Plant needs help! As do I!

Hey Rollitup, I'm lost atm and cant figure out what my girl needs. Shes heavy into flower and I can't seem to stop the yellowing. I want to keep her as happy and healthy as long as I can. Is this just normal yellowing, Do i need to Give some N or did I mess it up completely?



If you need any more info let me know! I can tell you whatever you need to know if I didnt cover it in the video

PH sits around 6.8 - 7

5gal ocean forest
5gal smart pot
3 cups worm castings
1cup sumatran bat guano (8-3-1)
Also feed with a aerated tea that consist of some castings and batguano. Stopped a month into flower and switched to Bottled nutes.
BioBloom (1-2-2)
Calmag General organics
and just bought some biothrive and thinking of giving it a try next feeding. rather than biobloom

how long has it been in flower? at the end of flower ita normal to yellow on the fan leaves and dye off.

Its day 49 today since I put them in the flower room.

Flush it?

I haven't, I'm still trying to figure out if its a deficiency or a over dose/lock of something, Also she still have a few weeks to go, She hasn't even began to swell up yet.

Do you have reverse ossy water?

I do not, I was only able to afford at the time, a inline water filter that helps reduce tds and chlorine(I think its meant for a fridge). I do allow the water to bubble for 2 days before its used to ensure as much chlorine as possible has evapped out

Im assuming your cleaning your res afteruses with bleach and a slightly (not stiff)abbrasive scrubby?

After each tea I would take it outside and hose out any old debris that made it through the tea bag. When I switched to the Bottle nutes I would end up using all the water in the 10gal tank except for the inch of water on the bottom that doesnt make it through the spout. Ive been just refilling and not rinsing it out.

I would wash it out, and then maybe switch her to a different schedule after you flush her. They sell Indonesian bat guano thats high in p and k needed for this part of flowering. Make a special tea for her because she is obviously sensitive and needing your attention hope any of this helps

Ill definitely start washing the tank out again after feedings, But I am concerned with flushing for if its just a deficiency, wouldn't I just further the problem by flushing what nutrients are in the soil out, and delay a cure even longer?

I really appreciate you taking the time to lend advice I just really want to be sure that a flush is needed, before I do so.

Also the sumatran bat guano is no longer used( Only First 28 days), i'm only feeding with Calmag and BioBloom (1-2-2) every other watering. Next feeding would be BioThrive (2-4-4) if I don't end up flushing.

Back off nutes, just water for awhile, but do they have much longer ? How many weeks are suggested ?

Not sure on the flowering time, The colas are huge but the actual, I guess they be called pistols have yet to swell and densify so I'm assuming 2-3 more weeks. The purple urkles went in at the same exact time and the pistols swole a week or so ago.

Ill go ahead and back off the nutes and just ride it out

Fresh water, good plan. And to help you understand a little bit better what im thinking, i will explain. I believe it is a deficiency caused by a lockout. You have the spotting, the N deficiency except in the veins. My Og cheese finishes in 55 days. I consider it a quick flower since my cantelope takes 10weeks

does it started at the older leaves ? if not , you can rule N def out.
did you already checked your runoff PH ? to have a grasp on your soil ph?
do not give too much Calmag , it will lock other nutes, i actally never used it in soil , and never had an issues with it. normally good soil have all the calmag they need till harvest, as long you keep your ph straith off course.
I just did a quick view again of your fedding , with that mix of soil , and teas that your feeding , i think calmag its a waste of money , and its doing more harm than good. But thats just my opinion.

xxjohndeerexx said:

Hey Rollitup, I'm lost atm and cant figure out what my girl needs. Shes heavy into flower and I can't seem to stop the yellowing. I want to keep her as happy and healthy as long as I can. Is this just normal yellowing, Do i need to Give some N or did I mess it up completely?

If you need any more info let me know! I can tell you whatever you need to know if I didnt cover it in the video

PH sits around 6.8 - 7

5gal ocean forest
5gal smart pot
3 cups worm castings
1cup sumatran bat guano (8-3-1)
Also feed with a aerated tea that consist of some castings and batguano. Stopped a month into flower and switched to Bottled nutes.
BioBloom (1-2-2)
Calmag General organics
and just bought some biothrive and thinking of giving it a try next feeding. rather than biobloom

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whoa! unfortunately you're not going to fix..you are too far along.

my analysis: excessive nute duplication and over water.

