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getogrow

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ONLY you knows how long it takes to dry out. thats the hard part. james is close by saying once every 5 days ish..... thats a good guess for a small plant in a 3 gallon pot. (the bottom half of the pot is staying soaked when the top drys out. )
top soil is great to ammend other dirt but by itself its rock hard. makes it kinda tough for roots to do good. (when you water , how much runs out the bottom ?
 

scaribblez

New Member
3 Gal container is big for a 3-week old plant. Next time stay in a smaller container and move up as the plant grows. 1 gal is large enough for the first 4 weeks and it will allow for the pot to dry out between watering. You shouldn't water every day. In a 1 gal I would suggest you water every 3 days. In a 3 gal once every 5 days or when the leaves start to droop. Topsoil from Walmart will grow some stuff, but not good cannabis. Foxfarm makes great soil for cannabis and there are many other better options. Is your light a Purple LED or White light? Whats the brand?
it is a full spectrum led looks pink. the brand is.... idk15550797991691945544376778724239.jpg 15550798555835018311386450479647.jpg
 

scaribblez

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ONLY you knows how long it takes to dry out. thats the hard part. james is close by saying once every 5 days ish..... thats a good guess for a small plant in a 3 gallon pot. (the bottom half of the pot is staying soaked when the top drys out. )
top soil is great to ammend other dirt but by itself its rock hard. makes it kinda tough for roots to do good. (when you water , how much runs out the bottom ?
about an inch runs off into the bottom tray
ONLY you knows how long it takes to dry out. thats the hard part. james is close by saying once every 5 days ish..... thats a good guess for a small plant in a 3 gallon pot. (the bottom half of the pot is staying soaked when the top drys out. )
top soil is great to ammend other dirt but by itself its rock hard. makes it kinda tough for roots to do good. (when you water , how much runs out the bottom ?
about an inch runs off into bottom tray. also i planted from seed into the 3gallon its not a replant
 

NirvanaMesa

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Bro, you need to wait a week or more with that kind of soggy dirt to water. Quit fertilizing and let it dry out then flush your soil with rain water once and then let dry again for a week or however long it takes for the pot to feel light. Then resume your mild feeding less often.
 

scaribblez

New Member
Bro, you need to wait a week or more with that kind of soggy dirt to water. Quit fertilizing and let it dry out then flush your soil with rain water once and then let dry again for a week or however long it takes for the pot to feel light. Then resume your mild feeding less often.
thanks ill do that im jus so impatient
 

scaribblez

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should i put the epsom salt regularly in the feedings or is it like a 1 time thing?? ill post more pics later on as we see what happens thanks alot for ur help guys
 

NirvanaMesa

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Overwatering happens a lot. Its not just you. You got to resist the urge to keep watering and feeding and just leave the plants alone and do their thing. You can let the pot dry almost all the way out. Just pick ut up and see how heavy it feels and decide if its dry or not.
 

NirvanaMesa

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should i put the epsom salt regularly in the feedings or is it like a 1 time thing?? ill post more pics later on as we see what happens thanks alot for ur help guys
Dont add more salts to you plant, its the opposite of what it needs now. Internet is full of bad advice.
 

getogrow

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I hate to start off on other stuff when you need help but we dont need bumping heads on this. "flushing" does not work in soil and that plant is not "burnt" , its hungry. The wet soil has the food locked out. DO NOT FLUSH. Let her dry out a lil (most of us use the weight of the pot to determine if its dry or not) then feed her with a full dose of JJ grow only. (you also cant test ph of dirt. not accurately anyways. throw the ph up and down in the trash. )
 

scaribblez

New Member
I hate to start off on other stuff when you need help but we dont need bumping heads on this. "flushing" does not work in soil and that plant is not "burnt" , its hungry. The wet soil has the food locked out. DO NOT FLUSH. Let her dry out a lil (most of us use the weight of the pot to determine if its dry or not) then feed her with a full dose of JJ grow only. (you also cant test ph of dirt. not accurately anyways. throw the ph up and down in the trash. )
i was wonderin cuz i can never get the dirt ph to stay below 7 even if the water is it always goes back to almost 7
 

getogrow

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Some new guys like to use the moisture meter , its can tell you that its wet on the bottom. The ph of the soil in the pot is always going to stay around the same unless you poison it BADLY. If you feed with 8.9 , then your soil will buffer it down to 7 or lower no matter what. If you feed with 5.0 the soil will buffer it up to 7 ish. As far as flushing goes , you cant just run water through soil and expect it to "rinse" the food out. It dont work that way. The food molacules are attached to the soil , not just sitting there. Soil is not easy , thats why most switch to hydro.
 

