Plants stretched too much for space

iztik

iztik

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Well, it’s like the title says. I left one more week than I intended in veg (i was away) and now this has become a problem.

I’m now starting week 3 of flower and the stretching has made the plants get to the light and filter. Now I’m also having problem with the humidity levels (as I think is kinda expected given the plant size/tent room ratio).

So I need your help!

Setup info:
3x3 tent
200w lumatek Attis led
5 plants - Soil - 3x Reserva Privada OG Kush & 2x Dinafem Critical+ (from seed)
Temps: 68 low, 80 max, lights on average 77
Humidity (last 24h): 52 min, 77 max, 60/70 average with lights on
Day 22 of 12/12
2 fans and a small dehumidifier

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My only options at this point seem to be supercropping, should and can I still do this 3 weeks into flowering?

I’m also concerned about the humidity levels, this is too high and I’m afraid it’ll cause serious problems later into flowering. And i don’t think supercropping will help so I’m a little out of ideas about how to deal it it.

I feel pretty dumb about how I let this got out of control like this. Many lessons to be learned here

Anyway, any help or feedback in general is appreciated! Many thanks! :bigjoint:
 
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go go kid

go go kid

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if it were mine, i would try the bending teckneek, where you pinch the stem and it gently bends over, but looking at how far away they are from the net, im not so sure. pruning the tops and delaying flower for a while, so the smaller heads catch up is another possible method.
sorry not much help, other then those two possabilities
 
PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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iztik said:
Well, it’s like the title says. I left one more week than I intended in veg (i was away) and now this has become a problem.

I’m now starting week 3 of flower and the stretching has made the plants get to the light and filter. Now I’m also having problem with the humidity levels (as I think is kinda expected given the plant size/tent room ratio).

So I need your help!

Setup info:
3x3 tent
200w lumatek Attis led
5 plants - Soil - 3x Reserva Privada OG Kush & 2x Dinafem Critical+ (from seed)
Temps: 68 low, 80 max, lights on average 77
Humidity (last 24h): 52 min, 77 max, 60/70 average with lights on
Day 22 of 12/12
2 fans and a small dehumidifier

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My only options at this point seem to be supercropping, should and can I still do this 3 weeks into flowering?

I’m also concerned about the humidity levels, this is too high and I’m afraid it’ll cause serious problems later into flowering. And i don’t think supercropping will help so I’m a little out of ideas about how to deal it it.

I feel pretty dumb about how I let this got out of control like this. Many lessons to be learned here

Anyway, any help or feedback in general is appreciated! Many thanks! :bigjoint:
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Supercrop those bitches back into line
 
hilltopblazer

hilltopblazer

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my OG x HP stretches hard, I won't flip to 12/12 till I think I can't manage the thickness. Soft pinch and lay down canopy, will promote horizontal growth, but it's a battle for 5 weeks, then it's cake......
 
MoroccanRoll

MoroccanRoll

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Sounds like you have three issues. Plant height, plant density and humidity.
At three weeks flower, anything you do to control height is going to increase density. That's going to increase humidity. Can you handle the increased density and humidity? If not, that's your biggest issue.

Supercropping is probably your best bet for height. Estimate how much more they're going to stretch and crop to give them enough room to grow.

If density gets too high you're going to have to decide what plant matter you're going to sacrifice. Best to have a plan in advance. Maybe sacrifice one plant to save more bud on the remaining plants?

Humidity is the easiest. What's your target humidity? If your intake air is drier, increase ventilation. If your intake air is wet, you'll have to extract water from the air either at the inlet or from the volume of air in the tent. if your air exchange rate is high, you're going to have to dehumidify a larger volume of air.
 
PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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iztik said:
Well, it’s like the title says. I left one more week than I intended in veg (i was away) and now this has become a problem.

I’m now starting week 3 of flower and the stretching has made the plants get to the light and filter. Now I’m also having problem with the humidity levels (as I think is kinda expected given the plant size/tent room ratio).

So I need your help!

