please someone help my babies are dieing I dont know what to do
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Walter9999
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So nothing has changed except the addition of nutes??? Looks and sounds like you toasted it...sorry
furnz
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Way to young to feed unless your soil less.
Even that young of a plant could easily be burnt up by full strength soils.
Could try to transplant (carefully remove and rinse off medium) into a medium that's cut with something without fertilizers (pearlite,peat, promix..) or premade light seedling mix (Light Warrior).
Unless you just watered an noticed this or your medium is dry , I wouldn't flush or your most likely going to get over watering symptoms with a plant that small in that pot size, and that will prob finish it off.
Even that young of a plant could easily be burnt up by full strength soils.
Could try to transplant (carefully remove and rinse off medium) into a medium that's cut with something without fertilizers (pearlite,peat, promix..) or premade light seedling mix (Light Warrior).
Unless you just watered an noticed this or your medium is dry , I wouldn't flush or your most likely going to get over watering symptoms with a plant that small in that pot size, and that will prob finish it off.
D: sorry to see that bro
I agree with the others. It looks like you fed too much nitrogen, seeing how things are super dark green. I usually wait till several full nodes have developed before feeding in soil. FFoF is a great soil to use, and its got all your girls need for a while.
I dont think you can save that one, but I wish you luck! GL on your next plant!
I agree with the others. It looks like you fed too much nitrogen, seeing how things are super dark green. I usually wait till several full nodes have developed before feeding in soil. FFoF is a great soil to use, and its got all your girls need for a while.
I dont think you can save that one, but I wish you luck! GL on your next plant!
Arris
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FF is a good soil to transplant too not start a seed in. the shit is hot and almost every noob I have seen thats has used it to start seeds have burnt their plants. Your plant will have enough food in it's cotyledons alone for a week or so.
Ummm... I plant from seed in FFoF *all* the time. No burn at all, just dont feed till you have a few nodes built. The soil works great.
Arris
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Again I state "Noobs" not someone who knows what they're doing. FF is no f good for fresh green horns because they always want to feed their plants right from the getgo and don't realize that the(FF) dirt is hot. This is just my opinion.
i use OF for most of my grows and it works fine, and this is the first thread that someone hasnt said CalMg in the first 4 responses.
Arris
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LOL really I haven't noticed. But cal/mag is a must with every feeding. I do it religiously.
MD914
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I start seeds and freshly rooted clones in FFOF...I've even put cuttings straight into it and they've rooted. The only time I change my soil (it's not dirt) is for flowering and then I use a hopped up version of FFOF
I get what your saying but I have to disagree with you, newbs feeding their plants too early is going to screw up their plants regardless of the medium they're in
I don't touch the stuff
MD914
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I agree with Fernz...if you flush that little plant your sure to finish it off...what size is that container? When WAS the last time you watered?
Arris
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I am a 44 year old that grows old school style MH/HPS and follow basic rules and have had nothing but success, anything other than water is dirt to me. I have used FF soil(dirt) myself and it is great if you use it right but buying pre-mix is a bad idea because it may not have been mixed right, got old or some other silly thing(you're better off making your own soil). I grow only from seed and never done clones ever. My point was that noobs tend to love their plants to much. They don't know how the plant really grows. I start seed from a plate between a few pieces of toilet paper until they crack then to a plug until I see a tap root then to the net pots and no food until I say so lol, about a week. Noobs seem to think a plant needs food as soon as they sprout. The cotyledons alone will feed the plant for a few day's at any measure. I usually go with no nutes until I see a problem with my plants. My wife say's I'm stingy because I usually wait too long and I end up with problems..I start seeds and freshly rooted clones in FFOF...I've even put cuttings straight into it and they've rooted. The only time I change my soil (it's not dirt) is for flowering and then I use a hopped up version of FFOF
I get what your saying but I have to disagree with you, newbs feeding their plants too early is going to screw up their plants regardless of the medium they're in
I don't touch the stuff
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ElfoodStampo
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I agree with previous posts that you over fertilized, but its a strong looking little guy. It cant have that much rot mass for as big as it is, so i would gingerly remove the plant from that bucket, wash the roots in some water and throw it in some new really moist medium, IDK what your using. Its hard to see how big it is exactly. if its above 2 inches tall it should make it.
Lay off the nutes!!
MD914
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I grow old school organics and cannot express enough the importance of a healthy SOIL
As I said, I get what your saying but it's the problem not the product...newbs over feed and over water regardless of the medium...
