guy incognito
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What's the deal with ovaltine? The jar is round. The glass is round. They should call it roundtine
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ginjawarrior
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nah bovril
undertheice
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bovril is a papist conspiracy
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Heisenberg
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I hadn't considered this. Guess we should just go with Bosco.
Brazko
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I think a case for borderline nutcase is possible but I must admit I've pondered using a similar setup within my household as well for some of the same possibilities. I've only extended myself to keeping Sasha Fierce and King Kong undisclosed but at arms reach when needed but I'll soon be adding to the collection. My access to c4 never seemed possible and I just never considered it but I have in the past taken interest in learning what it takes to become a licensed Pyrotechnician, you know for display shows only. The clock tower would be a great hold up spot but an obvious point of attraction, that's why I decided on purchasing a few camouflaged tree stands instead utilizing the comforts of a heavier wooded area.
I never heard of bovril until now, but I was thinking about how would a flavored angus kool-aid taste....
I think the obvious should've falling on on Black cup of Coffee. It is the Kool-aid of choice for adults...
undertheice
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the clock tower is merely the vantage point for a showy last stand (or in case my sociopathy kicks into high gear), high explosives are surprisingly easy to acquire and i've always considered the availability of and proficiency with firearms to be the duty of anyone willing to demand the security of himself or his family.
mindphuk
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That's gold Jerry, GOLD!
karri0n
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The reason we have failed thus far is because we have failed to establish the best course of action for addressing the problem.
Before we can find the solution, we need to remove any challenges that the problem puts before us. Let's look at the quote:
"no colors any more I want them to turn black"
The first hurdle that we should immediately identify is that this appears to be two separate statements, with the first one missing a subject. We can infer the meaning as the following:
I don't want colors to exist any longer. I want them to turn black.
The request seems to be that the requester wants all colors to cease to exist. Obviously on a global or universal scale, this is an impossibility. So we must assume that the desired result is for colors to no longer exist according to the requester's perception. With this established we can now determine the conditions that need to be met in order to comply with the request.
In order to comply with the request, two conditions must be met :
A. Colors must cease to exist according to the requester's perception, and
B. All colors must turn black according to the requester's perception.
We've now identified the problem as thus:
PROBLEM: Within the requester's perception, how can we cause all colors to cease to exist, as well as make them turn black?
We now need to establish a clear definition of all the terms in the request. Any ambiguity must be removed or we can not accurately determine the nature of the problem.
By examining the context of the request, we can confidently infer "turn" to mean "transform into" within the context of this problem.
The term "colors", on the other hand, has some ambiguity to it. It could be extrapolated to mean "pigments", or it could be extrapolated to mean "the distinct wavelengths of visible light perceived by the brain".
As stated by Heisenberg, if we are defining the term "colors" as "pigments", then black would be considered a mixture of all pigments. If we are defining it as the distinct wavelengths of light that are reflecting off of the objects within the requester's field of vision, then black would be considered the absence of light. We aren't given any data with which to extrapolate the meaning of this term. We now reach a wall which needs to be surmounted in order to pursue the answer further. Fortunately, we do have another tool in our arsenal....
The request must be logical. If the request is not logical, then we cannot attempt to fulfill it in the first place.We can use the process of elimination by making a determination whether or not the request is logical using our possible definitions, and removing any that render the request illogical.
If we define "colors" as "pigments", then in order for all colors to transform into black, we must combine all of them. We have achieved the desired result of all colors turning black, however, they have not ceased to exist. If anything, there are now more colors available to the requester's perception than previously. In this model, there is no way to meet both requirements. This renders the request illogical, and therefore the problem unsolvable.
If, however, we define "colors" as distinct wavelengths of visible light, then there must be an absence of light in order for all colors to transform into black. If all light ceases to exist within the perception of the requester, we have simultaneously fulfilled both requirements. When we define the term "colors" in this way, the request is logical and the problem theoretically solvable.
From this we can confidently infer that the term "colors" is being defined as "distinct wavelengths of visible light", bearing in mind that we are working under the assumption that the request is logical.
We are now able to define the conditions that must be met in order to fulfill the request as thus:
A. All visible light must cease to exist within the requester's perception
B. All visible light must transform into the absence of visible light within the requester's perception
Careful examination will reveal that both requirements have now become one in the same. So we can now reduce the problem to its most basic form:
PROBLEM: How can we cause all visible light to cease within perception of the requester?
I hypothesize that the simplest solution would to be to either remove or shield the light source from the requester's perception.. Shielding could be accomplished with a blindfold, or if indoors, by turning off all light sources and shielding the windows.
If indoors, and all light sources are turned off and the windows shielded, this has the added benefit of rendering any kool-aid in the room both black and invisible, as well as rendering any tacos invisible as well. Using this solution, we have solved nearly all of the problems posed within this thread.
Before we can find the solution, we need to remove any challenges that the problem puts before us. Let's look at the quote:
"no colors any more I want them to turn black"
The first hurdle that we should immediately identify is that this appears to be two separate statements, with the first one missing a subject. We can infer the meaning as the following:
I don't want colors to exist any longer. I want them to turn black.
