Plant seems like it’s dying, potassium or nitrogen deficiency??

MICHI-CAN

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Here is my two cents. For what is worth. You are either lacking N or drowning, rotting your roots. Coco retains water. It must be allowed to partially dry between waterings. A wet dry cycle. Watering twice per day is killing your plants. The lift your pots to familiarize with wet and dry weights is good. And your center root mass is much wetter than the surface or top 1" of medium.
 

MICHI-CAN

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Definitely showing nitrogen deficiency, magnesium deficiency, and phosphorus deficiency on the leafs
I agree. OP stated "only the middle down." Said all. Be nice and helpful.

OP. N is a mobile nute. Your new growth is nice color because it is stealing from the older leaves as a last resort. Simply over watering as I have seen and read. Easy fix. Just needs to be implemented now. Roots don't work covered in bad fungal slime from constant wet.
 

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

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I agree. OP stated "only the middle down." Said all. Be nice and helpful.

OP. N is a mobile nute. Your new growth is nice color because it is stealing from the older leaves as a last resort. Simply over watering as I have seen and read. Easy fix. Just needs to be implemented now. Roots don't work covered in bad fungal slime from constant wet.
Very good examples of all three deficiencies in those pictures lol usually its hard to diagnose
 

MICHI-CAN

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Very good examples of all three deficiencies in those pictures lol usually its hard to diagnose
Actually easy. Just need to hear the plants. They honestly are screaming to us if we could only see.

Comes in time. Patience and start at the simplest solution first.
K.I.S.S. is my S.O.P... LOL.

I hope for healthy plants to all.
 

OldMedUser

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So much difference of opinions with coco. Most of the stuff I've read from excellent coco growers is multiple waterings every day and some of the best are drain to waste systems with many feeds per day.

I run peat based ProMix HP and do soak well then allow the pots to dry right out before soaking again but have started watering a bit sooner and the plants seem to like that better. Feeding lower amounts more often also seems to keep them happier than the water-feed-water-feed thing. Using 3-part AN or REMO nutes for that. Lucas style after the stretch.

Coco always seemed like a lot more hassle, costs twice as much and not available locally where ProMix products are everywhere here during the season then gone until spring.

Definitely looks like you need a good feeding of the full monty. Lucas formula is better after the stretch to get the N-P-K- ratio swung over more to the P-K side and keep N levels a little lower so it doesn't retard flower growth. Still needs some N but lots less than veg or stretch. Needs lots in stretch but lots of the others too.

Doesn't look fatal! ;)

:peace:
 

MICHI-CAN

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So much difference of opinions with coco. Most of the stuff I've read from excellent coco growers is multiple waterings every day and some of the best are drain to waste systems with many feeds per day.

I run peat based ProMix HP and do soak well then allow the pots to dry right out before soaking again but have started watering a bit sooner and the plants seem to like that better. Feeding lower amounts more often also seems to keep them happier than the water-feed-water-feed thing. Using 3-part AN or REMO nutes for that. Lucas style after the stretch.

Coco always seemed like a lot more hassle, costs twice as much and not available locally where ProMix products are everywhere here during the season then gone until spring.

Definitely looks like you need a good feeding of the full monty. Lucas formula is better after the stretch to get the N-P-K- ratio swung over more to the P-K side and keep N levels a little lower so it doesn't retard flower growth. Still needs some N but lots less than veg or stretch. Needs lots in stretch but lots of the others too.

Doesn't look fatal! ;)

:peace:
Wish folks learned a coco soil mix before going inert. LOL.
I see root issues is all I'm saying.
Best wishes to you and all.
 

OldMedUser

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Wish folks learned a coco soil mix before going inert. LOL.
I see root issues is all I'm saying.
Best wishes to you and all.
I've done a lot of good DWC grows and you can't get much more inert than RO water. :)

I experimented mixing HP with soil for a dozen plants or so and it didn't work all that well. Now I'm adding some manures and EWC with bio-char, lobster/crab meal and a good dose of a product called DynoMyco that's supposed to be compatable with hydro nutes. Made in Israel specifically for cannabis. Some Insect Frass too. Using less of the 3-part or get burn pretty easy but just getting into it so with a bit of practise . . . Seems to help with terpenes and big phat trichomes so more medicine I hope. I add some Carbo to feed the myco too. Either unsulphured blackstrap molasses or pure dextrose I got with some Mega Crop nutes I won here a couple years back. Have unpasteurized local honey that should work as well.

