Skunk-Master-J
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Basically my plants have started to grow sideways. Think they may be top heavy. Should I attach them to cocktail sticks or something? Any advise?
Thx,
J
Thx,
J
Plants growing sideways?
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videoman40
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Start with getting a fan, than loose the foil, you seem to have hot spots. Besides I think you have the foil backwards anyway.
Skunk-Master-J
Active Member
Have to admit, im using a 60w desk lamp, know its shit but im a poor student! Shud I get rid of the foil then mate? And shud I buy bigger pots now?
J
J
videoman40
Well-Known Member
you need a growlight dude, try a cfl for a few bucks to get started
mogie
Well-Known Member
First time growers frequently:
Overwater their medium based plants. When you pot your plant, judge its weight dry by hefting. Then, water the plant thoroughly, until water runs through the drain holes. Heft it again. When your pot feels as nearly as light as it did dry, its time to water again. Overfeed their plants. As MrSoul says, beginners rarely under do anything. When all else fails, follow the directions on the fertilizer bottle. [Editor's note: dont follow GH's instructions! Use @ 1/4 their recommended strength, or follow recipes in the FAQ]
Overanalyze their grow. A first grow is like a first born child: you pay attention to every little thing that happens. Further, you worry at the first sign something may be wrong. Pay attention to what happens in your grow, but do not try and find a remedy for every yellow leaf. Frequently, the remedy of flushing your medium causes more problems than it solves. Be responsive when things go wrong, but be conservative in your remedies.
Overspend on grow supplies. New growers frequently commit themselves to unrealistic and expensive first grows. It is much more efficient to learn to grow and then invest in high end equipment rather than the other way around. Most experienced growers don't have room for all of the grow paraphernalia they aren't using. As you will see throughout this FAQ: K-I-S-S.
Overpost. Try the search engine first. Chances are good that any question you can think of has been asked and answered before.
Talk about their grow. Don't tell anybody that does not have to know. How can you expect anybody else to keep a secret that you cannot.
Part 2:
Contributed by: Bush_Grower
1. Don't Overwater
Overwatering kills marijuana plants. Water once the top few inches of the soil dries out.
Hydroponics is harder to over-water than soil, due to the abundance of water roots.
2. Don't Tell People
Why? They will only be jealous. People love to feel important and that is why they will tell other people; because others will listen to them.
Keep it to yourself.
3. Touch/kill Germinating Seeds
It can take up to 10 days for a seed to sprout. The paper towel method is not recommended because you must handle the seeds when transferring them from the paper towel to your growing medium.
4. Grow seeds from seeded marijuana (hermaphrodite seeds)
Unless you are prepared for possible disappointments don’t use "unknown" seeds. This is why people buy seeds from seedbanks.
Self-seeding MJ is produced from hermaphrodite plants or a very stunted and late flowering male the grower did not notice. Flowered hermi seeds will produce tall late flowering females coupled with early flowering males.
5. Don't Over-fertilize
Fertilize after first 2 spiked leaves appear.
Start with 25% of recommended label strengths and work your way up. If the leaves suddenly twist or fold under, Leach and Spray with pure water for several days!
Don’t fertilize your plants every time you water! (Soil)
A common watering schedule is to fertilize at full strength, then water at half or quarter strength. This prevents excess salt buildup, leaf and root burn. In addition, don’t water at full strength if the medium is too dry – root burn can occur.
As a precaution, leach the plants with lots of pure water every 2-4 weeks.
6. Don't Under-fertilize
Under-fertilizing is less common. If you prefer to give the plant ‘just enough nutrients’, use a organic soil mixture with blood meal and bone meal or some slow release fertilizer with micro nutrients.
7. Don't Start with Clones
Start with seeds. Bugs are a pain, as are plant diseases. Many growers are able to grow indoors without pest problems for years. Another grower’s cuttings are almost guaranteed to have diseases &/or pests.
8. Don't Provide A Bad Environment
Always provide air circulation and fresh air even during the night cycle. All the air indoors should be replaced every 5-10 minutes.
Humidity between 30-70% temp aim for around 75-85' Even seedlings need a gentle fan to strengthen the stems.
9. Don't Harvest Too Early
25% of the weight will form in the last 2 weeks. Begin flushing with 100% pH’d water when the pistil are 25% brown. Harvest when the plants have totally stopped growing and the white pistils are at least 50-75% brown.
*NOTE: Outdoors if security is a factor make your own call on when to sacrifice the fields. Also take buds continuously in case of thieves.
Common questions:
Q. Can marijuana grow in a northern climate?
Marijuana plants can grow anywhere corn can grow. All it needs is three growing months - seed to harvest. 2 if started indoors!
Q. Why do I have to buy seeds? Why can't I use my own that I picked from my own stash?
Most people desire, and want to be guaranteed, certain characteristics in their mature female plants. The seeds from any weed will all grow into something different. This is unprofitable and inefficient. As opposed to knowing the single set of requirements for your entire crop, you must provide a different set of requirements for each of your plants.
Q. What is better for a new grower - hydroponics or soil?
I believe the all around "better", more convenient setup is soil. Hydro makes plants grow faster, but won't make your buds more potent than soil. Hydro should be attempted after you have a few successful soil crops under your belt.
