Plants exploding, but, looks like calmag def???

athlete420 said:

Fed like 2.1 ec. Plenty cal mag. Silica

Now just knocked back the a and b grow solution and kept everything else thr same just too bring ec down too 1.6 - 1.8 try and find what the plants like I think the 2.1 was too hot. I had burnt tips but also I think that was the led lights too close so just kinda learning atm first.attempt at hydro

Click to expand...

They love cal/mag I give 7ml, I didn’t use silica this run. The black truffle I have is a hungry bitch. I’m in 15 gal pots using tap my tap is 100 ppm

Treesomewanted77 said:

I’m sure it can be done but I haven’t done it yet.

Click to expand...

I have in the summer, Harvested Oct 15th

Blackhammer56 said:

They love cal/mag I give 7ml, I didn’t use silica this run. The black truffle I have is a hungry bitch. I’m in 15 gal pots using tap my tap is 100 ppm

Click to expand...

That's very nice water compared too mine haha it's 500 ppm on the 700 scale. Bout 380 on 500 scale

Boatguy said:

Those look much better now. Nice work dialing it in

Click to expand...

Thanks bro

It is time for the 12/12 everything’s healthy in my garden! I’m still on the fence with using Athena all the way through. I have heard negative reviews about using Athena in flower my friends in Michigan said it doesn’t produce terps. This my first grow using Athena. I love it so far very kind to plants my ec 2.1 in veg

Is why its recommended to talk in ec, nobody understands what you mean in ppm. Unless you explain yourself a million times like i seen you do. Had you only mentioned ec would be much easier for everyone. No hate just trying to help. Good luck! Oh and up your feed been said a few times here already. Peace.

athlete420 said:

It measures ec. In uS. Micro siemens
Convert too EC. It works.

What I've been wondering is what ppm scale is my pen, and what ppm scale does my nutes use

Well about 5 hours of research today, I finally found out and comprehended my pen operated by default on the 500ppm scale, and my nutes run on 700ppm scale.

Took me a while but I figured out how too change my pen from 500ppm too 700ppm scale.

I've been under feeding.

My EC is 1.1 and ppm is 800.

The nutrients call for 1400ppm and 2 EC.

With the 500ppm system could only get 1000ppm before hitting 2EC.

At least I am on the right scales now with the nutes and the pen.

I will choose my strongest plant and give it a full big feed ?

Will be nearly doubling the ppm and EC.

And we will see what happens.

Also will feed the mag sulfate.

Click to expand...

Toka416 said:

Is why its recommended to talk in ec, nobody understands what you mean in ppm. Unless you explain yourself a million times like i seen you do. Had you only mentioned ec would be much easier for everyone. No hate just trying to help. Good luck! Oh and up your feed been said a few times here already. Peace.

Click to expand...

Thanks bro, I guess it was just part of my learning process took me a bit too wrap my head around it.

Hopefully someone learned with me lol.

But yeah now I understand it i can see its safer and easier for ec. But even EC was hard for me too learn lol !

Feeding was bumped up between 2 and 2.2.

2.2 is too hot.

Back down too 1.6 it is bringing the run off water down slowly. Probably try get it settled between 1.8 and 2.

Looking great atm.

Going too put 4 outside in big holes in ground with coco. Bit of Styrofoam on top cut too fit holes for insulation keep root zone cool lol.

And the 4 most compact and best structure indoor with the most vigor are going too stay indoors.

Aiming for 2 pound outside. Will use a light on a timer to extend their days too get a extra month of veg lol. Should be good.

Aiming for 4 pound inside off 2600 watts.

Be careful taking indoor acclimated plants outside.

Also, not trying to be a dick, but stop using the word "too," please.

athlete420 said:

Thanks bro, I guess it was just part of my learning process took me a bit too wrap my head around it.

Hopefully someone learned with me lol.

But yeah now I understand it i can see its safer and easier for ec. But even EC was hard for me too learn lol !

Feeding was bumped up between 2 and 2.2.

2.2 is too hot.

Back down too 1.6 it is bringing the run off water down slowly. Probably try get it settled between 1.8 and 2.

Looking great atm.

Going too put 4 outside in big holes in ground with coco. Bit of Styrofoam on top cut too fit holes for insulation keep root zone cool lol.