The request seems to be that the requester wants all colors to cease to exist. Obviously on a global or universal scale, this is an impossibility. So we must assume that the desired result is for colors to no longer exist according to the requester's perception. With this established we can now determine the conditions that need to be met in order to comply with the request.
In order to comply with the request, two conditions must be met :
A. Colors must cease to exist according to the requester's perception, and
B. All colors must turn black according to the requester's perception.
We've now identified the problem as thus:
PROBLEM: Within the requester's perception, how can we cause all colors to cease to exist, as well as make them turn black?
We now need to establish a clear definition of all the terms in the request. Any ambiguity must be removed or we can not accurately determine the nature of the problem.
By examining the context of the request, we can confidently infer "turn" to mean "transform into" within the context of this problem.
The term "colors", on the other hand, has some ambiguity to it. It could be extrapolated to mean "pigments", or it could be extrapolated to mean "the distinct wavelengths of visible light perceived by the brain".
As stated by Heisenberg, if we are defining the term "colors" as "pigments", then black would be considered a mixture of all pigments. If we are defining it as the distinct wavelengths of light that are reflecting off of the objects within the requester's field of vision, then black would be considered the absence of light. We aren't given any data with which to extrapolate the meaning of this term. We now reach a wall which needs to be surmounted in order to pursue the answer further. Fortunately, we do have another tool in our arsenal....
The request must be logical. If the request is not logical, then we cannot attempt to fulfill it in the first place.We can use the process of elimination by making a determination whether or not the request is logical using our possible definitions, and removing any that render the request illogical.
If we define "colors" as "pigments", then in order for all colors to transform into black, we must combine all of them. We have achieved the desired result of all colors turning black, however, they have not ceased to exist. If anything, there are now more colors available to the requester's perception than previously. In this model, there is no way to meet both requirements. This renders the request illogical, and therefore the problem unsolvable.
If, however, we define "colors" as distinct wavelengths of visible light, then there must be an absence of light in order for all colors to transform into black. If all light ceases to exist within the perception of the requester, we have simultaneously fulfilled both requirements. When we define the term "colors" in this way, the request is logical and the problem theoretically solvable.
From this we can confidently infer that the term "colors" is being defined as "distinct wavelengths of visible light", bearing in mind that we are working under the assumption that the request is logical.
We are now able to define the conditions that must be met in order to fulfill the request as thus:
A. All visible light must cease to exist within the requester's perception
B. All visible light must transform into the absence of visible light within the requester's perception
Careful examination will reveal that both requirements have now become one in the same. So we can now reduce the problem to its most basic form:
PROBLEM: How can we cause all visible light to cease within perception of the requester?
I hypothesize that the simplest solution would to be to either remove or shield the light source from the requester's perception.. Shielding could be accomplished with a blindfold, or if indoors, by turning off all light sources and shielding the windows.
If indoors, and all light sources are turned off and the windows shielded, this has the added benefit of rendering any kool-aid in the room both black and invisible, as well as rendering any tacos invisible as well. Using this solution, we have solved nearly all of the problems posed within this thread.
undertheice
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though i would agree with your evaluation of the situation, i don't think your solutions are adequate. how long do you suppose a blindfold would stay in place before it was dislodged, either on purpose or inadvertently? no, i don't believe a simple blindfold would be secure enough to fulfill the requirements of your demands. your other solution, simply turning off the lights, has similar problems. are we to feed you for the rest of your life? are we to wait on you hand and foot so that you might avoid the insult of these intrusive colors? no, i, for one, am unwilling to cater to your desires and i doubt you will find anyone else for such servitude. there are really only two viable answers to our dilemma, blindness or death. it would seem that only sightless eyes can be guaranteed to be unoffended by our colorful world and, since i am unprepared to take your life for the sake of this whim, i'm afraid we'll just have to rip the eyes from your head.
karri0n
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I had considered addressing inducing blindness as a possible solution, but I think it fails for a few reasons:
a. The obvious moral and ethical concerns behind permanently blinding a person.
b. People stricken with blindness who previously had sight often report seeing only white.
c. We have no way of extrapolating from the original request the mental state of the requester, and whether or not they are competent to make a permanent decision regarding their sight.
d. No duration was stated or implied in the request and we cannot assume that the request was for the colors to remain in this state permanently
Heisenberg
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This has all been predicted by Nostradamus.
Whiteness, or the brilliant light, is destined to be eaten by the wolf, or Satan (evil). Even if you choose to avoid the darkness you will still have no choice but live without light because of the wolf they keep in the garden. So black is our unavoidable end no matter if we avoid blindness and blindfolds, because none of us wants to cook.
undertheice
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you really should have thought about all that before entering that post. it was, after all, your request and we are merely trying to fulfill your wishes. so get ready, we'll be at your house in about fifteen minutes.
Brazko
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I think this has been the most productive thread put forth by prophecy I've seen so far but I thought he was talking about different strains of kush. I just put in order the ones I've tried and eventually the one I want to try, but don't get me wrong it has all been very interesting
undertheice
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we're just around the corner now.
undertheice
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knock, knock, knock.
undertheice
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c'mon, open up the damn door. it will only hurt for a minute.
Harrekin
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My question to this thread is...do you have to clean an invisible taco off your clothes if you drop some?
undertheice
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only if your clothes are invisible as well