PolarBoar's First ever grow (Warning: May Contain Large Amounts of Hoboishness)

PolarBoar

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Whatsup Bros! Polarboar is here to give you a super awsome journal of my first ever grow, Im Very new to this, so any help is wanted.

Details:

Strain: Unknown, these seeds were in my dresser for about 3 months.

Germ method: Wet towel

Soil: Angel And honey Have miracle grow, Well Armageddon And Trixie Have Expert gardener potting Soil.

Lights: 1 40W 4ft Flourescent, And 1 16ishW CFL

Light Cycle: 24/0


I Have lurked many growing fourms learning how to do this somewhat, However me being and poor and irish and spending all mah money On a new fancy computer has left me with little to no money to invest in this project


The Growbox:
Its pretty ghetto.
Growbox.jpg

Its a fishtank, one side is coverd in foil.


The Plants:
There Currently about 8 days old.

Trixie:
Trixie.jpg
Trixie Was the last plant to sprout, she's also growing the slowest


Armageddon:
Armageddon.jpg
Armageddon was the 3rd plant to sprout, it has not had any noticeable growth in 3 days.



Angel:
Angel.jpg
Angel is my prize plant, she lost her shell during germing, She also only took 7ish hours in soil to sprout, she also is growing the fastest.


Honey:
Honey.jpg
Honey was the 2nd plant to sprout, She is also growing the 2nd fastest.



And thats it for right now, ill be back in a week with the first update, or sooner if any problems arise, Peace out.

-Polarboar.

(PS: sorry for the bad pics, i only have a cell phone)
 
Snow Crash

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Your lighting needs to be less than 2" from the plants. I suggest you pick up four 20w+ CFL bulbs, Daylight spectrum, and four of the medium sized clamp light reflectors. You can get this stuff at any hardware store for less than $20. It will make a HUGE difference in the future.

Also, your soil contains all kinds of sticks and bark and shit. Not a sign of good quality potting soil. Once they are the right age, if they make it that far, you're going to want to plant in a better soil with a good deal of aeration material like perlite. Until then be very aware of your watering habits. The soil should go from totally saturated, with run off, to totally dry before watering again. If you water a little bit every day you will suffocate your root system and the plant will die.

You can tell when to water by lifting up the plants. When the soil is dry it will feel extremely light in your hand. So then water it, and get a feel of it wet. Then go back and forth between the two. Doing this is going to be especially important in your specific soil of choice.

Keep an eye on your heat. Look for a replacement for the foil. Mylar, or reflective insulation will work. You're going to need to make sure the box is 100% light tight for the flowering period so you'll need something stronger and more reliable than the foil. Also think about how you're going to exchange the air in the box 24/7 when the lights are off to keep the humidity from rising and mold from growing, but without letting light into the box and stressing the plants during the dark period.

Best of luck to you in your first endeavor.
 
PolarBoar

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Snow Crash said:
Your lighting needs to be less than 2" from the plants. I suggest you pick up four 20w+ CFL bulbs, Daylight spectrum, and four of the medium sized clamp light reflectors. You can get this stuff at any hardware store for less than $20. It will make a HUGE difference in the future.

Also, your soil contains all kinds of sticks and bark and shit. Not a sign of good quality potting soil. Once they are the right age, if they make it that far, you're going to want to plant in a better soil with a good deal of aeration material like perlite. Until then be very aware of your watering habits. The soil should go from totally saturated, with run off, to totally dry before watering again. If you water a little bit every day you will suffocate your root system and the plant will die.

You can tell when to water by lifting up the plants. When the soil is dry it will feel extremely light in your hand. So then water it, and get a feel of it wet. Then go back and forth between the two. Doing this is going to be especially important in your specific soil of choice.

Keep an eye on your heat. Look for a replacement for the foil. Mylar, or reflective insulation will work. You're going to need to make sure the box is 100% light tight for the flowering period so you'll need something stronger and more reliable than the foil. Also think about how you're going to exchange the air in the box 24/7 when the lights are off to keep the humidity from rising and mold from growing, but without letting light into the box and stressing the plants during the dark period.

Best of luck to you in your first endeavor.
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Thanks for the tips bro, As for watering, every 2-3 days ill stick a clean finger in there to check if the soil is moist, I'm making sure not to overwater, treating them like a cactus, because that was something a friend who has grown for 5+ years said.

And for the CFL's, Ill be sure to pick them up whenever i can get the spare cash.

As for the air, I have that little fan ontop of the box, and if that isn't enough i can always cut a hole or two into the glass.

As for the soil, I know its shit, And im planning to find a local hydro shop and pick up some fox farms, or some decent miracle grow.

And for the reflector, i know there are more better alternatives then foil, but foil should be fine for me, since im growing with only CFLs/Flourescants, heating shouldent be to much of a problem.

As far as the box being light tight, i was planning on dropping a blanket over the box when i wanted to flower them, however i have no idea if this will work or not.
 
