Please help!!! Feminized white widow with problems!!!

cbclamp56

Active Member
IMG_0397[1].jpgIMG_0398[1].jpg
This plant was recently replanted would like to know what may be the problem with it. The soil's ph is at 6.5 and have not overwatered nor under watered. I was thinking stress from the replant and maybe the soil is too hot for the young plant, its foxfarm ocean forest This is the only plant I have that is having problems I have a c99 that looks gorgeous and two Liberty hazes that are doing well but this one is looking rough. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 

Scopse

Active Member
You watered her in when you repotted? I'm pretty confident she'll be fine if you just leave her atleast a couple of days to adjust.
 

MrGhettoGrower

Well-Known Member
What did you start'em in? It's looks bad not much you can do. Maybe save the dirt and start another one if you have time. I start my in sunshine mix 4 for the first two weeks then I put'em into the ffof. I've always start extra seeds cause everyone has a bad one or two.
 

cbclamp56

Active Member
You watered her in when you repotted? I'm pretty confident she'll be fine if you just leave her atleast a couple of days to adjust.
Yes I watered her in when I repotted and she is showing new growth still I just can't figure out what is wrong with her. She is 10 days old. I hope she is ok I am going to leave her until either she gets better or croaks. I really appreciate the response.
 

cbclamp56

Active Member
What did you start'em in? It's looks bad not much you can do. Maybe save the dirt and start another one if you have time. I start my in sunshine mix 4 for the first two weeks then I put'em into the ffof. I've always start extra seeds cause everyone has a bad one or two.
She got started in the same soil and was doing fine until I replanted her. That is why I was thinking maybe the replant was just too stressful being that she was so young. I have 3 others just not White Widow. They look ok and my c99 is 20 days old and looks great and was started the same way.
IMG_0393[1].jpgthis is the c99 btw and is doing great growing everyday.
And thank you very much for the response I really appreciate it.
 

MrGhettoGrower

Well-Known Member
I didn't have any luck starting seeds in the ffof I start in Sunshine Mix 4 starting with 18 oz cups 1 week plain water, start of week 2 transplant 1 gallon pots stil Sunshine Mix 4 with a mild feedings 300 ppps of sensi grow after they dryout from that they're ready for the ffof in the 5 gallon pots ffof with plain water when they dry out from that I start my feeding but some grower wait I don't 2nd week in the ffof I feed about 900 ppms sensi grow with the voodoo juice and the other stuff B-62 after that water then they ready for flowering nutes~
 

Randm

Active Member
fox farm soil is a bit hot for young plants. I grew WW a couple of years back and the first thing I noticed is that they do not like much in the way of nutes. I had to use about 1/2 strength nutes on my ww compared to other strains that I raised. Yours will probebly be fine, just let them use up the nutriants that are already in the soil befor feeding them anything that had nitrogen in it. I found using flowering nutes ( low N ) instead of grow nutes helped.
 

cbclamp56

Active Member
@MrGhettoGrower

Yeah I knew that it may be rough starting in the foxfarm but I kind of just ordered it all and then did it all at once. My other plants aren't having any trouble and I actually think this one is going to survive she is just going to be stunted until she gets through this. I am kind of glad that it happened young so I can give her time to build energy.
 

cbclamp56

Active Member
@Randm
I have been giving nothing but pure water and making sure that I let the soil dry before I rewater. She is still showing new growth and the new growth actually is looking like it maybe getting better still not where it is supposed to be though. I am going to wait it out and see and I don't plan on giving any of my girls full strength nutes ever. I am going to start out with very low and go up as I feel they need it. I am making sure the ph is balanced and keeping the temperature optimal. I think like you say she will pull through and be fine just got to give her time. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
 

Edgar9

Well-Known Member
I had a mad scientist seedling that looked like that and ended up fine. I think it's just a runt. Anytime I've started 3 seeds there's always one plant that takes off, another that is a little bit of a runt and one in the middle. I think it's just a runt type that has some growing pains to get through. The leaves look exactly like mine did. I think no matter what you did it was going to end up like this.

