Please Ipban me or tell me what went wrong

racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
this is what i tried explaining in the other thread sicility.. they used to ban members here left and right, only for them to return moments later under a new user name, only this time they have a hard on for more then likely a mod or another member whom ended up getting them banned to begin with..
it's all too easy for someone to start a new email addy and use say an ip blocker and come back under a new name, so now they let members stay longer imo and simply try and edit / delete any / all offending posts made by that member, and often times will tell that member via pm that they're getting out of hand and to take a chill pill..
often times that's enough to knock some sense into the member, sometimes it's not.. what would you suggest on top of this to be done?
 
Silicity

Silicity

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racerboy71 said:
this is what i tried explaining in the other thread sicility.. they used to ban members here left and right, only for them to return moments later under a new user name, only this time they have a hard on for more then likely a mod or another member whom ended up getting them banned to begin with..
it's all too easy for someone to start a new email addy and use say an ip blocker and come back under a new name, so now they let members stay longer imo and simply try and edit / delete any / all offending posts made by that member, and often times will tell that member via pm that they're getting out of hand and to take a chill pill..
often times that's enough to knock some sense into the member, sometimes it's not.. what would you suggest on top of this to be done?
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More active staff overall, I have heard what you are saying before and I totally understand, but what im trying to get across to people is its still not enough, flame continues in threads and the ppsts dont get removed, im am only 1 person and I m trying to get others with suggestions to this to post and help us all out, I cant be the only one coming up with solutions, we need to come together to help figure this problem out, obviously not enough people are posting but that doesnt mean the thread needs to be closed, there is still a lot of people who havent said there 2 cents on the matter, instead of us all fighting about this we need to figure better solutions, there are ways out there to help I just cant be the only one trying to come up with solutions, the community needs to discuss this.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
i for one appreciate when any member cares enough about the site to want to better things siclity, so my hat's off to you m8.. :D

but as far as un-active mods, i am pretty sure that potroast has a time limit as to how long he'll keep a mod a mod if they haven't logged on in x amount of days.. i'm not positive on this, but i'm pretty sure i've seen a few people who were mods get un-modded due to inactivity..
i know that i for one spend a lot of time on here atm, but i have my reasons for doing so, mainly being laid off atm.. i know if i were working, i'd more then likely be spending 12 hours at work and much less time here.. i'm sure this is the case with each and every mod.. we all can only do as much as we can, and i'm sure everyone of us spends as much time on here as their days (lives) will allow them to do so..
 
Silicity

Silicity

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racerboy71 said:
i for one appreciate when any member cares enough about the site to want to better things siclity, so my hat's off to you m8.. :D

but as far as un-active mods, i am pretty sure that potroast has a time limit as to how long he'll keep a mod a mod if they haven't logged on in x amount of days.. i'm not positive on this, but i'm pretty sure i've seen a few people who were mods get un-modded due to inactivity..
i know that i for one spend a lot of time on here atm, but i have my reasons for doing so, mainly being laid off atm.. i know if i were working, i'd more then likely be spending 12 hours at work and much less time here.. i'm sure this is the case with each and every mod.. we all can only do as much as we can, and i'm sure everyone of us spends as much time on here as their days (lives) will allow them to do so..
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I appreciate what your saying a lot so thanks, I just would like to have this thread open so we can over time get people to suggest ideas on how to make these forums a better place overall. This isnt a problem that can be fixed quick, its going to take time and peoples insight to the problem. Thanks again, and I hope people understand this isnt something that should be shrugged off and then them saying to man up, we can over time come up with ideas to help these forums overall and I hope everyone can understand this.
 
Figong

Figong

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Silicity said:
Lol, I have no idea still why people are against this, im trying to help these forums, nothing else... obviously the people that are against it are to blame. Why the fuck cant these forums be a nice place? Why????? Tell me, please fucking tell me, idc if mods get demoted or somebody gets promoted, I just want people to get along and instead of argueing we can help eachother. If people are against trying to make the forums a nicer place why dont you leave? Riu is a pretty cool forum but I dont and others dont need to deal with the flame.
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I am not against 'this' in general, or anything you've posted.. but as a tip, you may not want to start off an initial serious post as a hostage-type situation. I could cite from FBI criminal psych journals as examples, but it'd be easier to just say this: The use of "IP ban me or tell me what went wrong" starts off on a hostile tone - those words alone are saying "I will get what I want, or you can hang me".. There's no possible way that those words could be misunderstood for anything else. That said, many would take that to have a tone that's carrying massive attitude with it, and very well could respond negatively when all you're looking for is a sane or semi-sane answer to what had happened. Word choices make all the difference when the only 'tone' anything you type carries is caps lock, or not.

