Plants Can't Handle ANY Nutrients? Wtf! Will I still Get decent buds?

JanesRain · Jun 19, 2016

firsttimeARE said:
That is not nutrient burn.

And FFOF does not have enough nutrients to last throughout. I do hydro, but a friend who was running that was getting deficiencies in 2-3 weeks.

Idk what to do, cuz i know for a fact that If i feed it again next week, it'll get worse. And my bushy dwarf that hasn't been fed in 3 weeks will do the same (curling of leaves from too much N)

I can feed this one and the dwarf again next week...but I am like 3 weeks into flowering and don';t really wanna fuck them up too much. They are autos so I might just leave them alone and give fresh water only......it's risky since they are so sensitive to nutes

9leaves · Jun 19, 2016

JanesRain said:
Idk what to do, cuz i know for a fact that If i feed it again next week, it'll get worse. And my bushy dwarf that hasn't been fed in 3 weeks will do the same (curling of leaves from too much N)

I can feed this one and the dwarf again next week...but I am like 3 weeks into flowering and don';t really wanna fuck them up too much. They are autos so I might just leave them alone and give fresh water only......it's risky since they are so sensitive to nutes

Do you have agave syrup or molases without sulfur. I got good results with those when the plant was looking sad.

JanesRain · Jun 19, 2016

9leaves said:
Do you have agave syrup or molases without sulfur. I got good results with those when the plant was looking sad.

Yeah I have organic molasses, but I've heard bad things about using it. What will it do?

9leaves · Jun 19, 2016

JanesRain said:
Yeah I have organic molasses, but I've heard bad things about using it. What will it do?

In small amounts it gives potassium nitrogen and some trace elements to the plant. Go light with it. To much and your soil will repel water. The agave is straight sugar from a plant. It is great food for the plant. Because it came from a plant these two things get taken up by the plant fast. Molases is even good for when you don't feel so hot. Agave is a great sugar sub for a diabetic. Doesn't get absorbed by our bodies fast. Try like a small teaspoon to a gallon of water. Worth a try.

714steadyeddie · Jun 19, 2016

coreywebster said:
I don't see nute burn, isn't that more of a P deficiency?

Olive Drab Green · Jun 19, 2016

JanesRain said:
wife sent some pics. What do you think is wrong?

P def. The bigger plants need more than 1/3 strength, especially in flower. You're starving the big ones.

Olive Drab Green · Jun 19, 2016

In flower, they need a lot of P, K, and Mg. If you feed them like a 2-week-old seedling, you're not going to get much from them.

Olive Drab Green · Jun 19, 2016

JanesRain said:
Yeah I have organic molasses, but I've heard bad things about using it. What will it do?

I use molasses all the time. Molasses, diluted a teaspoon at a time in water, feeds the microbes in your soil to increase their population, and it has a good bit of K.

JanesRain · Jun 19, 2016

Olive Drab Green said:
I use molasses all the time. Molasses, diluted a teaspoon at a time in water, feeds the microbes in your soil to increase their population, and it has a good bit of K.

I don't understand how a starving plant is gona start getting deficiencies after a feeding when it looked perfectly fine prior

AGAIN: The plant had ZERO issues prior to feeding

Olive Drab Green · Jun 19, 2016

JanesRain said:
I don't understand how a starving plant is gona start getting deficiencies after a feeding when it looked perfectly fine prior

AGAIN: The plant had ZERO issues prior to feeding

Well, that is what it is. You didn't feed it enough. It was quick, because it's in flowering and it used up all the phosphorus you had in the soil. Flowering = Can show deficiencies in a day or less if it's not getting what it needs.

Olive Drab Green · Jun 19, 2016

The only other thing it could be is nitrogen abundance causing P lockout, but that isn't going to happen at 1/3 nutes.

JanesRain · Jun 19, 2016

Olive Drab Green said:
The only other thing it could be is nitrogen abundance causing P lockout, but that isn't going to happen at 1/3 nutes.

Would feeding 1/3rd strength FF trio -1 gallon between the 5 once a week- be good enough?

I'm feeding what it recommends @ week 7

plants are 50 days old

They are not very big as u can see

Olive Drab Green · Jun 19, 2016

I dunno what the packaging says and have never used FF liquid nutes, but with the two older plants, you should follow the packaging directions for flower stage. What is the NPK of each bottle?

JanesRain · Jun 19, 2016

Olive Drab Green said:
I dunno what the packaging says and have never used FF liquid nutes, but with the two older plants, you should follow the packaging directions for flower stage. What is the NPK of each bottle?

http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/index....l-formula-big-bloom-grow-big-tiger-bloom.html

Olive Drab Green · Jun 19, 2016

Yeah, there's no reason that something that low should cause abundance and lockout or burn (which would start at the tips, not the middle) at 1/3 strength. What does the company say to do in flower? And are you maybe even overwatering as well? Overwatering can leach P, K, and Mg pretty easy.

Olive Drab Green · Jun 19, 2016

I would stop using "Grow Big" during flower and stick with the other two, personally. My solid organic nutes are 3-4-2 and I yield well.

Olive Drab Green · Jun 19, 2016

Plus 0-5-0 for my guano and molasses has a decent K content.

Olive Drab Green · Jun 19, 2016

In fact, it tells you to do that.

Olive Drab Green · Jun 19, 2016

JanesRain said:
Would feeding 1/3rd strength FF trio -1 gallon between the 5 once a week- be good enough?

I'm feeding what it recommends @ week 7

plants are 50 days old

They are not very big as u can see

Also, they are definitely big enough.

getogrow · Jun 19, 2016

ghb said:
i would say 90% sure that plant is under fed not over.

nute burn is almost a myth on these forums, i see many more people worried about over-ferting their plants suffering problems than those who dump all kinds into the feed and don't necessarily worry.

generally the plant will take what it wants and leave the rest.

this guy is smart .... best post ive seen in a LONG time on these forums. its underfed. it may seem as if the food is causing the spots but it is not the food. (you cannot "flush" soil like some have you think)

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