Phytium just keeps on killing

Phytium hater

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Hi, just loosed a whole crop to root rot, didnt recive my Hydroguard in time..I did trye the H2O2 and
it just boosted up the problem to spread to the rest of the plants..
I did search carefully the net and tryed in detail also the bleach treatment no luck with it eather..
So I had to kill them all...they where in first week in flowering..
Now I have started to see symptoms in the other crop likewise ...did resive my Hydroguard from Botanicare
but leaves are still drooping..
So I grow in Hydro..yes I have chillers so water temps are spot on..2 airpumps per tent 8 airstones per tent..Bio Nova HydroSupermix etc.
, plants not growing only 2 of them look a bit better...
Main reason I was on a 3.5 weeks Holiday and I had a friend to take care of them in mean while..
not to go too much in detail in he's motives but could be that he had a role to play in my plant getting sick...
No I am not going EVER to add any H2o2 to my reservoir or bleach eather..neather of them is a good solution
tryed and failed with them all together big time...
I know there is particular products against root rot like..Prestop ,Previcur N and Tirama 50...
But I am positive that if I would have been here on time taking care of the plants and adding Hyroguard
from day 1 there would't be any problems...now I am just waiting and checking if any positive reaction
is following from my late action in this matter...might be that I have to kill these too ...I am totally not interested
in some pathetic yield..I rather do a Super desinfection on my lab and start ower....damit..
 

Phytium hater

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...and my PH is just keeps on rising like after adding PH- and getting it down to 5.8..few hours later it up to 7.2
the airstones are probably the reason for that also..but withouth them the water sits too still and promotes root rot
conditions...but now nutrients absorption probs might arise....catch 22
 

vostok

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Pics is essential here, early successful diagnose is the only way ...actually its called Pythium (Pi- thim) or Root Rot and as it was so easy to fuck you ..she will be back and soon too,
right now its her busy season, but she would have left lots of spores lying around ready to infect again.
I have used household bleach to conquer her with glee, others have used commercial concoctions to varying degrees of success,

should you decide to start again, wash down all the walls, pots, vent, ...everything with hot water and 10% bleach allow to air dry really well and continue DWC, but if she shows up again in say 30 days ...quit and convert to a soil grow...you won't be the first to re locate you grow due to this bitch!

its important that you educate yourself with this evil, as it was so easy to win for her the first time,

consider adding extra air to the rez and lower or raise you temps to stay out of 'her' temp zone
 

vostok

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Keep Cool guys as Pythium is a mold ...like athletes foot or button nose mushrooms,
the spores are always with us,
but many ..me too
just set the stage by accident for infection
 

rob333

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Hi, just loosed a whole crop to root rot, didnt recive my Hydroguard in time..I did trye the H2O2 and
it just boosted up the problem to spread to the rest of the plants..
I did search carefully the net and tryed in detail also the bleach treatment no luck with it eather..
So I had to kill them all...they where in first week in flowering..
Now I have started to see symptoms in the other crop likewise ...did resive my Hydroguard from Botanicare
but leaves are still drooping..
So I grow in Hydro..yes I have chillers so water temps are spot on..2 airpumps per tent 8 airstones per tent..Bio Nova HydroSupermix etc.
, plants not growing only 2 of them look a bit better...
Main reason I was on a 3.5 weeks Holiday and I had a friend to take care of them in mean while..
not to go too much in detail in he's motives but could be that he had a role to play in my plant getting sick...
No I am not going EVER to add any H2o2 to my reservoir or bleach eather..neather of them is a good solution
tryed and failed with them all together big time...
I know there is particular products against root rot like..Prestop ,Previcur N and Tirama 50...
But I am positive that if I would have been here on time taking care of the plants and adding Hyroguard
from day 1 there would't be any problems...now I am just waiting and checking if any positive reaction
is following from my late action in this matter...might be that I have to kill these too ...I am totally not interested
in some pathetic yield..I rather do a Super desinfection on my lab and start ower....damit..
one word bro fongarid will fix your issue asap we use to swaer by hydroguard but fonga will protect and kill and rot disorder there is even i have seen plants 10 parts fucked stinking brown roots falling off brown fucked leaves 1 dose of fonga and a hit of go green looked like new plants
 

Phytium hater

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Oh wau lots of great replays..cheers guys....so that Fongarid sounds great.....one of the main reasons of getting
root rot has been my Holiday...same water for nearly a month without bubblers ,now I have bubblers but its too late...washing the reservoir is Super hard and time consuming middle of growing period...140 L. tank and all the parts of the whole Wilma system would needed to taken a part and cleaned and plants would sit somewhere waiting...did it well for the other system at it took like 4 hours to get everything disinfected (I hope I did) after I decided to kill the plants...its possible that these plant what have stunted wouldn't even become anything much anyway even doing that ,and putting everything back in place and trying to continue...and yeah in all the exitement I misspelled the pythium ..(even on my Avatar...uuups, and now it can't be modified anymore)
I could take pics but I think they wouldn't be right now much of help, since I have tryed adding the Hydroguard and the beast is just laughing and keeps on progressing....I think that even at this point going and doing the major system disassembly and wash it wouldn't help much because I have 11 L. pots plants in big rockwool cubes and pot full of hydro clay balls...
so the big part of the rotting is allready happening in the pot and cleaning outside wouldn't clean enough and I can't start pulling the plants apart middle of the growht...shitt,shitt shitt..
So I could take clones from the biggest plant but I am afraid it too has allready the devil inside it also and I would just carry the beast to the following crops too...
 
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Phytium hater

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Ordered Pythoff from UK...so in a future if getting this problem even if using beneficial fungi, then just changing the course and
kill everything By adding Pythoff to the system....and nuke the bastards.

Any thoughts of Fongaride vs Pythoff , Fongaride not available in Europe, can be ordered but
more hassle....

So as the future for me , I would prefer to carry on in hydro, and no it is probably not possible to remove all the spores, and I don't want to throw my equipment away.
But people who have saved their crops have been doing so by just cleaning their reservoir middle of growth if getting signs of root rot ,and most likely some spores have remained in system but crops have pulled it off and recovered.
So starting a new batch would be the big question to start A) fully synthetic and run Pythoff in system from early days already .
or B) start a new one with normal nutes what ever and run with preventing measure beneficial
fungi like Hydroguard, and only if problem still would arise then use Pythoff..
I personally would vote for the option B.

And if all goes to shitt anyway again so would growing in coco and perlite mixture prevent the root rot. Starting carrying 220 L. of soil discreetly after all the the other running with huge loads of things is not really appealing + to get rid of the waste again same shitt...
nobody has that heavy trash lol...

P.S. if I take clones from the biggest plants who for sure are infected in some measure also allready, so would the clones carry the same probs or would they with a fresh start and preventative measures as stated above live a happy and healthy life..?
 
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