I just don't like seeing people being discouraged from using a awesome product when they should simply be schooled on not feeding so much/so young and not to water so much...
I was in promix and got in trouble feeding too much cal mag...switched to FFOF 5 weeks in flower and never looked back.
That being said, you have nothing but success until you start having problems?
Me too
Arris
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By the looks of the pics I have to say it is in a cup. But I think the plant is dead, but he can certainly try and transplant and it might come back but usually when I see a plant that bad no matter the amount of love they don't make it and if they do they produce nothing.I agree with previous posts that you over fertilized, but its a strong looking little guy. It cant have that much rot mass for as big as it is, so i would gingerly remove the plant from that bucket, wash the roots in some water and throw it in some new really moist medium, IDK what your using. Its hard to see how big it is exactly. if its above 2 inches tall it should make it.
Lay off the nutes!!
ElfoodStampo
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No way, its gotta be bigger than that, compare the stalk to the size of the perilite or whatever the white stuff in the soil is. Its something like a 5 gal flower pot.
ElfoodStampo
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Its Hard not to like you when you talk soil like this..I grow old school organics and cannot express enough the importance of a healthy SOIL
As I said, I get what your saying but it's the problem not the product...newbs over feed and over water regardless of the medium...
I just don't like seeing people being discouraged from using a awesome product when they should simply be schooled on not feeding so much/so young and not to water so much...
I was in promix and got in trouble feeding too much cal mag...switched to FFOF 5 weeks in flower and never looked back.
That being said, you have nothing but success until you start having problems?
Me too
Jesus Christ............It's NOT damn ROcket Science............it's a frigging weed bro................about impossible to kill one...........your close.............lol.........
You can save it easily...............prepare another pot, even use FFOF if you want. Squeeze the sides of it's pot real well to break the dirt loose............
Hand over the plant and soil, flip the pot over, squeeze the pot until the whole dirt/root ball comes out in your hand.
Have a big pot of WARM............you know warm, NOT cold, NOT hot........WARM...............water handy. GENTLY put the dirt/roots into the water
and slowly break away all the dirt. Do it slow n gentle, simple to do. You MAY touch and rub the roots, just be careful, they are fragile. Get all the dirt off
the roots..............pop it up in down in the water, (only the roots, plant NEVER in the water) letting the roots float n sway in the warm water washing them clean...
Transplant into your fresh soil( NO NUTES) and give it a SMALL hit of filtered PH correct water. Put it in 75-80 % light area...........2 days it's fine.
BTW...................do I think it will work...............YES............EVERY time I come from seed I start in dirt............Dixie cups............then 10-14 days later,
into the 'dro.................NEVER lost one due to handling roots or transplanting................roots will be FINE even with you rubbing on them, the light hitting them
and the shock of new home. You would not believe how well I soak the roots BEFORE putting ANYTHING into my 'dro systems. NO WAY having any dirt
or foreign matter in the system. The lil suckers are TOUGH.................take the 10 minutes to go do this............then chill out.............all will be just fine.
P.S. DO NOT mist the plant.........................
Good luck to your little plant......................
You can save it easily...............prepare another pot, even use FFOF if you want. Squeeze the sides of it's pot real well to break the dirt loose............
Hand over the plant and soil, flip the pot over, squeeze the pot until the whole dirt/root ball comes out in your hand.
Have a big pot of WARM............you know warm, NOT cold, NOT hot........WARM...............water handy. GENTLY put the dirt/roots into the water
and slowly break away all the dirt. Do it slow n gentle, simple to do. You MAY touch and rub the roots, just be careful, they are fragile. Get all the dirt off
the roots..............pop it up in down in the water, (only the roots, plant NEVER in the water) letting the roots float n sway in the warm water washing them clean...
Transplant into your fresh soil( NO NUTES) and give it a SMALL hit of filtered PH correct water. Put it in 75-80 % light area...........2 days it's fine.
BTW...................do I think it will work...............YES............EVERY time I come from seed I start in dirt............Dixie cups............then 10-14 days later,
into the 'dro.................NEVER lost one due to handling roots or transplanting................roots will be FINE even with you rubbing on them, the light hitting them
and the shock of new home. You would not believe how well I soak the roots BEFORE putting ANYTHING into my 'dro systems. NO WAY having any dirt
or foreign matter in the system. The lil suckers are TOUGH.................take the 10 minutes to go do this............then chill out.............all will be just fine.
P.S. DO NOT mist the plant.........................
Good luck to your little plant......................
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