My .02
 
Silicity

Silicity

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Figong said:
I am not against 'this' in general, or anything you've posted.. but as a tip, you may not want to start off an initial serious post as a hostage-type situation. I could cite from FBI criminal psych journals as examples, but it'd be easier to just say this: The use of "IP ban me or tell me what went wrong" starts off on a hostile tone - those words alone are saying "I will get what I want, or you can hang me".. There's no possible way that those words could be misunderstood for anything else. That said, many would take that to have a tone that's carrying massive attitude with it, and very well could respond negatively when all you're looking for is a sane or semi-sane answer to what had happened. Word choices make all the difference when the only 'tone' anything you type carries is caps lock, or not.

My .02
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And I totally understand, my last thread was closed and thats why I started this one, if the other thread could be reopened and this one merged then a lot of information could be shown and we could all discuss it there. This thread was mostly started due to me being treated like shit from potroast and it eventually turned into what I was hoping thenother thread would become. Once again thank you so much for posting, its just how the thread turned it.
 
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racerboy71 said:
this is what i tried explaining in the other thread sicility.. they used to ban members here left and right, only for them to return moments later under a new user name, only this time they have a hard on for more then likely a mod or another member whom ended up getting them banned to begin with..
it's all too easy for someone to start a new email addy and use say an ip blocker and come back under a new name, so now they let members stay longer imo and simply try and edit / delete any / all offending posts made by that member, and often times will tell that member via pm that they're getting out of hand and to take a chill pill..
often times that's enough to knock some sense into the member, sometimes it's not.. what would you suggest on top of this to be done?
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Holy shit, a mod who knows how to answer this, THANK YOU Racer!

See now this is an acceptable answer. It makes sense, this forum is pretty huge and active that the % of the trolls is always gonna be around because of a majority of them can just change their IP. On a forum that isn't so active, it's much easier to ban flamers and trolls because it's easier to focus on just a few. So there was a time when they banned people for this, but like you said, there's really no point, hence the closing threads and deleted posts.
 
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Silicity said:
More active staff overall, I have heard what you are saying before and I totally understand, but what im trying to get across to people is its still not enough, flame continues in threads and the ppsts dont get removed, im am only 1 person and I m trying to get others with suggestions to this to post and help us all out, I cant be the only one coming up with solutions, we need to come together to help figure this problem out, obviously not enough people are posting but that doesnt mean the thread needs to be closed, there is still a lot of people who havent said there 2 cents on the matter, instead of us all fighting about this we need to figure better solutions, there are ways out there to help I just cant be the only one trying to come up with solutions, the community needs to discuss this.
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More mods could help, but I think in this case, it may be easier to just ignore people. I could care less about people trying to flame me, just shows their anger issues, I just wanted an answer. Should have been much simpler to answer than what I went thru with Dr. lol.
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

