Pineapple Express G13 Lab's Seed to Harvest

jimbizzzale67123

jimbizzzale67123

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Very nice scotty I was debating on getting that vanialla kush I saw it was like the number 2 bought seed for a while and I have never grown a kush strain before. I am ordering my seeds in a month so hopefully you are done by then and let me know how amazing she is. It seems like your buds are taller then they were last time is this due to strain or did you let them get a little bigger. Also I noticed you dont have any fans blowing on them and you didn't encounter any mold problems in your grows. Is it extremely windy in their, because I was concerned about the amount of bud sites I have and a mold possibility. I am going to focus on making sure they aren't right next to each other that should keep them safe from mold.
 
frogster

frogster

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Scotty,awesome pics. You fill those nets out so well.... can you give a rundown on your method? Do you just keep pushing them under, do you top or fim them at all? ,,,, I have read this journal 5 times , just want a little more info on your scrog work.. thx.
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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Serapis said:
Very healthy looking plant. Damn you are on it... didn't Vanilla Kush JUST win the 2010 Cannabis Cup?
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Yes I beleave it was runner up however most pepole think it should have won.. maybe it did win I cant remember but it should be kick ass either way ;)

jimbizzzale67123 said:
Very nice scotty I was debating on getting that vanialla kush I saw it was like the number 2 bought seed for a while and I have never grown a kush strain before. I am ordering my seeds in a month so hopefully you are done by then and let me know how amazing she is. It seems like your buds are taller then they were last time is this due to strain or did you let them get a little bigger. Also I noticed you dont have any fans blowing on them and you didn't encounter any mold problems in your grows. Is it extremely windy in their, because I was concerned about the amount of bud sites I have and a mold possibility. I am going to focus on making sure they aren't right next to each other that should keep them safe from mold.
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Yes they are taller and no same amount of vege time... remember all strains are diferent animals... and yes I have a shit load of air moving threw the cab wich is a must 450 cfm unrestricted unless company is over and I throw on a carbon scruber.. and yes there are tons of fan leaves I dont cut them off .. the leaves are very sativa like and skinny unlike the super indica dominate PE I recently grew.

frogster said:
Scotty,awesome pics. You fill those nets out so well.... can you give a rundown on your method? Do you just keep pushing them under, do you top or fim them at all? ,,,, I have read this journal 5 times , just want a little more info on your scrog work.. thx.
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I topped this one right below the screen.. somtimes I top, somtimes they break on there own, somtimes I do nothing but tuck braches and no topping.. but for this one I topped just below the screen..

growalater said:
Looking good scotty. Stop in and check on mine sometime https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/380829-pineapple-express-kandy-kush-hydro-8.html
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Ill check it out ;)
 
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Crystal Toy

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SCOTTYBALLS said:
IMO its the best hydro system out there Ive done custom built High pressure Aeroponics you name it, nothing has out performed it yet. I have had 15 oz yeilds on a regular with one water farm, 400w hps and one plant.

It works by pumping air in a tube witch makes bubbles the bubbles push water up the tube pushing water with it.. the water enters the drip ring spiting water and air.. I think the reason they work so well is 90% of oxygen in water is picked up threw the surface layer of the water.. well all the water that drips over the hydroton is all surface water.. so its really oxygenated... great system I end up with a brick of roots in the top bucket and a brick or roots in the lower bucket when its done..

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SCOTTY great grow, love how it's all done, but don't understand how air is connected so air/water are pushed or pull to the drippers ( thinking of building one myself ) a pic and instructions would be greatly appreciated. anyone may anwser, Thanks inadvance
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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You cant tell by that picture... the air tube from the pump runs down the side of the water tube and enters in the bottom of the water tube.. water enters the the tube and as the air tube pumps air bubbles in the tube .. the bubbles push water up the water tube.. thats how it works cause air is lighter then water.. its really simple but hard a shit to explain..
 