FF soil is very acidic with bat guano worm castings already..for shame if hydro hooked you up this way which is not unusual (if that's the case)
then you are adding more bat guano and a bat guano tea..that's a hella lotta bat shit! N deficiency? no..because the first number on your bottle is your N i mean that sumatran bat guano is already at 8..my dear god in heaven!..proper soil ph is 6.5 and one or two .1 can make a huge difference in nutrient uptake. 6.8-7 is too high and it's not able to uptake Mn manganese and Fe Iron. i don't think i saw a PPM meter anywhere..you need one. are you alternating feeds? one water feed in-between normal feed? soil water is 2x week when 1 inch of soil is dry on top just stick your finger in..or lift the pot you can feel when it's lite..you have very erect leaves (are they browning?) and yellow leaves..erect tells me lots of nutes and yellow (specific to your plant) over water.

I use GH Floraduo A/B..it's 2 bottles and it's all you need..dead serious..it's relatively new and meant to only use 2 bottles in your nute lineup..it doesn't need anything else..no teas, no cal-mag, it already contains sulphur which is what one member here calls "soul food" for plants..it's also VERY inexpensive in comparison to what's out there..i was floored when i saw the difference between that and FF lineup.

less = more

you missed an opportunity to increase yield by LST = bend over main cola in veg and dispersing energy to others..wait until they are thirsty and pliable then gently bend and affix with zip strip or soil staple..this is the easiest way for a newer grower to increase yield.

if you want to be near your plants..just pull up a chair, but don't touch

Lysergicpt - The Yellowing Does start with bottom leaves and worked it way up.

The spotting, Has not progressed since I administered calmag. But will hold off just in case

I water one day, then next watering day I would feed. Every other watering I feed. Not every watering.

""whoa! unfortunately you're not going to fix..you are too far along."" This is what I was kinda afraid of, But I will take this knowledge and prevent this from happening agian!

reapersfamiliar - I dont have a ppm meter, thought that was only for Hydro setups. But I will go get one If needed

I was told not to PH runoff, that youll just be chasing your tail for a correct ph reading, just to check Ph of your water, before you water. is this false knowledge?

Also Id like to think that over watering is not an issue, as I do wait till the plant tells me it needs water(I know isnt the best way to water), Will see light cupping on the bottom of the plant before I water, also do the weight test and run my finger across the bottom of the grow bag to feel for moisture before I water. Sometimes I feel as if I need to water sooner.

Im going to just give her clean water from here on out, Hopefully she finishes up ok, If not my big girl is gonna have some airy buds. First time running Greencrack/MendoHaze so its one of those you live and learn ordeals Ill say it again, I appreciate everyone taking time to stop by and help me out. WIth I could smoke yall out, Maybe one day!

xxjohndeerexx said:

Lysergicpt - The Yellowing Does start with bottom leaves and worked it way up.

The spotting, Has not progressed since I administered calmag. But will hold off just in case

I water one day, then next watering day I would feed. Every other watering I feed. Not every watering.

""whoa! unfortunately you're not going to fix..you are too far along."" This is what I was kinda afraid of, But I will take this knowledge and prevent this from happening agian!

reapersfamiliar - I dont have a ppm meter, thought that was only for Hydro setups. But I will go get one If needed

I was told not to PH runoff, that youll just be chasing your tail for a correct ph reading, just to check Ph of your water, before you water. is this false knowledge?

Also Id like to think that over watering is not an issue, as I do wait till the plant tells me it needs water(I know isnt the best way to water), Will see light cupping on the bottom of the plant before I water, also do the weight test and run my finger across the bottom of the grow bag to feel for moisture before I water. Sometimes I feel as if I need to water sooner.

Im going to just give her clean water from here on out, Hopefully she finishes up ok, If not my big girl is gonna have some airy buds. First time running Greencrack/MendoHaze so its one of those you live and learn ordeals Ill say it again, I appreciate everyone taking time to stop by and help me out. WIth I could smoke yall out, Maybe one day!

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i'm mixed on ph runoff so, i would concentrate on the water only after you mixed your nutes..I never did runoff in soil..you can do PPM's with anything this allows you to really dial in and adjust accordingly and keep better track.

not sure how the bud is gonna taste or smoke because it's so overnuted..i ruined my 2nd grow with nutes..1st grow worked like a charm..got cocky, thought i knew? there's nothing worse than going through all and no harvest because it's unsmokable..i kept a jar of that shit to remind myself to not over do ever again.

get to popping new seeds today if you haven't already!

I Have several clones about day 20 into veg, waiting for the green crack and two purple urkles to get chopped down, then 3 more clones will be going in.

trying to dial in a harvest every month or two. 3 sets of 3, all different stages of flower. and clones always ready to go into flower room.

I like that plant though. Its grown veyt nicely