Got to experiment to make it more fun after so many years. :)

:peace:
 

MICHI-CAN

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I've done a lot of good DWC grows and you can't get much more inert than RO water. :)

I experimented mixing HP with soil for a dozen plants or so and it didn't work all that well. Now I'm adding some manures and EWC with bio-char, lobster/crab meal and a good dose of a product called DynoMyco that's supposed to be compatable with hydro nutes. Made in Israel specifically for cannabis. Some Insect Frass too. Using less of the 3-part or get burn pretty easy but just getting into it so with a bit of practise . . . Seems to help with terpenes and big phat trichomes so more medicine I hope. I add some Carbo to feed the myco too. Either unsulphured blackstrap molasses or pure dextrose I got with some Mega Crop nutes I won here a couple years back. Have unpasteurized local honey that should work as well.

Got to experiment to make it more fun after so many years. :)

:peace:
`Apologies to the OP. We ran astray. But I grow very similar. Only really dumbed down. My years require ease of use. Soil /coco and 3 dry amendments and frass. Too easy. But just what I do.
 

Pparker88

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Actually easy. Just need to hear the plants. They honestly are screaming to us if we could only see.

Comes in time. Patience and start at the simplest solution first.
K.I.S.S. is my S.O.P... LOL.

I hope for healthy plants to all.
I’m starting to be able to figure out any issues on my current grow. My first grow...I was a lost puppy. Lol
 

MickFoster

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So much wrong information about how to grow in coco in this thread........no wonder people get confused.

Coco is drain to waste hydroponics and shouldn't be treated like soil.
Contrary to what one of the above posters claimed, I have never had root issues in my decades using coco.
Daily feeding to run off replenishes the nutes, pulls in fresh oxygen to the roots, and prevents salt build up.

Coco basics:
Feed daily to substantial run off..........twice a day in flower.
Never give plain water and never let it get dry.

If you don't believe me, go to www.cocoforcannabis.com to learn the correct way to grow in coco instead of listening to all the crappy advice you're getting in your thread.

Good luck.
 

SheeshM

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I agree coco should not dry out and avoid straight water too. They do look hungry to me but I don't know anything about the Lucas Formula. Nutrients with NPK for veg, cal-mag and around 800 ppm should work. Have you calibrated your ph pen, just to be sure? How's your drainage and did you buffer your coco before planting?
 

PeachHazelx

Active Member
So much wrong information about how to grow in coco in this thread........no wonder people get confused.

Coco is drain to waste hydroponics and shouldn't be treated like soil.
Contrary to what one of the above posters claimed, I have never had root issues in my decades using coco.
Daily feeding to run off replenishes the nutes, pulls in fresh oxygen to the roots, and prevents salt build up.

Coco basics:
Feed daily to substantial run off..........twice a day in flower.
Never give plain water and never let it get dry.

If you don't believe me, go to www.cocoforcannabis.com to learn the correct way to grow in coco instead of listening to all the crappy advice you're getting in your thread.

Good luck.
Thanks this is what I’ve always heard too!
 

PeachHazelx

Active Member
I agree coco should not dry out and avoid straight water too. They do look hungry to me but I don't know anything about the Lucas Formula. Nutrients with NPK for veg, cal-mag and around 800 ppm should work. Have you calibrated your ph pen, just to be sure? How's your drainage and did you buffer your coco before planting?
You know what I haven’t calibrated my pen in a couple weeks or so, I didn’t think I needed to do it often so I’ll start with that! I also did buffer my coco before planting.
 

kingromano

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Okay so no to everyday? Good to know!
you need to water everyday to keep the ph inside the coco in check

when you water do a large runoff to rinse the coco
this way you refresh the ph/ec in the medium everyday
start at 1.5mS ph 5.8 and see how they react

i see you use perlite, it will help drainage and oxygenation

in veg you can keep the coco wetter, but to stimulate bloom you want to let it dry out a bit, mostly the last weeks
to give you an idea the first layer of the coco must become clearer

be sure your pots never sit in water, even a small layer of water
you want your pots to drain freely everytime
 

PJ Diaz

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You have no idea what you're talking about.
You sure about that?..


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MickFoster

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You sure about that?..


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Absolutely definitely sure!!!!
You're the one confused. The OP is using FloraNova Bloom.........not Flora Bloom.
It's a stand alone nutrient.
 
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