Plants not looking to well... Help!!

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AlChemist333

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So I’m a noob to cannabis growing. I’m growing Platinum OG photoperiods. They are about a month old. I started then in solo cups and transplanted them recently into 3 gallon pots. I’m using Fox Farm Happy Frog as my growing medium and Gaia Green 444 and 284 as my nutrients. What I recently found out is that the nutrients in the soil only last about 2 weeks as oppose to 3-4 weeks. Eventually my seedlings began to show signs of nutrients deficiency. Because my medium was still wet from a previous watering. I gave them a little Foliar spray with Epsom Salt until I could transplant them. The Foliar spray perked them up a little but they eventually began to droop again. I transplanted then into 3 gallon pots because I wanted to give them a proper feeding with Nute burn. And in solo cups that’s really hard to gauge unless the soil is amended prior to. Might I add that before I transplanted them I added a tablespoon of Epsom salt to the hole in which they would be placed. And I watering using Mammoth P. I transplanted them on May 28 and gave them their first feeding on May 31. Their last watering was May 31. With every watering I pH it to 6.5. I did not amend my soil prior to planting them. My temperature ranges from 70-75F and my humidity ranges from 59-64. 4x4 grow tent. 600W LED. I feel I’ve been doing everything right then again maybe not. Can someone guide me plz? Not sure what’s going on.
 

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I’m not sure I understand why you would put a tablespoon of epsom salt in the hole before transplanting. I don’t think the roots are going to handle being in direct contact with a layer of salt like that. The reason you are getting less “life” from your soil is because you went with smaller pots. When people talk about some soils having enough nutrients to last about a month, they are usually talking about when you are growing in 5 gal pots.
 
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AlChemist333

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After doing some research I saw somewhere that someone suggested adding tablespoon of Epsom salt would be good for the roots but I think I ruined a month worth of growing. Do you think flushing would solve this problem?
 
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AlChemist333 said:
After doing some research I saw somewhere that someone suggested adding tablespoon of Epsom salt would be good for the roots but I think I ruined a month worth of growing. Do you think flushing would solve this problem?
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They probably meant to mix a tablespoon into the soil before transplanting. I would think that flushing would probably help dissolve and remove the salt.
 
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Do you think I caused a Nutrient Lockout by doing this. New growth looks fine. The older leaves at the bottom are suffering severely. I’m going to cut those. Instead of flushing, do you think after a couple waterings, the salt will dissolve and the plants will recover. The plants aren’t looking horrible but they do show signs that something is wrong.
 
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Basically I think you way overcomplicated everything. Mammoth P this early doesn't serve much purpose as far as I'm aware. I'm not super familiar with it but it's mostly helpful later in the plants life. Also the Epsom salt in the soil wasn't necessary.

You just waited too long to up pot. If you moved them into the 3 gallons recently they likely appear to be growing slowly because the plant is focused on root growth rather than vegetative growth.

Happy frog isn't as hot as Fox Farms other mix Ocean Forest but it can feed for several weeks.

Also, link to your light? It's probably not 600w.
 
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CNOTE72394

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Lights are to high. Pots are to big for such a small plant. Your giving more water then they can drink because the pot is so big. Only give them about 4 ounces at a time and make sure you pour it slowly close to the stem.
 
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AlChemist333

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Ok I’ll stop using the Mammoth P for now. I assumed it would help with stunted growth. But I guess I was wrong. And the LED light I have is Phlizon 600w. Now I have seen reviews that says that this isnt really a 600W but my plants seems to respond nicely to it. I raised it this morning because it seemed to be too close. With my being a new grower... I think I’m just paranoid and don’t want to mess things up but I think I did so anyways.
 
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I raised the light this morning because I felt they were too close. Like maybe they were suffering from a little light burn. I only water near the stem for now being that the pot is so big.
 
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CNOTE72394 said:
Lights are to high. Pots are to big for such a small plant. Your giving more water then they can drink because the pot is so big. Only give them about 4 ounces at a time and make sure you pour it slowly close to the stem.
I ment 8 oz ..sorry.. also the next time you need to wait a little longer before transplant into 3 gal. Pots. Reefer plants have to grow into there pots just like humans grow into their clothes. You more or less put a 10 year old into grow folks pants. Be patient the plant will only grow as fast as it needs to. Perfection takes time and when you rush things you make mistakes... Good luck to ya. Happy growing
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AlChemist333

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No problem! I’ll be sure to do that. I started some Northern Lights plants. They’re about 2 weeks old so Ill be sure not to make the same mistakes I made with the Platinum OG plants. Thanks for the advice! It was very helpful!
 
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AlChemist333 said:
No problem! I’ll be sure to do that. I started some Northern Lights plants. They’re about 2 weeks old so Ill be sure not to make the same mistakes I made with the Platinum OG plants. Thanks for the advice! It was very helpful!
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Your lights are too high now but more importantly they just aren't strong enough for a 4x4 tent. Your plants will look healthy enough but they won't grow fast and your yield won't be fantastic.

Also your fine in 3 gallon pots right now. That's definitely not your issue.

Too many nutes without a purpose, not enough light, waited too long to up pot. You'll be fine though. Just get more and better light when you can.
 
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Gentlemencorpse said:
Your lights are too high now but more importantly they just aren't strong enough for a 4x4 tent. Your plants will look healthy enough but they won't grow fast and your yield won't be fantastic.

Also your fine in 3 gallon pots right now. That's definitely not your issue.

Too many nutes without a purpose, not enough light, waited too long to up pot. You'll be fine though. Just get more and better light when you can.
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Do you think purchasing another 600W, possibly Mars Hydro, will be sufficient along with the current 600W I have?
 
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That is 1300 true watts of led for an area the same size as yours ish. Four plants. It's all about wattage man. More watts more watts oh and move em away closer. My plants are like 40 days old in Miracle-Gro moisture control soil. And I've nuted them once. First grow. Always ph and dechlorinate. I flowered at 4 weeks and 3 says due to space. Plant is black indica.
 

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Damn dude! Nice plants! I definitely think I need to upgrade my wattage. I feel they should be bigger for the time frame they’ve been growing. I always pH to 6.5 and I use reverse osmosis water do dechlorinating isn’t necessary. Also are your plants auto flowers or photo periods? They seem huge for 40 days. Mine are about 30 days old and are nowhere near that size.
 
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