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keepitcoastal

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sorry to bump an old thread but what was your procedure for changing the reservoir with the scrog net. how do you seperate the two parts of the waterfarm and what do you do with the top part while your changing the bottem??

iv grown with the waterfarm before and i have 2 of them but i dont see how your able to do it safley with such a big plant attached to the net
 

Dayzt

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Hey man - changing the rez is easy with this setup. Keeping about a foot of space between the top of the waterfarm and the screen, you've got enough room to add-back water through the hydroton, straight through the top. To drain the rez, the plastic tube on the side that shows the water level can be bent down to allow the water to completely drain into a low-profile tub or pan. I've got mine up on some styrofoam blocks to give it a bit of height making it even easier to drain the reservoir. I've take all my inspiration from this grow journal and put into my current grow which is 9 weeks into flower.....

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/418227-barneys-farm-tangerine-dream-waterfarm.html
 

kalzium

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Hi !

Does anyone have a clue which PPM scale is used by Scotty ? There is one by Hanna, EuTech and Truncheon which are quite far apart for higher nute levels.

cheers,
Kalzium
 

mr2shim

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Hi !

Does anyone have a clue which PPM scale is used by Scotty ? There is one by Hanna, EuTech and Truncheon which are quite far apart for higher nute levels.

cheers,
Kalzium
I use a HM Digital ppm tester. Cost 15 bucks and goes up to 9990 ppm
 

Kaptain Kron

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remember you get what you pay for with meters trust me im never ever skimpin on a meter again. Heres what i use, Its HM as well http://www.pasadenahydroponics.com/hm-digital-waterproof-ec-tds-temp-combo-meter-com-100/

However that being said i've had very good luck with my HM so far but it did not cost 15$ nor would i ever buy another tester any where near that price range. Out of curiosity though how is their 15$ tester workin i went with the 70$ ppm tester gettin my HM ph tester here in a few more days my 3 way chinese pos from ebay shit on me massively so i've been buyin new testers lately.

Im just gun shy about cheap testers now

I use a HM Digital ppm tester. Cost 15 bucks and goes up to 9990 ppm
 

mr2shim

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remember you get what you pay for with meters trust me im never ever skimpin on a meter again. Heres what i use, Its HM as well http://www.pasadenahydroponics.com/hm-digital-waterproof-ec-tds-temp-combo-meter-com-100/

However that being said i've had very good luck with my HM so far but it did not cost 15$ nor would i ever buy another tester any where near that price range. Out of curiosity though how is their 15$ tester workin i went with the 70$ ppm tester gettin my HM ph tester here in a few more days my 3 way chinese pos from ebay shit on me massively so i've been buyin new testers lately.

Im just gun shy about cheap testers now
It's only 15 bucks because all it does is measure ppm's their more expensive testers have more bells and whistles.
 

Kaptain Kron

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ah i see, mine measures temp as well as ppm and has a button to change to whatever scale ppm i need to run. Interesting might grab one to try for my outdoor grows.
 

stinkbudd1

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Do any of you know where Scottyballz is hanging out now days? He was supposed to have a new thread up lil while ago...If not i was wondering if any of you could answer this question i see great results here using waterfarm style can you get just as good a results using DWC in 5 Gallon buckets with very good pump stone and aireation..and the scrog technique?
 

mr2shim

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Do any of you know where Scottyballz is hanging out now days? He was supposed to have a new thread up lil while ago...If not i was wondering if any of you could answer this question i see great results here using waterfarm style can you get just as good a results using DWC in 5 Gallon buckets with very good pump stone and aireation..and the scrog technique?
Only someone who has done that can answer the question, I'm not sure if scottyballs has. I haven't seen him post here in a couple months. Personally I'd just spend the $60 USD and get a waterfarm complete kit and drop 10 bucks on a better air pump and 5 bucks on a 5" airstone

However to my understanding with the waterfarm. Initially the drip ring is a form of bubbleponics and helps with early vegetative growth whereas with DWC it really goes great for growth once the roots reach the water. So when adding an airstone to the waterfarm you're combining bubbleponics with deep water culture. So in a sense or at least to my understanding once the roots reach the res in a waterfarm the drip ring isn't necessarily needed. So I would assume you could have great results with DWC and i'm sure plenty have but I'm not sure how fast it would grow in comparison to waterfarm in early seedling/veg growth.
 

