Please Help, Beginning of 3rd Weed Veg

Elliesdaddy · Apr 29, 2012

I'm going to make this system and use 1 600Watt HPS and 2 125Watt Cfl (the long bulbs) during Veg

Then switch to 2 600Watt HPS's During the last week or two of Veg (depending on how much i veg)

Would it not be better just to switch to red spectrum CFL tubes during flower? or will some blue spectrum benefit? alot more? for more controlable stretching, but i noticed most the stretching is in the first 3 -4 weeks so switch to red spectrum after them first 4 weeks of flower for a better harvest amount?

Elliesdaddy · Apr 29, 2012

Matchbox said:
There are a few mods you can do to really increase growth potential (just rollitup search for waterfarm mods)

Also flick through this grow he gets anything from 6-15oz PER PLANT lol in his waterfarm:
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/344359-pineapple-express-g13-labs-seed.html

You leave the pump on continuously (it's only a few watts so cost is next to nothing), yes each pot has it's own self contained reservoir. But my system is linked so the 3 pots share each others res's by using the 1" PVC tube at the bottom of my buckets, this is just to make PH'ing and checks/draining/flushing easier, and to create the 'undercurrent'.

But yeah the air pump is the only electric part (as with most hydro setups)

How would you link this same system into one reservoir? I could get a 180L's tank if it's not too much to get all pumps set up to perform out the same tank like you said PHing, Adding Nutes and flushing would be a million times easier

Elliesdaddy · Apr 29, 2012

Or even a way to make it all in one reservoir and then put it in, if you can just lift the top pot and pour the feed in that'd be fine and save a lot of DIY

Matchbox · Apr 29, 2012

Plants benefit from both spectra of light throughout their entire life cycle so yes leave them blue towards end of flower, it also helps to make them really frosty as blue bulbs sometimes have a bit of UVB in them. Especially seeing as you'll have 2 or 3 x HPS's anyway so you don't need anymore red lol

If your building it, to link the systems you drill a hole in the base of the bucket, put a connector in there and attach that to the 1" PVC to the next bucket then the next etc... if you were to use a big separate res the last bucket would be connected to the res.

It would look something like this:

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you'll have to research a bit how to wire the pumps and pipes up I can't think of how at the moment (I'm sure it'll be an easy job though)

Elliesdaddy · Apr 29, 2012

That's good fam, but will you be able to lift the top pot with the plant in out of the bottom to just add reservoir in?

Matchbox · Apr 29, 2012

Elliesdaddy said:
That's good fam, but will you be able to lift the top pot with the plant in out of the bottom to just add reservoir in?

Those pic's aren't my setup just found it on RIU as an example...

But yeah I can lift the top pots to fill/check the res, the Ikea bins have hinges on the lids so you can just lift em a lil bit. Though I plan to fill straight through the hydroton, even if this does become a problem I can just drill a hole in the lid and fill through that, the only time I'll be lifting the lid is to check if the res and roots are ok.

Elliesdaddy · Apr 29, 2012

Matchbox said:
Plants benefit from both spectra of light throughout their entire life cycle so yes leave them blue towards end of flower, it also helps to make them really frosty as blue bulbs sometimes have a bit of UVB in them. Especially seeing as you'll have 2 or 3 x HPS's anyway so you don't need anymore red lol

If your building it, to link the systems you drill a hole in the base of the bucket, put a connector in there and attach that to the 1" PVC to the next bucket then the next etc... if you were to use a big separate res the last bucket would be connected to the res.

It would look something like this:

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you'll have to research a bit how to wire the pumps and pipes up I can't think of how at the moment (I'm sure it'll be an easy job though)

Been looking it all up
[h=1]gh farm kit 4116[/h]
That gives you everything but you're bucket equipment, found them on amazon for $7... defo going to make this setup although i'm now going to have to put time into finding a UK source for this, will the hydro shops have them? I would order the $7 one... but postage and packaging is like 30quid!!-.-

Elliesdaddy · Apr 29, 2012

So if i use a 5Gallon bucket although say 1Gallon is actually pebbles would the pot still act as a 5gallon container considering rootmass?