PolarBoar

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Whatsup guys. I've put the plants on 20/4, And i took Snow Crash's advice and bought 4 20W daytime CFL's and 4 clamps.
Angel is coming along really nicely, her second pair of leaves are starting to grow, as you can see in this pic.
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And other then that, i have no other new's, Be sure to comment and give me advice if im messing anything up, Or just to tell me how good im doing :D

-Polarboar
 
PolarBoar

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Ive gone ahead and decided to do the update a day earlier then i should, because i have nothing to do right now.

After a bit of reading up on 12/12 from seed i decided to go ahead and put them on 12/12, Due to space issues. Ive cover'd the fish tank in towel's to make it light proof, and if someone sees it i can just say i have sick fish in there :P

The fine folks over at the plant hospital have helped me find out that angel was suffering from heat stress, so shes recovering right now, and isn't looking her best.


On to the pics!

Angel:
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Trixie:
Trixie Week 2.jpg



Armageddon:
Armageddon week 2.jpg

Honey:
Honey week 2.jpg
 
Snow Crash

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I think 12/12 from seed is pretty ineffective. I recommend at least 2 weeks of 18/6. You harvest about the same time but twice the weight.
 
PolarBoar

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Snow Crash said:
I think 12/12 from seed is pretty ineffective. I recommend at least 2 weeks of 18/6. You harvest about the same time but twice the weight.
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Thanks for the tip bro, But i think ill stick to 12/12 I read an article earlier about all the benefits.
 
Snow Crash

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Benefits?

It still takes 4 weeks before the plant is sexually mature enough to begin flower.

So, instead of wasting that time on 12/12 you pump in an extra 6 hours of light for the first two weeks, then by the end of week 4 you are just as far into flowering as you would have been except the plant is larger now.

Instead of reading an article about it, I did it myself. 12/12 from seed is lame dude, I wouldn't try to mislead you.
 
PolarBoar

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Snow Crash said:
Benefits?

It still takes 4 weeks before the plant is sexually mature enough to begin flower.

So, instead of wasting that time on 12/12 you pump in an extra 6 hours of light for the first two weeks, then by the end of week 4 you are just as far into flowering as you would have been except the plant is larger now.

Instead of reading an article about it, I did it myself. 12/12 from seed is lame dude, I wouldn't try to mislead you.
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You make a good point, Ill put them on 18/6 for 2 more weeks. Also Dont expect any of the other plants besides angel to be in this journal for much longer, My cousin Might be hooking me up with a purple haze clone, And i just purchased a feminized shark attack seed and got a free UFO #1 white widow seed with it, when they get here i plan on germing them, and if they both germ you can say your farewells to trixie and honey, and armageddon is getting replaced with that purple haze, since i've personally gave up hope of her growing.

I should wait for these plants to show there sex before i do anything since you never know if angel will turn out a man, If it does ill just turn my closet into a sexing room, and cross it with UFO, shark attack or purple haze, i'd personally like to see what differences there are with a regular purple haze, and a purple haze x bagseed hybrid, or something like that.

Anyways you've been as big of help as always snow crash, I hope youll be here to mentor me for the rest of this adventure.
 
Snow Crash

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I'm around for sure.

Careful about clones, you need to be CERTAIN you aren't introducing any form of bug or disease. Mites are all too common in clone exchanges.

Building a proper sexing room is going to be an issue. I think you'd probably just be fine letting everything grow and flower together to get the hang of things and give yourself a quality seed stock. From then on you can just grow your vigorous F1 personal seed stock.

It also takes some of the pressure off of your first grow when you're just going for seeds. Just getting a feel for the plants and a little experience is what is important. Save some money, get a tent and a an HID light, and do it right in 4 months with the fresh seeds. That's my advice.
 
PolarBoar

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Snow Crash said:
I'm around for sure.

Careful about clones, you need to be CERTAIN you aren't introducing any form of bug or disease. Mites are all too common in clone exchanges.

Building a proper sexing room is going to be an issue. I think you'd probably just be fine letting everything grow and flower together to get the hang of things and give yourself a quality seed stock. From then on you can just grow your vigorous F1 personal seed stock.

It also takes some of the pressure off of your first grow when you're just going for seeds. Just getting a feel for the plants and a little experience is what is important. Save some money, get a tent and a an HID light, and do it right in 4 months with the fresh seeds. That's my advice.
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Good advice as always snow crash, I do plan on getting a tent and HID light, however getting the cash for it could be an issue(Currently Unemployed, Living with parents,) There cool with me growing though, since we live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere with 60 miles of private property.

As for just letting these all grow and make seeds, I want to get some bud hopefully off these plants, Enough to last me till my next batch of plants get done, And i think Im just gonna scratch the sexing room idea untill i have enough experience/cash to do it right. (Ill just clone any of the females then clone that clone, etc, until the genetics have become so much rubbish that it Isn't worth cloning it again)

For the mites, the guy im getting the clone from grows for personal use and for friends. He dosen't grow commercially, so i think he shouldent have any pest problems, If he does im sure there's a way to get rid of them, (Plus, Coulden't i examine the clone for bugs before I put it in with my other plants?)
 