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There was a thread a while back that mentioned a block feature that could be used for the original thread poster to block members who troll their threads from participating on the thread in question. That makes perfect sence to me because it would virtually eliminate harassment and unwanted additions from a thread going in the intended direction. Unfortunately its not possible with the current operating system.
Its true that there are members that get out of hand from time to time but just like people have been saying, grow some rhino skin. If you are not giving sound advice you will be found, and im glad it happens. When i have a problem or question i search the archives for intellegent answers. Without occational flaming, advice from members like bmeat would just have to be accepted and those type of members would never learn to keep their mouths shut. Flaming also causes those members to get their ducks in a row before spouting off in the future. Even bmeat has been making more sence as of late and i believe it is due to the flaming hes been getting forcing him to educate himself because he wants to be here. That kids got some thick skin and the whiny bitches can take a page out of his book and suck it up. If you dont like being flamed, try harder or GTFO.
I think the original poster said somthing of trying to get a job as a moderator. I think that your chances are pretty slim if you think that RIU should be sunshine and lollipops. What we do hasnt always been as accepted as it is these days. Our craft has been taught by some pretty bad ass mother fuckers with diesel running through their veins and hearts as black as coal. Its a sad truth but truth none the less, deal with it. Racers right when he added that theres lots of trolling, angry, insulting members that are part of the community. Thats life, thats our community, to ban someone that has so much knowledge to give, over a couple of insults seems pointless to me also. Thats probably why you didnt get the mod job, acting like a princess. By the sounds of things you cant let things go and if thats how you roll then youd be banning people all the time and that would make you a bad mod.
Every action has a reaction and if you piss someone off they may bite back, or not, thats the chance you take playing this game. Theres not always a mod around when you need one. They dont get paid, this is a reality that costs a couple people daily some hurt feelings. Theres enough threads that if someone calls you a name or says fuck you one too many times you can just change the channel. Dont blame the mods because of your inability to turn your computer off :):):)
 
Silicity

Silicity

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Ninjabowler said:
There was a thread a while back that mentioned a block feature that could be used for the original thread poster to block members who troll their threads from participating on the thread in question. That makes perfect sence to me because it would virtually eliminate harassment and unwanted additions from a thread going in the intended direction. Unfortunately its not possible with the current operating system.
Its true that there are members that get out of hand from time to time but just like people have been saying, grow some rhino skin. If you are not giving sound advice you will be found, and im glad it happens. When i have a problem or question i search the archives for intellegent answers. Without occational flaming, advice from members like bmeat would just have to be accepted and those type of members would never learn to keep their mouths shut. Flaming also causes those members to get their ducks in a row before spouting off in the future. Even bmeat has been making more sence as of late and i believe it is due to the flaming hes been getting forcing him to educate himself because he wants to be here. That kids got some thick skin and the whiny bitches can take a page out of his book and suck it up. If you dont like being flamed, try harder or GTFO.
I think the original poster said somthing of trying to get a job as a moderator. I think that your chances are pretty slim if you think that RIU should be sunshine and lollipops. What we do hasnt always been as accepted as it is these days. Our craft has been taught by some pretty bad ass mother fuckers with diesel running through their veins and hearts as black as coal. Its a sad truth but truth none the less, deal with it. Racers right when he added that theres lots of trolling, angry, insulting members that are part of the community. Thats life, thats our community, to ban someone that has so much knowledge to give, over a couple of insults seems pointless to me also. Thats probably why you didnt get the mod job, acting like a princess. By the sounds of things you cant let things go and if thats how you roll then youd be banning people all the time and that would make you a bad mod.
Every action has a reaction and if you piss someone off they may bite back, or not, thats the chance you take playing this game. Theres not always a mod around when you need one. They dont get paid, this is a reality that costs a couple people daily some hurt feelings. Theres enough threads that if someone calls you a name or says fuck you one too many times you can just change the channel. Dont blame the mods because of your inability to turn your computer off :):):)
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Not trying to be staff, would turn the position down anyways. Not going to comment further as my other posts have it covered.
 
drolove

drolove

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Silicity said:
Thought about it for a couple minutes, my thread was closed for no reason, I had a lot of information that would actually help staff overall, wasnt flaming and if it was taken as flame then these forums are a lost cause. I post a suggestion and there was much left unsaid and it got closed for no reason, suggestion wasnt over and I was within the rules to state what I said.

If theres no valid explanation and staff feels if that my post was a joke, please ip ban me. I try and help and It gets shunned and staff once again turns a blind eye.
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mods are getting crazy these days and deleting threads left and right. its really become quite a big issue in the last few weeks. ive made several comments myself about it. just because people are arguing about something they feel the need to either close and or delete the thread completely rather than MODERATE the thread like they are supposed to. they should come in and at least ask people to stop arguing first but they are getting lazy and just deleting whole threads so they dont have to deal with it...
 
Silicity

Silicity

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Havent noticed It that much drolove but much appreciated, should be discussed and thought about, thanks for the suggestion. Also thanks for the "block" method, it sounds like a nice feature, now how could we incorporate it into what there is now?
 
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