Plant Physiology 101: 100% Germination Rates Guaranteed through ABA levels

RastaLee

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In order for a seed to germinate, many conditions must be met. Firstly a seed must be viable. If a seed is viable it require a suitable environment with proper levels of moisture, suitable temperatures, oxygen, fertile soil, and proper pH levels to name a few. However, as many of us have experienced, some viable (living) seeds will NOT germinate, even when given the perfect conditions. In the field of botany, this phenomenon is known as “physiological seed dormancy” (will be referred to as PSD from here on out). In plain language, PSD is like a “hibernation” stage that occurs after seed maturation but before germination.


After the seeds of a mother plant mature, they respond to environmental cues that signal the end of the growing season is near and begin PSD (hibernation). If the seed did not enter this dormancy phase, it would attempt to grow as soon as it reached maturity in the flower of the mother plant. As everyone knows, seeds in the wild do not germinate in the Fall Season because they would soon die during the coming winter months. So it is advantageous for seeds temporarily inhibit the process of germination because it increases their chances of survival and eventual hopes of maturing to breed. Different species of plants use different mechanisms remain in PSD. In botany, PSD can be broken down into two broad categories: Embryo Imposed Dormancy and Seed Coat Imposed Dormancy.


There are many variants to Embryo Imposed dormancy, but the most common and best understood mechanism involves the hormone Abscisic acid (referred to ABA from here on out). The mechanism by which ABA works is pretty complicated without a background in genetics and biology, (inhibits promoter region of genes in plant DNA that would otherwise result in transcription and translation of growth promoting factors as well as enzyme inhibitors that act on the ABA as well as ABA’s promoter region) but simply put, ABA is hormone that is produced by plants that potently INHIBITS germination and growth. In a mature plant, ABA is produced in large quantities in response to root disturbance/damage, large and rapid changes in temperature, as well as many other stressful stimuli.(Ever wonder the real mechanism behind “transplant shock” or why temperature drops greater than 15F-30F “stunt” plant growth? The answer is ABA)

In contrast to mature plant, in seeds ABA is mainly produced in the cotyledons (1[SUP]st[/SUP] set of “immature leaves”) of an embryo and is secreted inside the seed at a very slow and constant rate. This will inhibit germination. A sharp decrease in ABA levels disrupts PSD, triggers embryo growth, and thus allows germination. There are many ways by which ABA levels can be decreased. The most understood methods include: Chilling, Phytochrome stimulation, and After-ripening.



Chilling is another way to decreases levels of ABA. Chilling disrupting the enzymes that catalyze the reaction that make ABA. This occurs in nature during the cold temperatures of winter. Seeds that have fallen to the ground are covered by snow or cold soil for 2-4 months and disrupt the production of ABA. This can simulated through a process in botany known as “stratification”. Seeds are placed in MOISTENED medium or paper towel and kept in a REFRIGERATOR to simulate winter and disrupts the production of ABA. (Do not use the freezer, your run the risk of tissue damage once temperatures fall below 32F. Temperatures between 34F-40F work best. 3-14 days usually works for cannabis, but some seeds may require longer. The longer they are in cold, the more likely levels of ABA will decrease to allow germination).The seeds are then removed from the refrigerator after sufficient time has passed and then planted with optimal conditions.
Phytochrome stimulation is another method of decreasing levels of ABA. Phytocromes are the main light sensing pigments found in plant tissues. In some species of plants, their seeds require light to penetrate through the seed coat, which activate these phytochromes and trigger a complex cascade of events inactivate ABA within the seed. (This is why so many people argue that planted seeds don’t need light, while other swear that light produces faster germination. The real truth is, a person that has had seeds that were exposed to a source of light intense enough to have the phytochromes activated already DO NOT need any more light after its planted under the soil because the levels of ABA have been decreased. If the light was not intense enough, then it is plausible that additional intense light even while under a thin layer of soil will activate these phytochromes).
After-ripening happens when a seed dries out (water content below 10%), either from old age or dehydration in the sun. (If a seed company sends you brand new seeds that have not had sufficient time to age or dehydrate, the chances of germination are somewhat decreased without using chilling or phytochrome stimulation. Another false misconception amongst growers, is that if a seed company send you seeds that are old, it decreases the chances of germination. It is true that seeds older than 4-6 years decrease the likelihood of germination, but most of us buy from reputable seed companies that send fresh seeds that are restocked at least once every 3 years. So scientifically speaking, seeds older than 6 months actually have INCREASED chance of germination.) To conclude Embryo Imposed dormancy, one the main factor that controls PSD is ABA! The levels of ABA can be decreased by after-ripening, chilling, or phytochrome stimulation. Now, to discuss the last topic, Seed-Coat Imposed Dormancy.



