Please Help me with cloning???

cues

cues

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Yellowing lower leaves is normal indoor, even in veg. Outdoors, it happens later. Don't even try to compare plants growing under lights to those grown outside. The growth stages are very different, even with the same strain. It's to do with the distance from the light and the power of the light source. 2 foot away from a bulb is twice as far as 1 foot. 1 hundred million and one foot away from the sun is not twice as far as 1 hundred million foot away. Hope that makes sense. Put it this way, you may scrog a plant under a 600w hps that is 30cm high at flowering, no leaves left, looks like sh1t and puts out 8 oz. You could grow the same plant outside and have a 10ft monster.......that puts out 8 oz. Generally, if a plant dies from bottom to top, it's over-watering. If it dies from top to bottom, it's under-watering. However, ALWAYS expect a plant to lose some leaves (especially fan-leaves) from the bottom. Don't see a few leaves yellowing at the bottom and slow the watering down unless you really think there is a problem.
 
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cues said:
Yellowing lower leaves is normal indoor, even in veg. Outdoors, it happens later. Don't even try to compare plants growing under lights to those grown outside. The growth stages are very different, even with the same strain. It's to do with the distance from the light and the power of the light source. 2 foot away from a bulb is twice as far as 1 foot. 1 hundred million and one foot away from the sun is not twice as far as 1 hundred million foot away. Hope that makes sense. Put it this way, you may scrog a plant under a 600w hps that is 30cm high at flowering, no leaves left, looks like sh1t and puts out 8 oz. You could grow the same plant outside and have a 10ft monster.......that puts out 8 oz. Generally, if a plant dies from bottom to top, it's over-watering. If it dies from top to bottom, it's under-watering. However, ALWAYS expect a plant to lose some leaves (especially fan-leaves) from the bottom. Don't see a few leaves yellowing at the bottom and slow the watering down unless you really think there is a problem.
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i didnt get why do u think i am comparing outdoor and indoor , it just happened that i have 3 outdoors and one indoor... and i said them outdoors are looking shity :) that all ... as for ur comparison , u didnt calculated earth and sun orbit change in the corse of one year ... its pretty drastic , that is why we have winters and summers , judging by the things going on in my head i would say , the sun is 1/3 closer to the earth in the summer than it is in the winter , but u are gonna want to check that out , i haven't been in space :)) i guess ur point is that outdoor plants have even light no matter what , and that indoors cant be that tall cuz of light degradation , pretty simple stuff , thoth every1 knew that

nuff withe the chit chat , i wanna inform u guys that i think i got a fing male on my first grow, by the end of the week all be positive about that, them 3 from outdoor are all i got left , 3 shity plants and 200-300 buks bill ...i should have gone to my diler and both me self some smoke for that money :)
 
ANC

ANC

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The harder you cut back your mother (leaving two oposing growtips on every stem), the thicker the cloneable stems will come out, at least in theory.
 
cues

cues

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Maybe that's why the outside ones looked worse. Males tend to grow faster. Also a lot more pests and disease outside.
Sorry about the bad news but it's not 200 bucks lost. It's 200 bucks learnt ;-). Should encourage you to get the cloning right.
p.s. The distance from the sun to earth only varies by about 3.5%. It's nothing to do with winter and summer! If it was, how would summer in the UK and winter in Australia occur at the same time. Seasons are due to the tilt of the earth relative to the sun. Put simply, when the sun is directly overhead, it's light is more concentrated than when it's low in the sky, as the lumens are concentrated into a smaller area.
 
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