If you are starting from seed and growing for personal, soil is the practical growing medium. If the crop is started with clones and is commercial, a hydroponics setup is more practical.
Q. Why are my seedlings stretching?
Low light conditions. They also need a gentle wind. Plants will also stretch when subjected to conditions of high humidity.
Q. What kind of lights should I use?
Cheap 4 ft. cool white fluorescent tubes : for germination/seedlings
400 watt Metal halide/HPS : for personal home growers
1000 watt Metal halide/HPS : for some personal growers and commercial growers.
*Use at least 40 watts per sq. foot of grow space.
Q. How far should the lights be from the plants?
Fluorescent: tips of leaves almost touching bulbs
400 watt halide : two feet away from seedlings and one foot away from grown plants
1000 watt halide: four feet away from seedlings and two feet away from grown plants
Overwater their medium based plants. When you pot your plant, judge its weight dry by hefting. Then, water the plant thoroughly, until water runs through the drain holes. Heft it again. When your pot feels as nearly as light as it did dry, its time to water again. Overfeed their plants. As MrSoul says, beginners rarely under do anything. When all else fails, follow the directions on the fertilizer bottle. [Editor's note: dont follow GH's instructions! Use @ 1/4 their recommended strength, or follow recipes in the FAQ]
Overanalyze their grow. A first grow is like a first born child: you pay attention to every little thing that happens. Further, you worry at the first sign something may be wrong. Pay attention to what happens in your grow, but do not try and find a remedy for every yellow leaf. Frequently, the remedy of flushing your medium causes more problems than it solves. Be responsive when things go wrong, but be conservative in your remedies.
Overspend on grow supplies. New growers frequently commit themselves to unrealistic and expensive first grows. It is much more efficient to learn to grow and then invest in high end equipment rather than the other way around. Most experienced growers don't have room for all of the grow paraphernalia they aren't using. As you will see throughout this FAQ: K-I-S-S.
Overpost. Try the search engine first. Chances are good that any question you can think of has been asked and answered before.
Talk about their grow. Don't tell anybody that does not have to know. How can you expect anybody else to keep a secret that you cannot.
Part 2:
Contributed by: Bush_Grower
1. Don't Overwater
Overwatering kills marijuana plants. Water once the top few inches of the soil dries out.
Hydroponics is harder to over-water than soil, due to the abundance of water roots.
2. Don't Tell People
Why? They will only be jealous. People love to feel important and that is why they will tell other people; because others will listen to them.
Keep it to yourself.
3. Touch/kill Germinating Seeds
It can take up to 10 days for a seed to sprout. The paper towel method is not recommended because you must handle the seeds when transferring them from the paper towel to your growing medium.
4. Grow seeds from seeded marijuana (hermaphrodite seeds)
Unless you are prepared for possible disappointments don’t use "unknown" seeds. This is why people buy seeds from seedbanks.
Self-seeding MJ is produced from hermaphrodite plants or a very stunted and late flowering male the grower did not notice. Flowered hermi seeds will produce tall late flowering females coupled with early flowering males.
5. Don't Over-fertilize
Fertilize after first 2 spiked leaves appear.
Start with 25% of recommended label strengths and work your way up. If the leaves suddenly twist or fold under, Leach and Spray with pure water for several days!
Don’t fertilize your plants every time you water! (Soil)
A common watering schedule is to fertilize at full strength, then water at half or quarter strength. This prevents excess salt buildup, leaf and root burn. In addition, don’t water at full strength if the medium is too dry – root burn can occur.
As a precaution, leach the plants with lots of pure water every 2-4 weeks.
6. Don't Under-fertilize
Under-fertilizing is less common. If you prefer to give the plant ‘just enough nutrients’, use a organic soil mixture with blood meal and bone meal or some slow release fertilizer with micro nutrients.
7. Don't Start with Clones
Start with seeds. Bugs are a pain, as are plant diseases. Many growers are able to grow indoors without pest problems for years. Another grower’s cuttings are almost guaranteed to have diseases &/or pests.
8. Don't Provide A Bad Environment
Always provide air circulation and fresh air even during the night cycle. All the air indoors should be replaced every 5-10 minutes.
Humidity between 30-70% temp aim for around 75-85' Even seedlings need a gentle fan to strengthen the stems.
9. Don't Harvest Too Early
25% of the weight will form in the last 2 weeks. Begin flushing with 100% pH’d water when the pistil are 25% brown. Harvest when the plants have totally stopped growing and the white pistils are at least 50-75% brown.
*NOTE: Outdoors if security is a factor make your own call on when to sacrifice the fields. Also take buds continuously in case of thieves.
Common questions:
Q. Can marijuana grow in a northern climate?
Marijuana plants can grow anywhere corn can grow. All it needs is three growing months - seed to harvest. 2 if started indoors!
Q. Why do I have to buy seeds? Why can't I use my own that I picked from my own stash?
Most people desire, and want to be guaranteed, certain characteristics in their mature female plants. The seeds from any weed will all grow into something different. This is unprofitable and inefficient. As opposed to knowing the single set of requirements for your entire crop, you must provide a different set of requirements for each of your plants.