Seed Coat Imposed Dormancy also occurs by different methods but Ill keep this section short because most people know about this. These methods can broadly be categorized as mechanical constraints or chemical constraints. Examples of mechanical constrains include, thick seed coats or waxy coverings. These constraints prevent the uptake of water into embryo, the expansion of the embryo, the passage of oxygen through the coat to the embryo, or the passage of light to the embryo (phytochrome activation). In nature, seeds are subjected to severe environmental conditions. They roll over rocks, sand, and dirt when the wind blows; travel down small streams and rivers when it rains, and are sometimes eaten by animals, eventually pass throughing their digestive tract. All of these physically abusive possibilities would eventually wear through a seed coat. So we can easily see it’s advantageous to have a thick seed coat to protect the delicate embryo. In botany, these processes can be mimicked through a process called “Scarification”. Seeds coats are gently rubbed against an Emory board or fine grit sand paper to thin out a seed coat. This allows the better passage of oxygen and water to the embryo. You must be careful not to damage the embryo!!!
Examples of chemical constraints include, a seed coat that produces ABA (which was explained above), or a seed coat that does not allow the passage of ABA out. This is why soaking seeds in water before germination can be advantageous. The water can soften up a seed coat that too thick, and it can wash away/dilute the perceived concentration of ABA. As ,mentioned before, I purposely didn’t go into too much detail here because most people know about soaking seeds in water and scarification. I just included it here to give a scientifically explanation as to exactly HOW these methods work. It still all boils down to ABA.
I brought up these topics before in a previous post with links to books and websites, but I decided to put it all into one place for others to read. If this helps people out, I can go into more details on plant physiology. I have a really extensive background in biology, chemistry, organic chemistry, genetics, physics, botany, pharmacology, medicine and science in general. So if you have questions feel free to ask. Ill probably be posting more info on plant physiology in the future if I find anything useful related to cannabis. Peace and much love!!
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RastaLee

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Nice "copy and paste". You didn't even give credit to who you copied it from.
I'm sorry professor dadio, please dont fail me for forgeting to include my sources cited page on my final thesis. Would you like in official MLA format or can I list them list them like a high school kid for you? LMAO lighten, man. You obviously need a spliff. I'm pretty sure this is just a forum to help fellow growers and im pretty sure I wrote this in my own words after reading though a bunch of papers. I know for a fact I didnt copy and paste, but Im willing to make acceptions for acusatory assclowns like you.:finger: LMAO.

Public servic announcement to all other ass clowns: I am in NO way shape or form trying to say that I own, created, or discovered any of the information contained in the previous post. My sole intention was share useful information in the community. All information contained wherin has been adapted from and belong to their rightful owners. Except for photocythesis, I discovered that, even dadio can tell you that;-)


Work Cited (just for you dadio):

1.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratification_(botany) LISTED IN PREVIOUS POST

2. http://cannabisseedsnow.com/cannabis-sativa-info/cannabis-seeds-physiology/ LISTED IN PREVIOUS POST

3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abscisic_acid

4.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarification_(botany)

5. "The pathway of biosynthesis of abscisic acid in vascular plants: A review of the present state of knowledge of ABA biosynthesis". Journal of Experimental Botany52

6.Taiz, Lincoln, and Eduardo Zeiger. "Plant physiology." EE. UU. California: Sinauer (2002).

7. Umehara, Mikihisa, et al. "Inhibition of shoot branching by new terpenoid plant hormones." Nature 455.7210 8)

8.
Bewley, J. Derek. "Seed germination and dormancy." The plant cell 9.7 (1997): 1055.

9. B
askin, Carol C., and Jerry M. Baskin. Seeds: ecology, biogeography, and evolution of dormancy and germination. Academic press, 1998.

10.
Frank, Mel, and Ed Rosenthal. THE MARIJUANA GROWER'S GUIDE. London: Atlantic Books, 1988
 

Dr. Who

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Nice! Sticky material!
But in Newbie central?
Most of these folks get cross eyed just seeing the "big words". Explaining in simple terms tends to work better then a Doctoral excerpt...General Growing may have been a better spot for it......
 