And the 4 most compact and best structure indoor with the most vigor are going too stay indoors.

Aiming for 2 pound outside. Will use a light on a timer to extend their days too get a extra month of veg lol. Should be good.

Aiming for 4 pound inside off 2600 watts.

View attachment 5248366View attachment 5248367View attachment 5248369

Click to expand...

If you’re just learning I would drop such high expectations and just get what ya get. Not sure if your going by true wall watts or what the lights claim because most LED lights claim 2000w and what that means is they say it will replace 2000 watts of HID but it’s actually only 200 watts from the wall. 4lbs inside is a big task especially for a newbie but I’m sure if can be done with the right space and environment but that’s a tall order. Just get some grows under your belt then start optimizing your grows and you will see better rewards each time. Good luck

Treesomewanted77 said:

If you’re just learning I would drop such high expectations and just get what ya get. Not sure if your going by true wall watts or what the lights claim because most LED lights claim 2000w and what that means is they say it will replace 2000 watts of HID but it’s actually only 200 watts from the wall. 4lbs inside is a big task especially for a newbie but I’m sure if can be done with the right space and environment but that’s a tall order. Just get some grows under your belt then start optimizing your grows and you will see better rewards each time. Good luck

Click to expand...

Yeah, making it to harvest was the goal of my first grow. A pound per plant on a first grow is like taking up track and field in high school and deciding you want to get a D1 college scholarship - you know, maybe just try to win the first track meet and go from there.

Turns out there is a jack herer in the mix of girls.

I'm very excited too get too try 2 strains vs one. Jack herer is going outside lol I want these kalishkanovs inside they are so much more compact looking, I grew plant once with 12 oz and it wasn't even big, like 4.5 foot tall. ABout 5 side branches and a main cola. In horrible conditions with no nutrients just potting mix. Soil bed was about Max 1 foot deep. Then below that the hardest clay known to man it may as well of been concrete or moon dust. Lol ! Still got 12 zips. And it was constantly 105 Fahrenheit

With coco, and nutrients, air pots, more love and care, perfect temperature, I don't see why these girls can't get a pound each all day every day.

I actually had the exact same jack herer grow too about 5 foot tall next too the kalishkanov like 10 year ago, so it's crazy I have the exact same strain and breeder running again it will be very reminiscent lol.

The jack herer I remember I cut it down though as it was a genetic freak. It was trying too bud, but it wasn't growing female or male appendices, it was just stunting out, I've never seen anything like it I've seen alot of herms haha. I just popped 100 bag seeds a few months ago and got them all too preflower stage and every singe one was hermie I will never bother with bag seed again it's just too risky.

This is other hydro kalishkanovs and comparing too my plant that yielded 12 oz dry.

These have too be over a pound all day every day.



I might try one dwc and 3 coco I'm not sure yet.

Exciting.

So yeah I'll train the 4 in the tent and the tent will just have four for a few more weeks then into their final monster airpots lol.

I am also going too label each plant and take cuttings so I can keep the best white widow/ak47 and the jack herer.

Keep running those, and probably get Mr nice regular strains and probably have my own little seed thing. I just want one good father and mother too breed and keep mothers ect. Always have the best quality weed. Sick of crap!. It's pathetic out here lol

Treesomewanted77 said:

If you’re just learning I would drop such high expectations and just get what ya get. Not sure if your going by true wall watts or what the lights claim because most LED lights claim 2000w and what that means is they say it will replace 2000 watts of HID but it’s actually only 200 watts from the wall. 4lbs inside is a big task especially for a newbie but I’m sure if can be done with the right space and environment but that’s a tall order. Just get some grows under your belt then start optimizing your grows and you will see better rewards each time. Good luck

Click to expand...

It's 2600 watts of hps light or old school lights

ec121 said:

Yeah, making it to harvest was the goal of my first grow. A pound per plant on a first grow is like taking up track and field in high school and deciding you want to get a D1 college scholarship - you know, maybe just try to win the first track meet and go from there.

Click to expand...

I've played around alot had many many failures indoor and out. If it wasn't for all what I have done, but I think I can do it thanks for showing me not too get my hopes up.

Environment will be perfect I plan too really push hard even extra veg time if I need just too make sure I have the frames I need too flower big enough for pound plants.

