Plant diagnosis?

youngjizzle729

youngjizzle729

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Soooo I just started some new babies and they're already having some issues. Not exactly sure what the issue is, but I'm definitely noticing some discoloration in the lower leaves. I would assume this is a nutrient deficiency of some kind, but isn't it a little early for that?? These plants are still seedlings basically. Only been above soil for 2 weeks tops. Room conditions are optimal, correct temp, correct humidity, Ph seems to be normal as well. If not a nutrient deficiency, the only thing I can think about is the light schedule. I started out on 24/7 from day one; no dark periods. I've heard this could be bad for seedlings, but it's never been a problem before. IDK. Please help me figure this one out. Pics included
 

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SnapsProvolone said:
What kind of soil?

Light type & distance?
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I used Vital Earth's Manna Mix. I was told that this soil contained more than enough nutrients to keep my plants healthy for at least a month. I'm using a 600w metal halide light about 2-3ft away frm plants. My metal halide light bulb isn't as bright blue as it used to be. Is it possible that this could be causing the issue. Should I replace the bulb?
 

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I was thinking about adding kelp meal to the soil in a effort to resupply the medium with nutrients. D you think this is a good idea? Is this issue a nutrient deficiency, lighting issue, or something else entirely?
 
Jack Harer

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I see that you do have drainage holes, are they adequate? They look nitrogen starved to me. I'd add a weak fert high in N, and maybe like you said, add s wee bit of kelp to kick things off. They really aren't "seedlings" anymore. That soil "should" have adequate nutrients in it, but relying on the QC dept of a company is risky. Bad batches get by all the time. Go with what the plant is trying to tell you. Fish emulsion at 1/4 strength won't hurt them and could very well help. At least you'd see improvement if it is an N deficiency.
 
crispypb840

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You can try foliar feeding as well. Did you check the plant deficiency chart. Maybe that will help you diagnose the issue.
 
youngjizzle729

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Jack Harer said:
I see that you do have drainage holes, are they adequate? They look nitrogen starved to me. I'd add a weak fert high in N, and maybe like you said, add s wee bit of kelp to kick things off. They really aren't "seedlings" anymore. That soil "should" have adequate nutrients in it, but relying on the QC dept of a company is risky. Bad batches get by all the time. Go with what the plant is trying to tell you. Fish emulsion at 1/4 strength won't hurt them and could very well help. At least you'd see improvement if it is an N deficiency.
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Helpful. I will consider adding holes for drainage and maybe air flow to the roots will improve as well. My last go round I had toxicity issues so this time I wanted to make sure before added anything to the soil. I will do so moderately. Thanx for the insight
 
crazykiwi420

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youngjizzle729 said:
I was thinking about adding kelp meal to the soil in a effort to resupply the medium with nutrients. D you think this is a good idea? Is this issue a nutrient deficiency, lighting issue, or something else entirely?
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I'm sure it's something other than lighting or nute deficiency, it's weird bro you'd thing they wouldn't run into these problems this early... you have the environment sussed too. Maybe try putting it out in the sun for awhile? it looks like there's no chlorophyll (or not much) being produced, weirdest looking plants though.
 
Jack Harer

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Screw the deficiency charts, they are as bad as going on WebMD and trying to self diagnose a cold. You'll end up believing you have Hodgkins lymphoma!!!! Someone here will correctly diagnose the problem if you keep putting good pics up. Your plants aren't gonna die in a day or two.
 
bigrake

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You watered to much and the nutes in the soil burned the plant and is causing the issues its the soil. Let it dry out and water it with 1 tbs of epsom just enough to wet soil with no drainage. Water only when your soil is dry a finger length down after you let it dry out real good for tge first water/epsom. Good luck
 
Jack Harer

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Scratch the Epsom, you don't have an MG def. and the last thing you need is an overabundance of Mg locking out Ca. Right now, I'd let them dry out, and water again until you get run off thru the drain holes you hopefully have. The new growth looks good, and should continue to do so. Your plants aren't in imminent danger of dying, so you have time to sit and observe them. Keep an eye on the new growth. As to why the lower leaves are white? I'm clueless, but like I said, the new growth seems to be coming in just fine.
 
crazykiwi420

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Jack Harer said:
Scratch the Epsom, you don't have an MG def. and the last thing you need is an overabundance of Mg locking out Ca. Right now, I'd let them dry out, and water again until you get run off thru the drain holes you hopefully have. The new growth looks good, and should continue to do so. Your plants aren't in imminent danger of dying, so you have time to sit and observe them. Keep an eye on the new growth. As to why the lower leaves are white? I'm clueless, but like I said, the new growth seems to be coming in just fine.
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second that, dry them out and run through some fresh water. do you have any more pics mate?
 
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