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Crystal Toy

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SCOTTYBALLS said:
You cant tell by that picture... the air tube from the pump runs down the side of the water tube and enters in the bottom of the water tube.. water enters the the tube and as the air tube pumps air bubbles in the tube .. the bubbles push water up the water tube.. thats how it works cause air is lighter then water.. its really simple but hard a shit to explain..
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TYVM scotty think i got it will attempt to build one, again thanks and great grow
 
Dayzt

Dayzt

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Hey Scotty - amazing grow by the way - because of this journal I bought myself a Waterfarm as well! One thing I wanted to ask - I've seen other Waterfarm journal online and one big thing I noticed on other journals is that people tend to drill more holes in the 2 gal part of the unit - did you do this? Another guy claimed to get 500% more root mass in the bottom reservoir using this step...thoughts? One other thing - did you ever add an extra air-pump for the bottom reservior and change the timer on it to different intervals during the grow or did you leave it on the same on/off interval?

thx in adv! :leaf:
 
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Crystal Toy

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Scotty - 2 more questions: 1 does the temp. in the res. matter if so how do i raise or lower. 2 gonna put a clone in the bucket, was wondering how long do the roots have to be for them to catch water ( noticed that the center was drying up on top), but put foil over and will see if that keeps moisture. thanks in advance. P.S. sure looks sweet - much respect.
 
T.M.B

T.M.B

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I was a little nervous of my just cracked seed drying up so i made a v trench out of foil and put one end under a drip hole so it drained to the center for first couple days worked out great.
 
T.M.B

T.M.B

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Dayzt said:
Hey Scotty - amazing grow by the way - because of this journal I bought myself a Waterfarm as well! One thing I wanted to ask - I've seen other Waterfarm journal online and one big thing I noticed on other journals is that people tend to drill more holes in the 2 gal part of the unit - did you do this? Another guy claimed to get 500% more root mass in the bottom reservoir using this step...thoughts? One other thing - did you ever add an extra air-pump for the bottom reservior and change the timer on it to different intervals during the grow or did you leave it on the same on/off interval?

thx in adv! :leaf:
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I read scottys journal many times yes he makes many more 1/4 inch holes just remember it has to handle the weight of hydroton and plant.No he does not use any additional air stone but he does reccomend larger air pump.One tip i can give that i fucked up on is I didnt pre soak my hydroton in my prefered ph range first and i have battled that a bit but i love the 1 nute method my pe and sharksbreath are 28 days old today from 1/4 inch tail on a seed and they just hit my screen today which is 13 inches above waterfarms and they are beautiful plants indeed. I cant thnk scotty enough for writing this journal i am using two 400 cmhs for the whole grow so for very impressed.
 
bongmarley2009

bongmarley2009

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You can use CFL's to grow, but if you can deal with the heat, go with a 250w MH/HPS and run this setup. Depends on your budget I guess. Currently got a power kush entering week 5 of flowering under a 400w MH/HPS in a 3'x3'x6' tent. Ppm is at 1200 right now with tap water at 210ppm.
 
wangyunan

wangyunan

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Awesome bro！！ the left over after u chopped off main colas looks still better than mine, BTW, where can I get a screen like that? and just in case the screen comes in different sizes, what is the best size of each hole on the net?
 
wangyunan

wangyunan

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Oh, I forgot to ask, does a aeroponic system sprinkle water 24/7 nonstop or you have to set up a timer for it just like how you do on flowering lights?
 
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Crystal Toy

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T.M.B said:
I was a little nervous of my just cracked seed drying up so i made a v trench out of foil and put one end under a drip hole so it drained to the center for first couple days worked out great.
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Thanks TMB gonna first clone in rockwool in mini version bucket ( 3" pod ) so i can get the roots a bit longer and then put it in the main bucket ( pod and plant together )using your method. was also wondering if I can just put a cutting straight in main bucket and go from there ( veg first then move to flower room )? peace.
 
T.M.B

T.M.B

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i would not reccomend the rockwool you will not need much root growth trust me they will take of in the farm,actually the method i am going to try is first drilling holes in the bottom of my net cups ,then put some hydroton in and placing my cutting in that. I made my own clone bucket and i will be trying this very soon.I am hopeing i will then be able to place the net pot right in the farm with no change in the medium as well as no root damage,I am pretty sure it will work like a charm and the plant wont have to adapt to a new medium.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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I would not place a cutting directly into hydroton. You could place it in a rapid rooter and then place that in the waterfarm. At least then, moisture will be wicked to the stem/roots.
 
Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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it works serapis me and my friend did it with a tiny tupperware that we turned into a mini water warm complete with top drip from the air pump we also ran an air stone in the water because it was a diy version and not as well made as the GH ones are but they were fully rooted in two weeks. Dont be scared to just pop it in the hydroton. I used a powder rootone cloning agent and put a a pinch into the water worked like a charm.
 
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