Beauty of this strain is no stretchy branches massive rock hard buds

ec121 said:

Be careful taking indoor acclimated plants outside.

Also, not trying to be a dick, but stop using the word "too," please.

Click to expand...

Thanks I googled it and turns out I have been using it incorrectly.

Treesomewanted77 said:

Have you ever tried running daily feeds with runoff?

Click to expand...

Yes and didn't see any difference except alot more water and work for me. And a constant feed schedule locked them out quick as hell

jonesi daone said:

Yes and didn't see any difference except alot more water and work for me. And a constant feed schedule locked them out quick as hell

Click to expand...

Weird never had an issue running to runoff daily. Now I do multiple feeds per day in flower to runoff and getting my best results since I started few years ago. But if it doesn’t work for you then do what works.

jonesi daone said:

Yes and didn't see any difference except alot more water and work for me. And a constant feed schedule locked them out quick as hell

Click to expand...

Have you got any photos of what your plants looked like that you tried this on ?

athlete420 said:

Thanks bro, I guess it was just part of my learning process took me a bit too wrap my head around it.

Hopefully someone learned with me lol.

But yeah now I understand it i can see its safer and easier for ec. But even EC was hard for me too learn lol !

Feeding was bumped up between 2 and 2.2.

2.2 is too hot.

Back down too 1.6 it is bringing the run off water down slowly. Probably try get it settled between 1.8 and 2.

Looking great atm.

Going too put 4 outside in big holes in ground with coco. Bit of Styrofoam on top cut too fit holes for insulation keep root zone cool lol.

And the 4 most compact and best structure indoor with the most vigor are going too stay indoors.

Aiming for 2 pound outside. Will use a light on a timer to extend their days too get a extra month of veg lol. Should be good.

Aiming for 4 pound inside off 2600 watts.

View attachment 5248366View attachment 5248367View attachment 5248369

Click to expand...

What makes you think 2.6 Ec was too much? I don’t see any burnt leaf tips!

Blackhammer56 said:

What makes you think 2.6 Ec was too much? I don’t see any burnt leaf tips!

Click to expand...

Do u mean 2.2 ec ?

And I don't know actually. Now it's been a week, I think it's actually the LEDs we're too close so I lifted them up and the burnt leaf tips go away

athlete420 said:

Turns out there is a jack herer in the mix of girls.

I'm very excited too get too try 2 strains vs one. Jack herer is going outside lol I want these kalishkanovs inside they are so much more compact looking, I grew plant once with 12 oz and it wasn't even big, like 4.5 foot tall. ABout 5 side branches and a main cola. In horrible conditions with no nutrients just potting mix. Soil bed was about Max 1 foot deep. Then below that the hardest clay known to man it may as well of been concrete or moon dust. Lol ! Still got 12 zips. And it was constantly 105 Fahrenheit

With coco, and nutrients, air pots, more love and care, perfect temperature, I don't see why these girls can't get a pound each all day every day.

I actually had the exact same jack herer grow too about 5 foot tall next too the kalishkanov like 10 year ago, so it's crazy I have the exact same strain and breeder running again it will be very reminiscent lol.

The jack herer I remember I cut it down though as it was a genetic freak. It was trying too bud, but it wasn't growing female or male appendices, it was just stunting out, I've never seen anything like it I've seen alot of herms haha. I just popped 100 bag seeds a few months ago and got them all too preflower stage and every singe one was hermie I will never bother with bag seed again it's just too risky.

This is other hydro kalishkanovs and comparing too my plant that yielded 12 oz dry.

These have too be over a pound all day every day.

View attachment 5248408View attachment 5248409

I might try one dwc and 3 coco I'm not sure yet.

Exciting.

So yeah I'll train the 4 in the tent and the tent will just have four for a few more weeks then into their final monster airpots lol.

I am also going too label each plant and take cuttings so I can keep the best white widow/ak47 and the jack herer.

Keep running those, and probably get Mr nice regular strains and probably have my own little seed thing. I just want one good father and mother too breed and keep mothers ect. Always have the best quality weed. Sick of crap!. It's pathetic out here lol

Click to expand...

Most times whenever a plant hermies happens most of the time imo because of grower error, and too much stress!