i dunno about even going to those... i feel paranoid about going there getting stuff for winter grows... it just doesnt seem rite.. not till i can get a actual garden going on in my yard... lets just put it like this, hands down, i DO NOT look at all like i would be a winter gardener, and being i dont have any other winter gardens going, i just avoid it... i get paranoid just going to the gardening sections.. i will prolly send a homie to go get me some stuff.. a non growing or smoking homie, but a trustful homie ya know... call it paranoia.. which it is, i just have a LOT to lose... so... that is really the only way i can say it... if i didnt have this phobia, i would have all the shit i needed rite on hand... given i had the money for it too... but at this moment, i dont have the money and i am paranoid, so i will just wait till i can send some one or it is legal... which do you think will come first...lol....