corral hollow kid
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Where in the "west"? USA?
Plants growing too slow??
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Al B. Fuct
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I'm about the plaster the 'California H2O2 ban' with the urban myth label. Every time someone tells me it's been banned, I can still find it at hydro shops in LA.
NewGrowth
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I can get it in cali, I dunno where that one came from Al . . .
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
I don't know where this furphy came from either, but it seems rather specific to RIU. I have not seen the rumour on other boards.
I had a UK user also say that high strength H2O2 was banned in the UK on cause that it is a constituent chemical, along with acetone, for making the highly unstable yet homebrewable explosive TATP (triacetone triperoxide). TATP was suspected in the 7/7 London transport bombings. If there's ever been any good cause to ban high test H2O2, this would be the reason. However, another astute UK RIU reader found a source on 35% H2O2 for her in very short order, from a shop which has no plans to discontinue it.
Folks, if anyone tells you H2O2 is banned/due to be banned, ask for a source on that information that you can confirm. Right now, this one is holding steady at 'urban myth' status.
I had a UK user also say that high strength H2O2 was banned in the UK on cause that it is a constituent chemical, along with acetone, for making the highly unstable yet homebrewable explosive TATP (triacetone triperoxide). TATP was suspected in the 7/7 London transport bombings. If there's ever been any good cause to ban high test H2O2, this would be the reason. However, another astute UK RIU reader found a source on 35% H2O2 for her in very short order, from a shop which has no plans to discontinue it.
Folks, if anyone tells you H2O2 is banned/due to be banned, ask for a source on that information that you can confirm. Right now, this one is holding steady at 'urban myth' status.
toast master
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Hay al , i think the reason for the h2o2 ban is that some hydro suppliers are not willing to fork over the $ to maintain a haz mat liscence. one is required to store products in volume.. rather than look cheap.. they just say " oh its been baned cant get it " one local told me the same thing .. the guy across town has it ... diferent suppliers.... it is considered a haz mat for any shipping purpose .. hope this helps...
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Yeah toasty, that makes sense. High strength H2O2 is definitely a hazchem.
I have no patience for bullshit, I'd simply not buy anything from a shop whose clerks lie to me.
I have no patience for bullshit, I'd simply not buy anything from a shop whose clerks lie to me.
NewGrowth
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I get it from restaurant supply
I'm a chef so its never been a problem for me to source it. I have no idea where to find 50% though.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Very good tip on sourcing from restaurant supply houses.
For those who don't know, 35% is used in foodservice to sterilise food prep machinery.
For those who don't know, 35% is used in foodservice to sterilise food prep machinery.
415medical
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Hey Al, couldnt load my pics for some reason. I just decided to chop early just incase if it was budrot, it wont spread. will post finaly results.. I add an additive that makes it heavy this time. The buds are way too dense now. Hope it doesnt mold, etc
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
No such thing as a bud that's way too dense. That's like finding a gal who is 'way too sexy.' 
If you're getting grey mould/botyritis, a sulfur burner will help stop it as will preventing RH from exceeding 70% and maintaining the plants in a healthy condition.
If you're getting grey mould/botyritis, a sulfur burner will help stop it as will preventing RH from exceeding 70% and maintaining the plants in a healthy condition.
NewGrowth
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LOL I had one of those once Al . . . the only problem is she had a scary fiance in jail for attempted murder. Lets just say that when he got out we did not talk much.No such thing as a bud that's way too dense. That's like finding a gal who is 'way too sexy.'
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
heh, that is one of the VERY few situations when I'm happy to be 195cm tall and a bit over 110kg. Scary fiancees often are a bit deferential when a land giant lumbers by, blocking out the sun. 
The rest of the time, being a walking wall is just a right pain in the arse, notably in buying clothes & shoes.
The rest of the time, being a walking wall is just a right pain in the arse, notably in buying clothes & shoes.
415medical
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Serious, its like a rock.. I think its gonna take a while for it to dryNo such thing as a bud that's way too dense. That's like finding a gal who is 'way too sexy.'
If you're getting grey mould/botyritis, a sulfur burner will help stop it as will preventing RH from exceeding 70% and maintaining the plants in a healthy condition.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
415medical
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I have sort of like in a bud dryer, but bigger. I have a 4x8 Hotbox with a big 20inch fan and a dehumidifer/AC unit. I heard that you shouldn't cut any of the leafs off. Cause i've heard the leafs sucks the chorphly (dont't know is it right spelling) from the buds, so it wont taste like grass..
Hey Al, i'm trying my new system. Completely Hydro. Do you think i need to transplant the ready to flower plants to a another growing medium? They are in 6inch RW cubes, about 2ft tall. Do you think the root mass is enough to produce arm size buds or should i pot them in 2.5 gal buckets with mini cubes under it so that the roots can grow down? Planning on flowering them under 2 1000watt HPS on 4x8 trays. 100 % Hydro..
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
No, leaves don't 'suck chlorophyll out of your buds.' If anything, allowing leaves to remain on your buds will make them taste grassy. Remove the leaf and they will dry faster. You don't want to smoke much leaf anyway...
Because you've vegged them so long and allowed them to get so tall, those plants will finish VERY tall, 4-5ft. Because light from even the mighty 1000HPS penetrates foliage only so deeply, buds down low on the plant will be thin and weedy. Tall plants are not the indoor grower's friend.
If I were you, I'd use those 2' plants as mums and cut a big batch of clones, which are flowered immediately after setting root. Plants which are flowered immediately after setting root will finish up comparatively short, about 30-34" tall under a 1000. Their short stature better suits indoor lighting, meaning that even the bud formations down low on the stalk will be dense and heavy.
Whether you flower the 2' plants or use them as mums, they will need more space for roots. Could use RW floc or mini cubes, they both act the same; I suspect floc is cheaper.
415medical
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415medical
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My finished product was about little over 6. Which is not so good because i used 6 1000 hps on them. I should be @ 1gram per watt right? I got almost 10 last harvest. I wonder what happened? Maybe flowered too early? Maybe cause of less plants. Maybe cause the hps bulbs are about a yr old and needs to be changed? I had about 8 plants under each light last time, while I had 6 under each light this time.
My next grow shall be hydro. But I don't think the yield will be the same as 5 gallon buckets (drain to waste)..
My next grow shall be hydro. But I don't think the yield will be the same as 5 gallon buckets (drain to waste)..
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Soil grows generally are a bit slower and need a week or two more flowering time to meet the output of a good hydro op.
A good yield for a hydro op is 1g/W in 8 wks.
HPS light output does degrade appreciably after 12-18 mos but I would not expect a 40% cut in your output from the last crop.
SoG relies on filling your lighted space with small plants, if that's what you're doing. You certainly should see more yield from a SoG op packed wall-to-wall with short plants than you would from large or bushy plant growing styles.
A good yield for a hydro op is 1g/W in 8 wks.
HPS light output does degrade appreciably after 12-18 mos but I would not expect a 40% cut in your output from the last crop.
SoG relies on filling your lighted space with small plants, if that's what you're doing. You certainly should see more yield from a SoG op packed wall-to-wall with short plants than you would from large or bushy plant growing styles.
415medical
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Cool. I can't do SOG. cause of legal issues. But i would love to do it one day tho. Thanks AL for the imfo...