Q. What is better for a new grower - hydroponics or soil?
I believe the all around "better", more convenient setup is soil. Hydro makes plants grow faster, but won't make your buds more potent than soil. Hydro should be attempted after you have a few successful soil crops under your belt.
If you are starting from seed and growing for personal, soil is the practical growing medium. If the crop is started with clones and is commercial, a hydroponics setup is more practical.
Q. Why are my seedlings stretching?
Low light conditions. They also need a gentle wind. Plants will also stretch when subjected to conditions of high humidity.
Q. What kind of lights should I use?
Cheap 4 ft. cool white fluorescent tubes : for germination/seedlings
400 watt Metal halide/HPS : for personal home growers
1000 watt Metal halide/HPS : for some personal growers and commercial growers.
*Use at least 40 watts per sq. foot of grow space.
Q. How far should the lights be from the plants?
Fluorescent: tips of leaves almost touching bulbs
400 watt halide : two feet away from seedlings and one foot away from grown plants
1000 watt halide: four feet away from seedlings and two feet away from grown plants
Skunk-Master-J
Active Member
I still have not managed to get new lights for my babies, I need a lamp that has a bayonet bulb fitting, and cant find one anywhere! I have one of the cls type bulbs you have told me to get, but no fitting for it yet! Will try and sort this tommorrow when I goto town though.
Another problem possibly is that some of the edges of the leaves have turned brown?
Cheers bro,
J
Another problem possibly is that some of the edges of the leaves have turned brown?
Cheers bro,
J
TillthedayiDIE420
Well-Known Member
oi mate, take ur lights and put em about 3-4 inches away
teck blood
Active Member
i agree ; their stems are so long because they are streching for the light. bring the light down && i suggest repotting with more soil ; && at least 2 CFLs. have a fan blowing on them as this helps them make stronger thicker stems. && remember ; bring the lights down at least 2 inches from the top leaves.
AzGrOw-N-sMoKe
New Member
poor little plants are not gonna make it ....you need light...repot plants deeper....get rid of tin foil..get more light...get a fan blowin to strenthen stems...geta light..
x SPARKLE SWEET x
Member
i woke up this morning 2 find the same problem. i got a bigger pot and planted it deeper, a bit less than 2 inches of stem was left sticking out ( i would have liked for it 2 be less, but it got really long ). the leaves were still pointing vertically but the stem was nice and straight up. i use 1 cfl bulb in a desk lamp with a bendable neck. i came up with a good idea that is helping wonderfully. i took an old wall poster that is bright white and glossy on the back side and wrapped it around the pot 2 make a sort of tube around it, white side inwards. i taped the poster 2 stay in place, and left the top corner untaped ( but still wrapped around as tight as possible ) so i could stick the lamp in, and then covered the top with a white piece of paper. ( white reflects light so anything white will work ). now the lamp and bulb is completely over the plant, about 2 inches from the leaves, and it is getting light from the 360 degrees of even reflection all the way around it. there is no major light leakage whatsoever and within a few hours, the plant righted itself and the leaves are now horizontal! it looks happy and as if it is getting proper light. i have a fan blowing on it 2, it still gets a breeze even tho the paper tube is around it. if any1 would like 2 see pictures of what i did i will place them here shortly. hope this helps u, it saved my little baby immediately! hehe. good luck. 
x SPARKLE SWEET x
Member
i took the paper off of the top of the poster tube so i could take these pictures. remember to cover the top with a flat white sheet of paper, inches above the top of the lamp and avoiding any fire hazards from any paper touching the lamp parts. the lamp doesnt get hot enough 2 start a fire, but your lamp may. the fan helps keep it cool and blow on the plant. these pix arent the best because i had 2 take them with a built in laptop webcam... haha... but they should do. 
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guitarzan
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Get yourself a good LED grow light...usually I see them on kijiji or craigslist, tent, fan, light, the entire kits for cheap. People think they can get "free pot" but soon find out it's far from free so they pawn the stuff and continue buying from their go-to dealer. You can find good deals on 1000 W LED...you really have no choice. Sure you can grow a plant with a fluorescent light, grow it in veg state, but once it's time to flower, you're going to need some fukin' light. Just sayin'. A thousand watter, which ends up being less than 1000 Watts, but is sufficient for one good plant for sure from veg till bud harvest. There's no way around it buddy.
LeastExpectedGrower
Well-Known Member
Most of the people in this thread are probably dead now, its so old. You're giving advice to ghosts.
Nope_49595933949
Well-Known Member
How is a 1000watts less than a 1000 watts?
guitarzan
Well-Known Member
A sign of insufficient light is a long and lanky stem. I put my lights as close to the plants as I can...or the plants closest to the lights, depending on my mood. This year I got ten plants from two seeds...now that I got cloning down a bit better, makes for less expen$ive smoke eh. No, seriously, I have LED lights above (my best ones above the canopy), and a few surrounding the plants at the sides. More light, more stigmas, gets the most out of that strain you're growing. The bud only gets as THC potent as the genetics allows.