Ph off organic flush? Please chime in

waxman420

waxman420

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Ok so here we go I have 12 misc females under 1000w hps. And 1 by 1 they start looking funky 1st one I let it go as it may be finicky 2nd same well after today there's 4 of the 12 that aren't happy. Everything is organic spent $$ on living soil ,e.m. ,kelp , sea water ect. Been watering 6.5 ph aloe /kelp/ e.m. rotating may water 2x a week now .

Today I check ph meter well fuck me it's off by almost 1 so I've been watering 5.5ph doh no wonder they not happy happy happy .

Ok so I made up 5g or real 6.5 checked it twice with kelp and superthrive . 1st plant run off is 5.8 so I flushed 4g threw her now run off is 6.4 . But I flushed out all the goodness I dunno microbes fulvuc humic the water was such a nice brown went from Guinness to Ice tea now. I will probably do it to 1 more as she has stalled for almost a week .

My question to someone with experience and has done something like this before is . Can I just feed the not so bad ones 7.0 and gradually get back to 6.5 or should I really flush the shit outta them all? I was told to use ph water as they are only 3g pots the way it was explained it made.sense.
 
whitebb2727

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Couple things. Run off pH means nothing and will have you chasing your tail. Next is with a good organic soil pH isn't important because the soil will buffer pH. By that I mean the pH of water used. The pH of the soil can still be a problem.

Soil pH swings as it dries for proper nutrient uptake.

Flushing won't help in this case.

Can you take a pic in white or natural light.
 
waxman420

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chasing your tail

Ok I kinda feel like that's what I did for couple hours yesterday. I felt good enough to flip the timer after seeing them today but I think this dosido i dunno here she is.
 
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waxman420

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But mike Tyson looks like he went 12 rounds . And the group shot I haven't decided if I'm going to flip the 1g but there in here to show me some balls I imagine. cause no preflowers so far and they late sundance kid x2 and non mutant pure rasberry kush I think she in front will be flowering tho just to see if she worth growing. Last 4 weren't imo.
 

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They weren't this upset earlier. I'm hoping once death and dosido dry out they will be ok. most of them either got arms lst or topped tonight as clock is set for 12 hours tomorrow. If they look like hell in afternoon I will probably put it off till weekend . They are all topped 2x so I'm hoping I have enough room
 
waxman420

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Do you think this root biotic could have been too strong ? It says add to soil leave it for 24 hours then transplant. I left it for 48 and 60 hours . Other than that after transplant it's been sea water ,em and kelp a and too much ph down.
 

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ShLUbY

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what is your watering schedule like? some of those containers look real dry on the surface to me. if you are letting the pots get really light before giving more water, stop. organic soil requires consistent proper moisture all the time. no wet/dry cycle. avoid runoff at all cost because you leach nutrients out of the soil when you get runoff. if you water and it goes right through the pot to the drip tray, your soil has likely gone hydrophobic and is having trouble retaining water.
 
whitebb2727

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waxman420 said:
Yesterday was worried about death bubba too. But new growth looks ok.
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Put some trays under them so when you water and it runs through it with wick it back up.

I bet you have dry spots. Water more and let them wick up as much as they can hold.

I don't reccomend this for bottled nutes but works great with organics and plain water.

Soil will get hydrophobic if it gets too dry. Peat is the worst for it.

More water and they should do better.
 
whitebb2727

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ShLUbY said:
what is your watering schedule like? some of those containers look real dry on the surface to me. if you are letting the pots get really light before giving more water, stop. organic soil requires consistent proper moisture all the time. no wet/dry cycle. avoid runoff at all cost because you leach nutrients out of the soil when you get runoff. if you water and it goes right through the pot to the drip tray, your soil has likely gone hydrophobic and is having trouble retaining water.
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Bingo. You beat me to it.
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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waxman420 said:
Ok so here we go I have 12 misc females under 1000w hps. And 1 by 1 they start looking funky 1st one I let it go as it may be finicky 2nd same well after today there's 4 of the 12 that aren't happy. Everything is organic spent $$ on living soil ,e.m. ,kelp , sea water ect. Been watering 6.5 ph aloe /kelp/ e.m. rotating may water 2x a week now .

Today I check ph meter well fuck me it's off by almost 1 so I've been watering 5.5ph doh no wonder they not happy happy happy .

Ok so I made up 5g or real 6.5 checked it twice with kelp and superthrive . 1st plant run off is 5.8 so I flushed 4g threw her now run off is 6.4 . But I flushed out all the goodness I dunno microbes fulvuc humic the water was such a nice brown went from Guinness to Ice tea now. I will probably do it to 1 more as she has stalled for almost a week .

My question to someone with experience and has done something like this before is . Can I just feed the not so bad ones 7.0 and gradually get back to 6.5 or should I really flush the shit outta them all? I was told to use ph water as they are only 3g pots the way it was explained it made.sense.
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just reread this... questions...

sea water?

how often are you watering the aloe kelp and em? every watering on rotation? unnecessary if so...

you water twice a week? that seems low to me.

just lookin at them, they look water stressed (the unhappy ones). leaves pointing down to conserve water (slow evaporation from the surface). i mean the low pH water doesn't help... stressing your soil. if you spent money on decent soil, stop pH'ing your water.

consistent good moisture, no runoff, and no pH'ing. three places i'd start right away.
 
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