Do you use the paper towel method by any chance? I used to use the paper towel method and I remember a couple times I dropped the seed on the floor by accident after it germed thereby f'ing with the tap root. It only happened a couple of times so I am dealing with a small sample but I could swear those times when I did F with the tap root by mistake the plant ended up not being very happy and was a smaller, runt like plant. Granted I'm dealing with a small sample so it may have been a coincedence but it seems to be widely agreed upon that if you F with the tap root you can have problems down the line.
 

cbclamp56

Active Member
@Edgar9
No I just soaked the seed and put them straight into the soil. I soaked for 12 hrs and then made a hole about an inch deep and dropped them in. I did use the paper towel method with some seeds before and they just never took so I figured I'd just do it as close as how nature intended it and just germinate them by putting them directly in the soil. It actually worked better for me than the paper towel method I planted 5 and 4 came up. They looked fine and then I replanted into different containers because they were all in one big container and that is where my problems began. Next time I do this I am going to hold off on the foxfarm and use a basic soil to start with minimal nutes then replant when they are about 3 weeks old. I have 2 liberty hazes that look fine and a c99 that is growing like crazy but she is a little older than the others shes at 21 days and is like 8 inches tall and very bushy.
 

cbclamp56

Active Member
@HotShot7471
Yeah the plant seems to be doing better there is new growth and the stem is getting thicker. I think she is going to be fine just got to give her time. Just had me worried because I did nothing differently from the other except that it is a different strain. I guess either that makes all the difference or this seed had some defects.
 
I'm a newbie as well and I'm growing white widows too, ALSO using fox farm ocean forest. (ffof)
To find out which method worked best I planted 3 seeds in 3 different ways.
I planted 1 in a (hydro farm jump start biodegradable) pellet, one in plain ffof dirt, and one in a half filled pot of ffof, put the expanded pellet in, and filled up the edges evenly to the top of the pellet.
1. ffof dirt: having trouble popping and I fear it may die.
2. ffof + pellet: growing, popped 2 days before the others and growing strong
3. pellet: Surprisingly it's growing but just barely getting ready to pop, it looks in better condition than the one in plain ffof but not growing as quickly as my now 2 1/2 inch tall Ww in the ffof dirt + pellet.

I also did this test with a non-marijuana plant at the same time and got the same results.
My conclusion is that as a seedling:
In the pellet, it will grow, but slowly.
In ffof, it will grow slowly but die soon due to over nutrition.
In the pellet + ffof, it will absorb the proper levels of nutrients while filtering out some of the bigger chunks resulting in much quicker and healthier growth.

My only concern is when the roots reach through the pellet and into the ffof... I hope it's not too early for my little plant by then.
I'll update in a week or so. :)
 

cbclamp56

Active Member
@shadeforlife
I like that method next time I will do this seems to be a good method and makes sense. The only reason that I did it this way is because I have a c99 plant that is doing awesome in just the foxfarm. She is 22 days old and I am now using lst to make sure that she stays low but she is really looking great I am very excited about her.
 

SpicySativa

Well-Known Member
Hmm... That could be overfed, or you may have a mutant. The way those nodes are stacked up just looks wonky to me. Not a whole lot you can do other than water only and wait...

Let us know how it goes!
 

cbclamp56

Active Member
Hmm... That could be overfed, or you may have a mutant. The way those nodes are stacked up just looks wonky to me. Not a whole lot you can do other than water only and wait...

Let us know how it goes!
Thanks for the advice. I don't really know either it's just strange but she does seem to be doing better but slow. I am hoping that she decides to take and just busts out. lol. I will keep updates on her coming I was just trying to let her go a few days because I was driving myself insane trying to figure out the problem but now I've just decided the best thing to do, like you said, is to wait and see.
 
@shadeforlife
I like that method next time I will do this seems to be a good method and makes sense. The only reason that I did it this way is because I have a c99 plant that is doing awesome in just the foxfarm. She is 22 days old and I am now using lst to make sure that she stays low but she is really looking great I am very excited about her.
Ya, my little seedling in ffof finally came up, I'm sure he'll live but he popped 4 days later than all the others.
So my best guess now is that ffof was a bit of a shock in how high the nutes were, but not life threatening for it. My seedling is growing healthy now but he started to pop, then started to die (very close call), and then came up late.


Fortunately for the one in the pellet + ffof I guess it sorta got used to a steady flow of nutes before his roots hit the ffof and he's growing really healthy.

So I'm guessing your plant was just shocked by the nutes and mainly the transplant itself.
Is it okay now?

You can barely see it in that pic... but that's when it first popped and you know that's not how a Ww should look like when it pops, And it stayed like that for about 2 days (no growth at all) which is also not normal.
 

Attachments

Top