I hear everything that you guys are saying about auto's...they are a new breed and I haven't had a lot of experience growing them, or any type for that matter... (thatguy113) I understand what you are saying about the distance and the lighting, but I do believe that the problem still stems from using the well water that has went through a water softener. I added plenty of nutes to the system and I have a pretty tight regiment that I follow for watering and feeding, but none of that does any good when your roots are locked up from an (unthought about salt build-up) from the softened water... I'm going to give it one more try with the last La Diva Auto that I have... Going to be running under CFL's though because my new box is going to be occupied by a Hollands Hope, Pineapple Chunk, and a Widow Bomb for starting my summer outdoor setup...gotta get them big enough to pull a half dozen clones from each one...So for now the auto's are just gonna have to wait...