Setup info:
3x3 tent
200w lumatek Attis led
5 plants - Soil - 3x Reserva Privada OG Kush & 2x Dinafem Critical+ (from seed)
Temps: 68 low, 80 max, lights on average 77
Humidity (last 24h): 52 min, 77 max, 60/70 average with lights on
Day 22 of 12/12
2 fans and a small dehumidifier

View attachment 4886121View attachment 4886122View attachment 4886123

My only options at this point seem to be supercropping, should and can I still do this 3 weeks into flowering?

I’m also concerned about the humidity levels, this is too high and I’m afraid it’ll cause serious problems later into flowering. And i don’t think supercropping will help so I’m a little out of ideas about how to deal it it.

I feel pretty dumb about how I let this got out of control like this. Many lessons to be learned here

Anyway, any help or feedback in general is appreciated! Many thanks! :bigjoint:
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For humidity defoliate most of those leafs below the top net.
 
Nixs

Nixs

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I see a huge potential for big ass clones if you got the space.
I would cut the tops, clone, and even out the canopy + some defoliation, but that's me :eyesmoke:
 
iztik

iztik

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Is it okay to supercrop and trim some of the big leaves at this point?

Humidity is the biggest problem I see as @MoroccanRoll mentioned!
I can trim some of the leaves below the first ne, it’ll probably stress the plants but I don’t really have a choice it seems.
If this doesn’t work I guess the only option that remains is to remove of them and clear up some space.


Thanks for sharing that detailed analysis by the way @MoroccanRoll !

I actually just noticed I made a mistake, it’s not the 3rd week of flower.

They are on day 23 so starting the 4th week, sorry!
 
MoroccanRoll

MoroccanRoll

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Supercrop, defoliate lower leaves. Keep the stuff up top. You'll know when to stop. If you overdefoliate at this point? They're weeds. They'll grow back. You don't have to worry about killing them.

For humidity, look at your tent as a system. What are the inputs and outputs? You have air and water coming in. you have air and water going out. You have water being added to the system by the plants themselves. Bring drier air in, take wetter air out and your humidity will drop. simple as that.
 
iztik

iztik

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MoroccanRoll said:
For humidity, look at your tent as a system. What are the inputs and outputs? You have air and water coming in. you have air and water going out. You have water being added to the system by the plants themselves. Bring drier air in, take wetter air out and your humidity will drop. simple as that.
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I think you might have hit the the main issue with this @MoroccanRoll, to me it seems that there's not enough intake to compensate for the humidity and I do believe this might be the main problem. I can also see that the tent "shrinks" which to me is indicative of not enough intake relative to the extraction rate.

The room it's in has a low RH so I do think one of my problems is that I need to have additional inflow of air, which in turn should increase the air renewal rate and lower the RH inside the tent.

What do you think?

I defoliated and cleared the "jungle" a bit and I'm gonna read up a bit on supercropping so I don't screw up. I'll keep you posted about how it's going.
Thanks!
 
Son of a collier

Son of a collier

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@iztik if you decide to supercrop your tops maybe stake your girls and provide some support as they will lean once they gain some weight.
That being said , your plants look healthy and at 3rd week of bloom they have probably done most of their stretching so if i were in your shoes i would lollipop them and leave it at that.
just my opinion
good luck with the remainder of your grow man.
 
Rurumo

Rurumo

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I overgrew a sativa significantly in my current grow and had to supercrop branches almost every day, from stretch to harvest in a week or two. When one pops up, pinch it and bend it back in place! You need to start doing this aggressively if you want to save your crop. If your humidity is high in there, you might need a bigger humidifier, and more airflow inside the tent, above and below the canopy. It's okay to prune some of the undergrowth that no light touches if you have high humidity levels. Good luck!
 
MoroccanRoll

MoroccanRoll

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iztik said:
The room it's in has a low RH so I do think one of my problems is that I need to have additional inflow of air, which in turn should increase the air renewal rate and lower the RH inside the tent.

What do you think?

I defoliated and cleared the "jungle" a bit and I'm gonna read up a bit on supercropping so I don't screw up. I'll keep you posted about how it's going.
Thanks!
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If your ambient air is low RH, all you have to do is increase airflow and the RH in the tent will decrease. You are correct, if you're establishing vacuum in the tent (sucking in the sides) the inlet is restricted. If you can either open up the inlet or add a fan to the inlet to move more air through the restriction, you're golden.
 
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