's just nationalize it. charity, education, health care, petroleum products.... the list seems to expand daily. government interference has caused many of these problems and yet you would have them take over the whole shebang. i suppose then we could all just curl up into the fetal position and let the state coddle us until we all died of boredom and neglect.
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Look Under, you and Vi are so aligned, with the new laws in Cali. you can get married and live happily ever after. I am not a proponent of the "nanny state". But why should private parties be allowed to take our natural resourses and exploit them to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars to private investors. They are after all the property of the USofA. Oil revenues should be distributed to the people, take out the cost of producing, and give every citizen a share. I'll bet if we took the profit out of the oil market, Gas could be around 1.00 a gallon, sans taxes of course. Capitalism has an inherent evil residing within. Remove the cancerous evil and capitalism would be the Ideal state. Socialized capitalism, the best form of government. Of course you'd have to "eliminate the greedy bastards", that would be quite a chore, the Viredds of the world would hold on to the bloody end.
 
undertheice

undertheice

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medicineman said:
But why should private parties be allowed to take our natural resources and exploit them to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars to private investors.
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land and mineral rights are purchased, capital is expended in exploration and extracting those resources, further funds are invested in refining for public use. those natural resources are of little use to the public if they remain buried. someone has to foot the bill for bringing that gasoline to your doorstep and if they aren't allowed to make a profit at it there is little point to even beginning the whole process. altruism usually doesn't go so far as to insure your right to drive around the block.

those private parties you rail against include each of us, not just some faceless corporation. the investments of millions of people go into the risk involved in such a business venture. aren't they entitled to some return on the wager?

Capitalism has an inherent evil residing within. Remove the cancerous evil and capitalism would be the Ideal state. Socialized capitalism, the best form of government.
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capitalism and socialism are merely ways of doing business. they are neither good nor evil, the evil is in those who choose to abuse the system. it would seem most rational to choose a system that affords the least chance for abuse. where socialism maintains power within a ruling authority, capitalism contains the best possibility for that power to be spread amongst the masses. where socialism generates a population that is taken care of by the state, capitalism demands that the people do for themselves and take responsibility for their own successes and failures.

the very concept of socialized capitalism would seem to be an oxymoron. if everything is considered a part of the journey, this hybrid should be seen as a path from one system toward the other. in this case, from the freedoms of self-determination toward the institution of state sponsored slavery.
 
Twistyman

Twistyman

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undertheice said:
here we go again. if there is a problem, let's just nationalize it. charity, education, health care, petroleum products.... the list seems to expand daily. government interference has caused many of these problems and yet you would have them take over the whole shebang. i suppose then we could all just curl up into the fetal position and let the state coddle us until we all died of boredom and neglect.
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Just for what's needed to maintain ones own existence. You need heath, education, energy & fuels...Holding people ransom to the greed of profit taking people is not right for the things that any person needs & deserves so he/she can work contribute and function in society without being gouged for things that their tax dollars paid for..IMO:peace:
 
ccodiane

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undertheice said:
land and mineral rights are purchased, capital is expended in exploration and extracting those resources, further funds are invested in refining for public use. those natural resources are of little use to the public if they remain buried. someone has to foot the bill for bringing that gasoline to your doorstep and if they aren't allowed to make a profit at it there is little point to even beginning the whole process. altruism usually doesn't go so far as to insure your right to drive around the block.

those private parties you rail against include each of us, not just some faceless corporation. the investments of millions of people go into the risk involved in such a business venture. aren't they entitled to some return on the wager?

capitalism and socialism are merely ways of doing business. they are neither good nor evil, the evil is in those who choose to abuse the system. it would seem most rational to choose a system that affords the least chance for abuse. where socialism maintains power within a ruling authority, capitalism contains the best possibility for that power to be spread amongst the masses. where socialism generates a population that is taken care of by the state, capitalism demands that the people do for themselves and take responsibility for their own successes and failures.

the very concept of socialized capitalism would seem to be an oxymoron. if everything is considered a part of the journey, this hybrid should be seen as a path from one system toward the other. in this case, from the freedoms of self-determination toward the institution of state sponsored slavery.
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hear hear!!
 
ccodiane

ccodiane

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Twistyman said:
Just for what's needed to maintain ones own existence. You need heath, education, energy & fuels...Holding people ransom to the greed of profit taking people is not right for the things that any person needs & deserves so he/she can work contribute and function in society without being gouged for things that their tax dollars paid for..IMO:peace:
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Need and deserve, need and deserve.........it's very telling, to me, and for you, very becoming. IMO
 
undertheice

undertheice

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Twistyman said:
Just for what's needed to maintain ones own existence. You need heath, education, energy & fuels...Holding people ransom to the greed of profit taking people is not right for the things that any person needs & deserves so he/she can work contribute and function in society without being gouged for things that their tax dollars paid for..IMO:peace:
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and what is it you need?

is the government responsible for feeding you, for clothing you and teaching you how to wipe your ass, for making sure you wake up in the morning and get your butt to work on time. these are all necessary things and i suppose it's someone else's responsibility to make sure they are done. all this whining about how society just doesn't treat us well enough is really getting on my nerves. are we puling infants or are we adults, capable or tying our own shoes and seeing to our own needs?

did your tax dollars pay for oil to be pumped and refineries to be built? did your tax dollars pay for the education of doctors and nurses or for all that is needed to run a private practice? until the day that our tax dollars pay for all this and these industries are sunk into the same quagmire of mediocrity as our educational institutions, maybe we should concern ourselves less with expanding what we feel we are entitled to and more with deciding how best to afford those things on our own.

the people are not entitled to comfort, but to the ability to acquire comfort. we are not entitled to success, but to the freedom to succeed. we may be entitled to life, but no one ever promised that it would be a good one or a long one. that is up to us.
 
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