mangerton
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all the organic growers oh here must be sentience if you discovered a different periodic table. i guess all then old sentience have been wrong for decades.
PH dropping quickly, cant get away from 4.6
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DirtyStrawHat
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i had been rocking the distilled water, could be hard i wouldent doubt the bullshit they sell in the store, i gave them a wash and soak in a tote rinsed them a few times till they stopped emitting shit into the water than i let them soak.. all in 5.7 natural ph distilled water..
rustyshaclkferd
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just splitting hairs, mineral N Nitrite(NO− 2) is toxic( except in very small quantities as a part of the nitrification process but you know this), organic N in the forms of Ammoniacal Nitrogen (NH3-N or NH4-N), Urea( CO(NH 2) 2) amazing
all the same or as different as you want depending on the context....
DirtyStrawHat
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Update: I have switched to the southern AG fungicide a few days ago, instead of making the switch to great white orca.. PH is noticeably more stable. the plant has been drinking about a gallon a day PPM is still hanging out around 1200 and has not gone down. mind that im adding litterally only ph'ed water and ph down every day. ppm was 1300 earlier in the week. The water is getting clearer since the addition of the southern ag.
DirtyStrawHat
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plant is frivolous and thriving. growth is green, showing no textbook signs of lockout
Kassiopeija
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true, and in outdoors - not so swiftly washed out than nitrate. and cheaper.
DirtyStrawHat
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rez change tomorrow
DirtyStrawHat
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has anybody used heritage fungicide?
I take it you have little to no understanding of how organic nutrients work?
rkymtnman
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never heard of it.
how's the GFF working so far?
still think your ppm is way too much but i'm eager for you to prove me they can take 2.4 EC
rustyshaclkferd
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when I worked on a greenhouse farm, its systemic, for fusarium
use cease and regalia for PM..dont use a systemic imho
if it aint rated for tobacco or cannabis, i would not use it on something thats combusted
DirtyStrawHat
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GFF seems good for now, very concentrated, got a drop on me and itchd the shit out of my skin... and yeah man the ppm has been up there, i dont want it there.. i figured adding a gallon of fresh water each day would drop the ppm throughout the week and it hasnt really budged, water only became less cloudy.. im not buying it so the pump and dump will be done tomorrow with no great white just southern ag, filtered tap water, and half strength nutes
DirtyStrawHat
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update : thanks to rkymtnman for putting me onto GFF bennys. I havent had to fuck with my rez for a few days now. I still have not changed the rez water because it seems the ecosystem has taken care of itself ( but will still mostlikely be changing the rez in a few days )
ph remains 5.7/5.8
water temp 71
ppm still at 1160 (slowly going down)
no new water has been added, allowing the water level to drop a bit lower
many new "touchdowns" from side net pot rootlings
ph remains 5.7/5.8
water temp 71
ppm still at 1160 (slowly going down)
no new water has been added, allowing the water level to drop a bit lower
many new "touchdowns" from side net pot rootlings
DirtyStrawHat
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Howdy, checking in. the Southern AG is outperforming the great white. Ph still remains steady, i adjust ph MAYBE twice a week on remo nutes. Im running a ZeroWater 2 gallon water filter for all my water. 3x3 is a full house. week 6 reacher's just starting to make an orange hair here and there.
DirtyStrawHat
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Thanks everyone for the help so far
HolyAngel
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so what was your fix exactly? I just had this start happening to me.. Was it just get her into a bigger res and use some bennies? I'm already using bennies but it does look she's completely filled out the entire bottom 3 inches of my 10gal tote with roots.
DirtyStrawHat
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My fix was a number of issues.
1. Change from great white bennies to the Southern Ag Garden Friendly bennies. (the most important change and significant impact on roots and ph swing )
2. Stopped using store bought water and bought a zerowater filter.
3. Flushed the fk out of my medium. I had been dumping stuff down there early on in veg, residue was building up and possible acid rain when condensation would form. I ran my circ pump with clean water with a tube rite into my medium for a day and moved it around a bit to clean it all out, than pulled all that water out and put a new soup in.
4. Bigger rez. My plant was way too big for the 5g gator cooler, i moved to the 15g cooler and made an access hole to control my res to no disturb the roots everytime i want to manipulate.
After making these changes, I havent needed to play with my ph at all for about a week and a half at a time. I use my nutes which are around 4.5 PH to bring my ppm up, and my water is at 7 ph, so when im topping off my ph sits perfectly at 5.7 / 5.8 / 5.9 and stays there all week. extremely consistant.
I will post more pics shortly
DirtyStrawHat
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also got rid of my airstones, i poked a bunch of tiny holes in an airline and capped off one end. snaked it around the bottom of my res
Dream green
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I’ve had a terrible time with dropping ph. In the end by a process of elimination and research, I’ve realised that there were bacteria in there not beneficial ones producing copious amounts of organic acid causing ph to drop. I’ve used hydrogen peroxide 3% at 1 ml per litre. It’s working. The reservoir had also developed a stagnant pond smell. It took me a very long time to realise what was going wrong. The solution to the problem was very cheap and easy.
HolyAngel
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Yeah i had fixed my issue and then it reappeared after a couple weeks. Now PPM's going up real fast too and im down to 350ppm in week 7. Seems strange to me. I also picked up more air stones and another pump as she has completely eaten 4 of the 6 i have in there and I think is lacking oxygen under the root ball. Gonna try the peroxide tonight I think.