PolarBoar

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Whatsup! the plants are offically 3 weeks old now, And there coming along really nicely, I still havent gotten those seeds, However on monday im running to homedepo to get some good soil for them if they get here :D Don't have much else to say so... on to the pics!


Trixie week 3
Trixie week 3.jpg

Trixie has actually started growing at an awesome pace. I also noticed that the top of her stem and the start of her branches have a purple tint (Don't know if its gene's or if its a deffiency, since shes in crappy 5$ wal-mart soil)

Armageddon week 3
Armageddon week 3.jpg
Believe it or not, shes actually starting to grow, may be at a snails pace, but she is (man, im gonna feel bad if i do yank her)


Honey week 3
Honey week 3.jpg

Not much to say about this one, she lost her place as the 2nd fastest grower (trixie took over) Other then that shes fine, she is stretching a little, but ill just fill up more of the pot with soil when i get the good kind.

And now on to my baby.

Angel week 3

Angel Week 3.jpg

Shes still growing the fastest, shes even starting to grow branches on her branches, im amazed shes still in 1st since shes suffered heat stress and overwatering. (She drooped after i gave her water about 2 hours ago, she made a full recovery though)


And thats it for todays update, Update 4 will be out next saturday.


-One love.
 
Mudslide9791

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PolarBoar said:
Thanks for the tips bro, As for watering, every 2-3 days ill stick a clean finger in there to check if the soil is moist, I'm making sure not to overwater, treating them like a cactus, because that was something a friend who has grown for 5+ years said.

And for the CFL's, Ill be sure to pick them up whenever i can get the spare cash.

As for the air, I have that little fan ontop of the box, and if that isn't enough i can always cut a hole or two into the glass.

As for the soil, I know its shit, And im planning to find a local hydro shop and pick up some fox farms, or some decent miracle grow.

And for the reflector, i know there are more better alternatives then foil, but foil should be fine for me, since im growing with only CFLs/Flourescants, heating shouldent be to much of a problem.

As far as the box being light tight, i was planning on dropping a blanket over the box when i wanted to flower them, however i have no idea if this will work or not.
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Better to use a dirty finger. Preferably the finger you pick your nose with and scratch your butt with. The stinkier the better........... =)

(I'm drunk)
 
PolarBoar

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Mudslide9791 said:
Better to use a dirty finger. Preferably the finger you pick your nose with and scratch your butt with. The stinkier the better........... =)

(I'm drunk)
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Why be drunk, when you can be blazed? :P And i have to use a clean finger, i smoke cigs, and the chemicals and shit gets all over my hands, and that'll kill the plants xD
 
PolarBoar

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My alarm went off at 11, that means it was time to end the dark cycle and turn on the lights, I peered into the tank to see how my baby's were doing, and i almost feinted from the sheer amazingness when i saw that angel grew ATLEAST 2 inches, probably more. It might be common to see that for you guys, but for me i usually only see 1/2inch growth from angel when i turn on the lights, maybe 1/4-1/8 for the rest of the plants.
 
PolarBoar

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Just got Miracle grow moisture control, however its pretty wet from being in the snow, And cold. REALLY COLD. (Can gnats survive in cold soil?) im pretty sure this bag has been sitting there for awhile. but its the last bag they had, and the only decent stuff they had (By that i mean, people have posted success stories/ pictures of amazing plants with it) So im gonna give it a couple of days to warm up and dry out before i do anything with it. (FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- its moisture control, this is gonna take forever :C) But i have a question for the expert growers, Should i transplant my plants into it? or should i just fill up the rest of there pots with it? (PS: I fucking suck at transplanting, did it with angel, she ended uo getting heat stress right after)

Also, My seeds just shipped out of the UK, today is good day.
 
Snow Crash

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lol...

Good luck with that moisture control soil. You're on your own now homie.

I would honestly place money on a failure of a grow that includes that stuff.

Cut it with perlite. If you don't you're going to drown your plants. IMO that is hands down the lowest quality, worst possible, potting soil for cannabis. Cannabis is a flower, not a vegetable. The organic mix, or the Black Gold, would have been so much wiser a choice I don't even know where to begin.

-sub'd
 
PolarBoar

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Snow Crash said:
lol...

Good luck with that moisture control soil. You're on your own now homie.

I would honestly place money on a failure of a grow that includes that stuff.

Cut it with perlite. If you don't you're going to drown your plants. IMO that is hands down the lowest quality, worst possible, potting soil for cannabis. Cannabis is a flower, not a vegetable. The organic mix, or the Black Gold, would have been so much wiser a choice I don't even know where to begin.

-sub'd
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Sad to hear that bro, But as most people say, you either swear by MG, or swear at it. Different tokes for different stokes i guess.
 
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