jamesmadison
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Hey, I know you have probably been asked this a few times but what strain you growin? What nutrients, cuz I am using the coco soil too? Are you using CO2? That is a great crop though!
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Valhalla Seeds
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Just wondering how you feel about growing using vertically hanging lights instead of horizontal? way I see it horizontally your growing more of a flat canopy bonsai style where as vertically you would have 360 degrees of bud mass, and take advantage of every square foot available.
M Blaze
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Its an unknown strain unfortunately and I dont use co2. The nutes I use throughout the grow are:
# Nutrifield premium coco blend medium
# Nutrifield coco A and B
# Grotek Monster Grow
# Grotek Monster Bloom
# Grow Hard's Budmeister
# Grow Hard's Liquid Lead
# Pythoff by Flairform
# Sensa Spray
Cheers mate
I have been thinking about trying vertical lighting and I might one day but I will probably do a combination of both.
Valhalla Seeds
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nice, you got some serious bonsai skills I like the idea on keeping the plant numbers low, and sea of greens are the most boring way to grow imo your not missing out on anything. If you ever had 100 kw worth of flowering would you rather have 6400 plants in a sog + clones or 100 trees + clones.. easy answer.
jamesmadison
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Thanks, could you take a pic of the bag of soil you use and post it. I want to see if its the same as I use
doktorgreenthumb420
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lol ok m blaze im am waitin crazily on those dry weights ........i have only gotten a bucket unit to go like 2 ounces dry weight so far .......
lol i know that wet weight directly correlates with dry weight tho ..........lol good stuff
lol i know that wet weight directly correlates with dry weight tho ..........lol good stuff
GypsyBush
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WOW...
There's a lot of PUNCH to your statement...
especially for post#3 
Do I sense .. experience lurking about...
All I do is SOG... it's all I've done in the 6 months I've been growing...
And still, I have to agree with you...
I would rather grow trees anyday...
I have just never been able to make the numbers work for me...
As cool as it is.. and MBlaze knows I think it's cool... the veg part still seems like a waste to me... I can;t justify it... gram per watt...
doktorgreenthumb420
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lol omg gypsy u gotta be crazy u only been growin 6months
u do very well man i been runnin ebb and flow for like 2 years now
i did it with coco tho and it was slower i think cause of not as much oxygen to root area
anyways ...i am playin with aero/nft now and it is goin crazy man
and i know i post this everywher but it is super easy on transplantin .....lol i took a full grown (3week into bloom) plant and transplanted to another system ....lol and nproblems with me pullin root away from rest
basically it is evident that the root system stays nice and compact at least in first 3 weeks ...which if you think about it is when you learn most about your plant goin in ......it is when it stretches and at that time you can transplant it if it grew too much
i like to have a very vercitile system taht can be reworked and replanted if needed ........so far this has been that system
u do very well man i been runnin ebb and flow for like 2 years now
i did it with coco tho and it was slower i think cause of not as much oxygen to root area
anyways ...i am playin with aero/nft now and it is goin crazy man
and i know i post this everywher but it is super easy on transplantin .....lol i took a full grown (3week into bloom) plant and transplanted to another system ....lol and nproblems with me pullin root away from rest
basically it is evident that the root system stays nice and compact at least in first 3 weeks ...which if you think about it is when you learn most about your plant goin in ......it is when it stretches and at that time you can transplant it if it grew too much
i like to have a very vercitile system taht can be reworked and replanted if needed ........so far this has been that system
GypsyBush
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started as soon as I could walk again... built that whole room alone on crutches... mind you there are 35 steps to the op... oh yeah and it was 2 crutches... bad leg in the air...
Yeeehaawww!!!!
As my buddy said...
"Nothing Gypsy can't do with a leg tied behind is back...
"..except maybe STFU...
Valhalla Seeds
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WOW...
There's a lot of PUNCH to your statement...
Do I sense .. experience lurking about...
All I do is SOG... it's all I've done in the 6 months I've been growing...
And still, I have to agree with you...
I would rather grow trees anyday...
I have just never been able to make the numbers work for me...
As cool as it is.. and MBlaze knows I think it's cool... the veg part still seems like a waste to me... I can;t justify it... gram per watt...
I do my homework on commercial setups, but I grow outdoors mainly. Maybe one day I will get to experience some major flower power, but for now I make due with that big nuclear fusion reactor in the sky we like to call the sun.
SOG will definitely get you your yield when dialed in with fast turn around time but our brain requires us to go bigger and better not smaller and numerous. My mindset was more in SOG a couple months ago but more recently ive been doing the math and have been experiencing very very high numbers of plants myself personally and its been very very tough on the nerves..sometimes enough is enough and you gotta grow smarter.
(im crossing my fingers for now)
Valhalla Seeds
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I hear you.. it's the same I hear from everybody that knows...
But aside from "plant numbers"... is it more efficient than SOG..
day in day out?
I just cannot find numbers that debunk SOG...
A SOG done in hydro or soil bed or perlite/vermic bed will out perform any other method besides vertical sog. A little quote to maximize yield.
"Pruning all depends on how closely your growing them together and how much shade is on the flowers. don't let any of your flowers get shaded. lollipop around days 12 to 16, and prune fan leaves around day 14 to 16 and again around day 30 to 35. Sometimes if they are shading again prune a bit near the end too around day 45 to 55 if they need it again."
But.. obviously the plant numbers get rediculously high like 64-100 plants per 1000 w light which adds up rediculously fast and makes cloning a job in itself, but atleast your yielding and trimming easy ass colas though.
GypsyBush
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I run 48 loliies per 600... x4 plus "corner plants"... I know what you mean...
I really want to switch... but 5 months without a harvest.... that would require MAJOR PLANNING...
especially since I am on a daily schedule... as Al put it...
plus "corner plants"... I know what you mean...
I really want to switch... but 5 months without a harvest.... that would require MAJOR PLANNING...
especially since I am on a daily schedule...
as Al put it... zip-a-day-doo-dah!
headbandrocker
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lookin good bro,
Cant wait for the weight!
how many watts you using?
Cant wait for the weight!
how many watts you using?
M Blaze
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This is the Coco mix that I use and here is a link with more info about it: http://www.nutrifield.com.au/mediums/nf-coco-bags/
They are taking there time to dry so im still waiting aswell
2400 watts
Gypsy if you get 2 rooms going then you could be harvesting a heap every 8 weeks or so but you got it all goin on the way your doin it and if your happy with it then why change?
This is the Coco mix that I use and here is a link with more info about it: http://www.nutrifield.com.au/mediums/nf-coco-bags/
They are taking there time to dry so im still waiting aswell
2400 watts
Gypsy if you get 2 rooms going then you could be harvesting a heap every 8 weeks or so but you got it all goin on the way your doin it and if your happy with it then why change?
M Blaze
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I find it a lot of fun growing trees and watching them grow. This is the first time ive actually kept a journal and taken pics so its been even more fun looking back to see how much they had grown and changed. I like changing the way the plant grows by creating these monsters and training them to grow the way I want them to. Lots of fun.
M Blaze
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Ever hear a Gypsy say fuck it?!?!?!
I gotta do a bit of training though...
Hahaha yeah bro thats the way
. How long you been hiding that one from me for ? Could do with a good trimming too along with the training .This is how much I trim off the tops of the plant to get those massive colas. You know how much I trim off the lower parts of the plant so here is an example of how much I trim off the main colas, some call me crazy for doin this but hey it works for me
.This is one of the main branches which will end up with multiple big colas.
