Plant collapsed under it's own weight.

Cornishi

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As the title suggest, one of my plants collapsed under it's own weight of buds. Is this something I should have forseen? The plant structure has been solid as a rock all the way through and I haven't bothered training them or scrogging them.

Didn't grab a picture as I freaked out and leant up upright asap before rushing out to buy string and canes.

The main cola as retardedly heavy though. Hasn't broken the stem, just folded it like some form of HST.

Next grow I'm going to scrog as it's safer. Regardless that they're auto's.

Freaked me out this morning!
 

Lash666

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do you have a fan in there to create a slight breeze to strengthen the stems? you could always get some string and tie it to the branches to hold them up
 

Cornishi

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I'm adding pics to my journal soon (link in my sig). They're all tied up. Fan has been going 24/7 since seedlings. The main cola on this stem is just retarded though. So heavy. :O
 

Skunk Baxter

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I always keep at least a half dozen 1/2 inch 4-foot long poplar dowels in the grow room, along with a small bag of twist ties to stake them up if they take on an alarming bend. By the time you realize a plant needs to be staked, they usually need to be staked right away. The quicker they're set back upright, the less stress on the plant.
 

Cornishi

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I always keep at least a half dozen 1/2 inch 4-foot long poplar dowels in the grow room, along with a small bag of twist ties to stake them up if they take on an alarming bend. By the time you realize a plant needs to be staked, they usually need to be staked right away. The quicker they're set back upright, the less stress on the plant.
Yup... slight discolouration on the bend point. But the plant itself doesnt seem to have been affected. Hopefully got away with it.

My next grow will be scrogged. Rookie mistake thinking these autos wouldn't put on soo much weight. I reckon they still have 3 weeks at least to go and they're already much bigger than I planned for.
 

vostok

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you can use stakes that may take out an eye

you can pin string to the roof that make it difficult to move u or the plant about

or best add silica to ur water thru veg

and have a good fan with a gentle breeze all thru the grow

ur choice?
 

Skunk Baxter

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Totally agree about the fan and the silica, but there are still times a stake comes in handy. For example, right now I'm running a pretty poorly managed SOG, 26 Albino Rhino, grown from seed in coco on a pheno hunt. Since I was starting with 50 seeds, I knew I was going to have several different phenos, but what I wasn't really expecting was what a wide variance I would have in the phenos. I have 5 dictinct pheno types, 3 of them strongly sativa and 2 very indica dom.

So as you can imagine, I've got quite a difference in height between some of the plants. The indicas are behaving themselves very nicely at around 4 feet per plant (including pot), but some of the sativas are well over 6 feet - or would be if I didn't tie them down. I know, I know, but shit - it was my first coco grow, and I had no fucking clue how they were gonna go all Jack and The Beanstalk on me. They just friggin' blew up in about 2 weeks' time.

Anyway, I have the sativas trained and bent over, but some of them are getting enormous buds. We're halfway through Week 7 and I have one top bud that's about 15 inches long, and another that's 18 or so. Both of those plants are so budheavy, they lean way to one side. So I stake them up to keep them upright, or they would be snapping.

The indicas are stout and stocky little mofos, but some of them still have a tendency to lean a bit because of the heavy top bud. Not to a dangerous degree (they're not going to fall over or snap), but enough that they cast a larger shade footprint than I want. Staking some of them helps keep them perfectly vertical, and keeps their shadows from falling over nearby plants.

I'm embarrassed to do it, but I'll post a few pics. The first one shows a couple of the big sativas, tied down and bent over, and staked up to keep them from falling. The second shows one of the indicas, with a top bud about 11 inches tall at the moment. I just wish this fucker would frost up more, because she and her sister are lagging way behind the others in trichomes at this point. Other than that, she's my favorite plant. And, the third one is that plant's sister in the right foreground, with some skinnier indicas in the background staked to keep them perfectly vertical. If you look in the upper right center, you can see one of the sativas from behind, tied down and staked to stay upright.

Like I said, I'm not proud of this grow at all, but fuck... it's a pheno hunt, so I just grew out all 5 phenos to see how each one turns out in the end. This run isn't really about yield or making the cover of High Times; it's just finding a good mother or two to go forward with.
 

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Cornishi

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So what is the basis of silica? Assume it's main purpose is to bulk up stem growth?
Any side effects?
 

Skunk Baxter

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Yep, promotes stronger stems. The downside is that if you graze on your plants, it will wear your teeth down. That's a real pain in the ass.
 

Skunk Baxter

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No, no, I was just kidding. Silica is the element in grass that wears down the teeth of grazing animals like horses and cattle, so I was just making a joke. But no, it doesn't have any effect at all on the final product.
 

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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As the title suggest, one of my plants collapsed under it's own weight of buds. Is this something I should have forseen? The plant structure has been solid as a rock all the way through and I haven't bothered training them or scrogging them.

Didn't grab a picture as I freaked out and leant up upright asap before rushing out to buy string and canes.

The main cola as retardedly heavy though. Hasn't broken the stem, just folded it like some form of HST.

Next grow I'm going to scrog as it's safer. Regardless that they're auto's.

Freaked me out this morning!
Should have done the dew
 

Resinhound

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Heya op can we see a picture of this damaged plant,im curious.

Ive seen plants with nitrogen claw get weak rubbery stems and fall over.

Im not saying thats the case but im curious nontheless.
 

Cornishi

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Heya op can we see a picture of this damaged plant,im curious.

Ive seen plants with nitrogen claw get weak rubbery stems and fall over.

Im not saying thats the case but im curious nontheless.
Interesting that you say that. Of the 3 I've ran, this one was the only one that seemed to react to an N tox. Battled hard to keep it stable. Seemed to fluctuate between N def and N tox from week to week.

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