RastaLee

Member
Nice! Sticky material!
But in Newbie central?
Most of these folks get cross eyed just seeing the "big words". Explaining in simple terms tends to work better then a Doctoral excerpt...General Growing may have been a better spot for it......
Thanks Dr. Who, I put it in the newbie section because i figgured evryone else has their germination ratios above 80% already due to experience. I mysyelf am new to growing and the forum as well. I know what a sticky is, but who decides which post becomes one? I apologise if its in the wrong forum, ill be sure to "dadio" (aka copy and paste);-) it into the gen grow forum.
 

CokeyoDrips

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100% germination rates from wetting a paper towel, placing it in an empty dvd case, wrapping the case in a towel and placing it on a terrarium heater for 24 hours. I've never had an issue germing seeds and I definitely don't understand why anyone could have a problem. Keep it simple, so as not to confuse the newbies that can barely grasp the concept of watering a plant yet.
 

dannyboy602

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yeah shia laebouf probably thought the same thing when he plagiarized dudes novel then hired a skywriter to paste an apology across the sky. wonder if he plagiarized the apology too.
 
Awesome post man! I thoroughly enjoy every aspect off growing. However, I really do wish I had a better knowledge of plant physiology and botany in general. It's hard enough finding relevant material on the inter webs, but even harder to find something specific to marijuana. I will gladly read any plant knowledge I can find! Thanks for the post!
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AimAim

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I tend to try not to get into pissing matches. Like others I thought Rasta's post was a cut and paste job, but if you Google the verbiage it all comes back to this site and I think Rasta just put some good information together for us from various sources. I don't think he was claiming to be the researcher or author on any of this.

Take time to read it. Good info and definitely worth reading.

Don't bust his balls because he passed along info. That's what this place is about right?
 

RastaLee

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I tend to try not to get into pissing matches. Like others I thought Rasta's post was a cut and paste job, but if you Google the verbiage it all comes back to this site and I think Rasta just put some good information together for us from various sources. I don't think he was claiming to be the researcher or author on any of this.

Take time to read it. Good info and definitely worth reading.

Don't bust his balls because he passed along info. That's what this place is about right?
Thanks aimaim lol. Im new here and im not trying to step on anyones toes. Just trying to demystify the mystery behind bad gerination. It all makes sense if you read it and can look past the big words. Technically, gilligan and his crew are right, I should have sighted the info. I was just under the assumption it was just for info and no one would care.Too common to see people complaining about bad germ rates when they just put shit in a dvd case and wonder why it doesnt work. I def wasnt applying for the nobel prize so I didnt think it was nessecary to cite info. Ill be sure to do it next time.lol the copy paste thing struck a cord though lol cheers.
 

Dogenzengi

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I thought it was good info, it educated me.

The fact that he did not cite sources or he cut and paste the info is not the point.

I Cut and paste relevant info from time to time.

I doubt I cite sources, I'm usually to high to remember them after I cut them.

The point is he took the time to compile the info and post it for us to read.

OP is right, I soak my seeds and I know about scarification, but I did not think about the
cold or the seed having a state of hibernation.

That was in good reading info for me.
 

kinetic

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For those that want more, like the bearded stoner indicated, put 'scholarly article' after your search term. Some will be paid, some will be free. If you want scientific that's one of the best ways to go about it if you don't want to go to Cornell University.
 

kinetic

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I thought it was good info, it educated me.

The fact that he did not cite sources or he cut and paste the info is not the point.

I Cut and paste relevant info from time to time.

I doubt I cite sources, I'm usually to high to remember them after I cut them.

The point is he took the time to compile the info and post it for us to read.

OP is right, I soak my seeds and I know about scarification, but I did not think about the
cold or the seed having a state of hibernation.

That was in good reading info for me.
you and I share alot of points of view. Presenting something as your own work when it's not is something I don't see you doing in mass. I see that as what happened here initially and he was called out on it rightfully so. He also corrected it rightfully so.

Just a sidenote to the OP, I prefer APA style reference style.
 

RastaLee

Member
you and I share alot of points of view. Presenting something as your own work when it's not is something I don't see you doing in mass. I see that as what happened here initially and he was called out on it rightfully so. He also corrected it rightfully so.

Just a sidenote to the OP, I prefer APA style reference style.
Lol Ill be sure to do APA next time dude:lol:.
 

Bugeye

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Hey man, keep stuff like this coming...awesome info! I've been keeping my seeds in a cool dark closet but will move them to fridge if it will get me closer to 100%. Bet I'm running around 90% success and it's always the bullshit $20 trendiest seed that doesn't go for me. Probably the latest strain and youngest seeds. Makes sense to me.
 
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