Dayzt

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Only someone who has done that can answer the question, I'm not sure if scottyballs has. I haven't seen him post here in a couple months. Personally I'd just spend the $60 USD and get a waterfarm complete kit and drop 10 bucks on a better air pump and 5 bucks on a 5" airstone

However to my understanding with the waterfarm. Initially the drip ring is a form of bubbleponics and helps with early vegetative growth whereas with DWC it really goes great for growth once the roots reach the water. So when adding an airstone to the waterfarm you're combining bubbleponics with deep water culture. So in a sense or at least to my understanding once the roots reach the res in a waterfarm the drip ring isn't necessarily needed. So I would assume you could have great results with DWC and i'm sure plenty have but I'm not sure how fast it would grow in comparison to waterfarm in early seedling/veg growth.
Great answer... I learned a few things right there about the waterfarm that I never really thought about before...cool.
 

SCOTTYBALLS

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Hey guys Im still around poping in here and there watching your grows too.. BTW I use Hanna grochek PH and PPM meters. I calibrate them every grow. Some pointers I would make sure to keep any PH meter moist with either PH storage solution or distilled water. PH meters can be thrown off quite a bit if you let the bulb dry out..

Right now im in week one of flower with BlueMystic and comming along good as always I really like this strain.. Ive not started any grow logs and dont plan on it for some time as its very time consuming and ive already put all the info you guys need in this log.. but I tell you what when I get close to harvest Ill throw out some pre harvest shots..
 

Dayzt

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Right on man - great to see you back! If you have a few mins - pop over to my Tangerine Dream journal and have a peek - getting close to harvest time... Cheers!! :leaf:
 

SCOTTYBALLS

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Great answer... I learned a few things right there about the waterfarm that I never really thought about before...cool.
Carfull here the drip ring dose alot more then you might think.. bubble wands in the bottom of the rez will not produce as much oxygen then a system using a drip ring.. The oxygen produced in DWC mostly comes from agitating the surface layer of the water where 95% of O2 is picked up the bubbles dont do much in the water itself.. with a drip ring its going to cycle the entire resivor about every 30 mins to one hour depending on size of air pump.. now that said back to how O2 gets into the water the surface layer.. all the water that drips over the hydroton is 100% surface layer water and cycles 24/7 wich will increase O2 of the water over DWC.
 

stinkbudd1

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Only someone who has done that can answer the question, I'm not sure if scottyballs has. I haven't seen him post here in a couple months. Personally I'd just spend the $60 USD and get a waterfarm complete kit and drop 10 bucks on a better air pump and 5 bucks on a 5" airstone

However to my understanding with the waterfarm. Initially the drip ring is a form of bubbleponics and helps with early vegetative growth whereas with DWC it really goes great for growth once the roots reach the water. So when adding an airstone to the waterfarm you're combining bubbleponics with deep water culture. So in a sense or at least to my understanding once the roots reach the res in a waterfarm the drip ring isn't necessarily needed. So I would assume you could have great results with DWC and i'm sure plenty have but I'm not sure how fast it would grow in comparison to waterfarm in early seedling/veg growth.
TY for the feed back bro may just do it the right way and save face and trial and error!
 

stinkbudd1

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Carfull here the drip ring dose alot more then you might think.. bubble wands in the bottom of the rez will not produce as much oxygen then a system using a drip ring.. The oxygen produced in DWC mostly comes from agitating the surface layer of the water where 95% of O2 is picked up the bubbles dont do much in the water itself.. with a drip ring its going to cycle the entire resivor about every 30 mins to one hour depending on size of air pump.. now that said back to how O2 gets into the water the surface layer.. all the water that drips over the hydroton is 100% surface layer water and cycles 24/7 wich will increase O2 of the water over DWC.
Right on Scottyballz, and thanks for the clarification on the matter....
 

lostNug

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Awsome grow man. Very impressed. I am using a CMH for the first time also, hope mine turns out as good as urs.

So you got 15o from a 400w cmh if I read correctly?
 

mr2shim

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Awsome grow man. Very impressed. I am using a CMH for the first time also, hope mine turns out as good as urs.

So you got 15o from a 400w cmh if I read correctly?
wasn't the cmh that got it, also waterfarm and scrog screen.
 

Kaptain Kron

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yep waterfarm and scrog are very important parts of my arsenal now lol, its about the cheapest way to get a pound with hydroponics i know of. Get a fan a 600w hps (you can do it on a 400 but lets make it easy we are not all scotty lol) some fans and a waterfarm some panda film and your good to go.
 

mr2shim

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yep waterfarm and scrog are very important parts of my arsenal now lol, its about the cheapest way to get a pound with hydroponics i know of. Get a fan a 600w hps (you can do it on a 400 but lets make it easy we are not all scotty lol) some fans and a waterfarm some panda film and your good to go.
600w, waterfarm, scrog and a bottle of Nova Bloom is about as guaranteed to a pound as you can get. Unless you just completely fuck it up. :lol:
 
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