Elliesdaddy · Apr 29, 2012

Just checked up on the girls, grown well overnight i'm extremely surprised at their progress, i was thinking maybe the buds had been filling out from the inside and finished so started growing in width again as the buds have a solid structure to their touch now, but all of them have done it even though some are more developed than others...

I turned my fan off last night to save a bit of electricity i'm guessing it may be something to do with that??

Matchbox · Apr 30, 2012

Elliesdaddy said:
Been looking it all up
gh farm kit 4116

That gives you everything but you're bucket equipment, found them on amazon for $7... defo going to make this setup although i'm now going to have to put time into finding a UK source for this, will the hydro shops have them? I would order the $7 one... but postage and packaging is like 30quid!!-.-

Don't know about the GH farm, haven't looked it up myself, I think hydro shops should sell the more expensive ones. Try eBay or Amazon, you'd be surprised how much crap they have lol

Elliesdaddy said:
So if i use a 5Gallon bucket although say 1Gallon is actually pebbles would the pot still act as a 5gallon container considering rootmass?

not exactly the roots will form as a brick in the clay pebbles while growing into the reservoir and then form a brick in the res, they wont use 100% of the pot space they'll act more like DWC.

Elliesdaddy · Apr 30, 2012

I'm still yet to find the equipment man this country actually sucks

Matchbox · Apr 30, 2012

lol yep but if you like making it up as you go along UK works just fine

just wander around fish shops for any air pumps and lines, B&Q or other DIY shop for PVC piping and eBay is your friend too XD

Elliesdaddy · Apr 30, 2012

That's very true... will have a look about

First flush tonight, hoping i have this right going to rinse them well i have about 80L's ready

Elliesdaddy · Apr 30, 2012

Coco was still damp when i put my finger an inch deep in it so i'm going to flush in the morning no point in watering if there is still some nuted water in the coco after all i'm guessing

Elliesdaddy · May 1, 2012

Didn't go to plan i've practically flooded my bathroom lol but apart from that first flush started

Elliesdaddy · May 1, 2012

Since flush...
Plant's leaning not terribly but it doesn't look too healthy i think the heads have got to heavy from my next point
Humidity at 79%...:/

Elliesdaddy · May 2, 2012

Humidity i have been able to get down to 45%... but the slanting of the plant's isn't too good, it's mainly the pure AK i'm worried about it's slanting terribly and 2 big colas are actually lop shaped now(starting straight and curving at the top) will tie string around the plant's stem at the bottom to try and hold it in a better position. other than that bud growth is good, ordering 420 scope now website say's it should be here tomorrow getting some cheeky kings and bluntzillas aswell

going to have a good harvest

Matchbox · May 2, 2012

just keep em supported, sounds like the buds are getting too heavy for the stems

let them dry out a bit before next rinse out and you'll be golden.

And keep an eye on that humidity, it's one of the dangerous things you can't have too high this late in flower, 45% is ok lower would be better but I've flowered in 50-60% before (with mould resistant indicas).

Elliesdaddy · May 2, 2012

I got it down to 39% won't know what actions to take until i see them tonight but i will let them but i think it won't be dry untill the start of the 8th week so i should be able to fit 2 more flushes in

JASON79 · May 2, 2012

have you tried turning your intake off as the should drop your humility.
and put more fans in the room if you can, this will help prevent mold

i live in uk and just put my plants in flower in a dwc, i built my self, most parts from a good fish shop,and rest from diy shop, very easy to set up
but the tempter will pick up soon and not good to flower between July -September without air con and a chiller for nutes in the containers/buckets,
it will be better to go for a sativa dominated hybrid strain in coco/soil as your room can easy hit 35c+
and in hydro could wipe your crop out easy or reduce your yield
a sativa dominated strain in coco/soil likes more heat and so you should end up with a higher yield

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