NirvanaMesa

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You dont think salts can be flushed from soil?

Soil is way easier than hydro. All you have to do is moderate your watering and feeding and it takes care of itself. I swear you are full of bad advice.
 

getogrow

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You dont think salts can be flushed from soil?

Soil is way easier than hydro. All you have to do is moderate your watering and feeding and it takes care of itself. I swear you are full of bad advice.
No , the salts cannot be "flushed away" magic is impossible. The nutes bind to the soil, they do not just run out the bottom. Flushing can be helpful but not on 99% of these reefer plants that are "burnt". Flushing will overwater the plant to death ....that plant is hungry not burnt. pay attention you may learn something.
 

NirvanaMesa

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Its hilarious, I grow plants for a living. The plant has been fed and watered too much. Dont add more salts to it.

Let us know how it goes bud. Post some pics and let us know what you end up doing.
 

NirvanaMesa

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Heres a pic of my plant I just harvested a few weeks ago. Its in plain potting soil in a 15gal pot. I only fertilized a bit when making the soil. And then a couple teaspoons of bloom fertilizer in flower. I never measure the PH of anything or the ppms or measure the soil wetness. All I did was water once a week and use some patience. Then flush it with rainwater a couple weeks prior to harvest. I put almost no effort in to this plant. All you have to do is let it grow itself and you can get amazing weed. 20190302_171158.jpg

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pulpoinspace

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3 gallon container. its topsoil from walmart. the plant is 3weeks old. the light is 16in from canopy. im using the 3 part jungle juice and i only put half of what it recommends on the bottle. i use a litre of aquafina everyday with nutrients added and ph'd to 6.5.
what is ec
hey man. i went on to walmarts website and searched for topsoil. you mean Scott's topsoil? or Walmart garden soil? it's really important not to use garden soil in container gardening. looking at your picture i do not see any perlite at all in your soil and i'm thinking this is what happened. in-ground garden soil doesn't have adequate drainage to be used in container gardening. you need potting soil. look for a soil that is peat moss/perlite/amendments (if you chose). you want the soil to be 30%-50% perlite to have adequate drainage. some good ones are Fox Farm Ocean Forest or Roots Organic Original Potting Mix. If you can't get those, most potting mixes will do. You can always buy a bag of perlite and mix it into any potting soil to further improve the drainage capacity. In-ground garden soil will not dry in a container and your plants will die.

EC stands for electrical conductivity and is a very useful way to check how much nutrients you've added to your water. for $15 on amazon, https://www.amazon.com/Professional-TDS-Combines-EC-Hydroponics/dp/B01FPG89CE, you can get this to start feeding/watering like a pro. they're not finicky like pH meters, they work consistently. For young plants you want to feed at around 1EC and for big flowering plants you'll feed up to 1.5-2EC. However, if you chose to go with a potting soil that has fertilizers pre-mixed in you will not add nutrients to your water until your plants need it which is often over a month with quality potting soil. These measurements are similar to the commonly used PPM but are more accurate so most growers prefer to use EC. But if you'd like to use PPM most meters have a simple conversion of .5 to show you that measure (500 ppm = 1.0EC or 1000EC)
 
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getogrow

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First off nirvana, BEAUTIFUL plant ! thats how to show RIU HEALTHY! Great job with your soil ! You can see in the pic that there is plenty of food left in your soil or it would be dead and yellowed out like a hydro guys finished room. hahahahah. That's what im saying about "flushing". I'm in no way trying to be a dick. I'm just saying that "flushing" didn't flush out the salts from your plant so its not going to work on his unhealthy plant.
The main thing is what pulp said. He needs perlite or a good soil for aeration.

Everyone worrying so much about PH should refer to nirvanas post and pics.

soil:bigjoint:
 

NirvanaMesa

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Flushing dirt absolutely leaches salts away. That pic was taken when I did the flush and plant was harvested a few weeks later. Yeah its not like fushing perlite or hydroton but you can definitely do a reset on your soil with water. Its best to use warm rain water to disolve and rinse out salts. We can agree to disagree on that one. I actually have a farm and nursery business. One of the main problems with water soluable fertilizers is they leach out so quickly. Thats why they are best to use in small quantity often. And its good to rinse potted plants out as they develop salt deposits on the bottom of the pot. This isnt a huge problem for cannabis since it has such a short lifecycle.

Anyway, for sure you need potting mix with perlite in it and need to let it dry out. Thats a given. They have potting mix at home depot or walmart etc. Its best to get the kind with no fertilizer if you are going to be using even more fertilizers on it right away.

Good luck bud let us know how it goes.
 
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